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أين أخطأ الجنرال عون

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أين أخطأ الجنرال عون ؟
عجيب أمر بعض السياسيين اللبنانيين خصوصاً اقطاب الرابع عشر من آذار، وغريبة هي مواقفهم وتصرفاتهم إذا كان الأمر يتعلق بالعماد ميشال عون وسياسته وسياسة تكتله وتياره. فهم عند المنعطفات الحساسة يختلفون على كل شيء ولا يكاد بجمعهم سوى العداء لهذا الرجل. ان هذه التصرفات وهذه المواقف العدائية لا تنم سوى عن كيدية سياسية، او حقد اعمى او تجاهل مقصود وغير موضوعي لما يمثله العماد ميشال عون وتكتله وتياره ومؤيدوه في الحياة السياسية اللبنانية. قامت القيامة ولم تقعد حتى الآن منذ بدأ الجنرال عون زيارته لايران وحتى عودته منها (ومن المؤكد ستتواصل بعد حين بعدما اعلن الجنرال انه ينوي زيارة سوريا في وقت لاحق). لم يجد النائب وليد جنبلاط وصفاً يليق بزيارة العماد ميشال عون لطهران سوى انها زيارة جنرال الهزائم والانكسارات. ألم تلب يا سعادة النائب قبل سنوات قليلة دعوة الى ايران وزرتها؟ هل ستمتنع عن تلبية مثل هذه الدعوة اذا وجهت اليك اليوم من السفارة الايرانية؟ هل تعرّض لك الجنرال عون بسبب زياراتك العديدة أنت واركان اللقاء الديموقراطي وتكتل 14 آذار لاميركا وفرنسا والسعودية وعمان والقاهرة؟ لماذا ما هو مسموح لكم ممنوع على غيركم خصوصاً على العماد ميشال عون؟ ثم أخيراً أكان يجب على العماد عون ان يكذب على السوريين طيلة خمسة عشر عاماً كي يكون جنرالاً للانتصارات؟
اما الرئيس الشيخ أمين الجميل الذي استقبل وفداً اكاديمياً ايرانياً، اشاد أمامه بالجمهورية الاسلامية الايرانية وضرورة الانفتاح على حضارتها، فانتقد العماد عون ولم يجد ما يقلل به من قيمة تلك الزيارة إلاّ القول ان لآل الجميل أقارب في إيران (الاسلامية)، يقيمون فيها قبل ولادة العماد عون! وعندما سئل اذا كان يلبي دعوة لزيارة أيران اجاب انه يلبيها بكل سرور!
وهذا ما استدعى تعليقاً من الدكتور سمير جعجع عندما قيل له ان الرئيس الجميل أعلن انه يلبي دعوة لزيارة طهران فلماذا تنتقدون الجنرال عون؟
أجابهم حرفياً: ان زيارة الرئيس الجميل لايران لا تؤثر في الوضح المسيحي كما تؤثر زيارة العماد عون، لذلك فإن زيارته مرفوضة.
فيا حضرة الدكتور سمير جعجع: أنت ذهبت الى القاهرة في زيارة مبرمجة، فهل انتقد الجنرال عون او احد اعضاء كتلته هذه الزيارة كما فعلت وفعل المحيطون بك؟ ثم طالما انكم مع حلفائكم من "مسيحيي 14 آذار" تمثلون 80% من مسيحيي لبنان، وانه كان في استطاعة "القوات اللبنانية" خلال احداث 7 أيار ان تقضي على "التيار الوطني الحر" خلال ساعتين (حسب ما نقلته صحيفة "السفير" عن زيارتكم للقاهرة ومحادثاتكم مع المسؤولين المصريين) فلماذا تعطون الجنرال عون وزيارته لايران هذه الاهمية؟
أخيراً أيها السادة الذين ينتقدون زيارة ايران لأنها ادخلت لبنان ومسيحييه في تجاذبات المحاور التي هو في غنى عنها، هل وجهت السعودية او القاهرة او عمان دعوة الى العماد عون لزيارتها وامتنع عن تلبيتها؟ ولماذا امتنع السفير السعودي في ايران وحده دون سائر السفراء عن حضور العشاء الذي اقامه السفير اللبناني على شرف العماد عون؟
اليوم كان السفير الايراني في زيارة للشيخ سعد الدين الحريري واذا صحت ما تناقلته الانباء انه وجه اليه دعوة لزيارة ايران وقرر الشيخ سعد ان يلبي هذه الدعوة، فهل سيجد من ينتقده على هذه الزيارة؟ ام انه ما هو حلال له محرم على العماد ميشال عون؟
منذ اشهر، حذر العماد عون من تدهور الوضع في الشمال، وخصوصاً في طرابلس، ونبه الى تنامي خطر الأصوليات الاسلامية التي لا تعترف بالكيان اللبناني. ثار الجميع على هذا الكلام بدءاً بنواب طرابلس وحتى "مسيحيي 14 آذار" وحلفائهم في "تيار المستقبل" واتهموا الجنرال عون اتهامات كثيرة وخطيرة: تارة انه يمهد الطريق للتدخل السوري في شمال لبنان، وتارة انه على تنسيق مع من يريدون اثارة المشاكل والفتن في طرابلس والشمال، واتهم من الكثيرين، نواب وزعماء زواريب، انه ضد الطائفة السنية، وقد ظهر احدهم على شاشة التلفزيون يتوعد ويهدد، وأخيراً انه جعل من طرابلس (قندهار) لبنان. بعد فترة اثبتت الوقائع ما حذّر منه، اندلعت المعارك الطائفية والمذهبية، وحصلت عملية تفجير واعتداءات على آليات الجيش أوقعت الكثير من الضحايا، استعار الخطاب المذهبي وظهر التشدد الاصولي الى العلن ووصل الوضع برمته الى شفير الهاوية مما استدعى تحركاً عاجلاً من اركان الدولة ومن زعيم "المستقبل" الشيخ سعد الدين الحريري لتهدئة الأمور. استنفرت الدولة كل اجهزتها محذرة وداعية الى القضاء على ظاهرة التشدد والارهاب. حتى ان تقارير أمين عام الأمم المتحدة بان كي مون وتيري رود لارسن والخارجية الفرنسية بالاضافة طبعاً الى التحذيرات الصادرة من السلطات السورية، وآخر التقارير هو الصادر عن مساعد وزيرة الخارجية الاميركية (نيغروبونتي)، كلها تشير الى تنامي ظاهرة الاصولية الاسلامية المتشددة وخطرها على لبنان وعلى الجوار وعلى العالم. فأين أخطأ الجنرال؟ وهل كان يرمي الكلام جزافاً عندما نبه الى الخطر الآتي قبل حصوله بأشهر؟ فهل من يعترف بأنه اساء الى العماد ميشال عون وتكون لديه شجاعة الاعتذار عن الكلام المسيء؟ لماذا كانت تحذيرات الجنرال في ذلك الوقت مفردة ومحرمة أما التحذيرات التي نسمعها اليوم فهي صادقة ومحللة وتهدف الى المحافظة على لبنان وسلمه الأهلي؟
ولا يقتصر أمن هذه الحملات الظالمة على رجال السياسة بل يشارك فيها بعض أهل الصحافة والادب. يا جماعة: تحلوا بالموضوعية والمنطق، وليكن انتقادكم في موضعه، لأن هذه الاساليب في الهجوم العشوائي الجارح تنعكس سلباً عليكم، ولا تؤثر في شعبية الجنرال عون، بل تزيده مصداقية شئتم ام أبيتم، خصوصاً انكم لا تواجهون مواقفه وانتقاداته وتحركاته بالحجة المقنعة، بل بالشتائم.

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  • Proud Republican

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    alliance with hizballah!!! i presume many many many Christian's followers do not support him anymore because of that! many many many Christians who voted for him where dissapointed with this move. Me being part of them. but of course still do respect this great person.
     
    Lebanesegirl

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    alliance with hizballah!!! i presume many many many Christian's followers do not support him anymore because of that! many many many Christians who voted for him where dissapointed with this move. Me being part of them. but of course still do respect this great person.
    and ur source is? show me the many many many people ur talking about!
     
    LebReporter

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    Well i guess he want Aoun to stay alone and fighting for his cause without any allies so he can be avoided and ignored always like they did in 1st gouverment.

    He dont like G Aoun to be strong and realy add to the lebanese politics christian veiw i think he is used to have someone pay him to talk and to do the parrot dance.

    Proud Republican or Proud Parrot?
     
    Proud Republican

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    and ur source is? show me the many many many people ur talking about!
    example of us in matn. our family who numbers around 50 voted Aoun without any exeption. 2009, he wont get our vote. nor anyone will get our vote I presume. unless a good independent shows up!!! 50 for broumana is pretty much. as for my source, it is my entourage who did vote GMA and wont vote for him in 2009, part will vote for the loyalist or independant as Murr, and other wont vote at all. I beleive many many many are in my case.
     
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    alliance with hizballah!!! i presume many many many Christian's followers do not support him anymore because of that! many many many Christians who voted for him where dissapointed with this move. Me being part of them. but of course still do respect this great person.
    The Mou with Hezballah wafaret 3al balad harb ahliyeh.... don't you think Lebanon deserves such MOU.

    The Mou with Hazballah gave us a new election law ( or it's from the reasons) now teh christians can have 44 Mps instead of 19 or 20 in ghazi kanaan Law.... don't you think the christians deserve a better law and also better then the current one.....???

    there are also many reasons but for me these 2 are the most inportant..... Reagrdless if i agree with Hizb allah or not in some points and that is very normal...
     
    Proud Republican

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    Well i guess he want Aoun to stay alone and fighting for his cause without any allies so he can be avoided and ignored always like they did in 1st gouverment.

    He dont like G Aoun to be strong and realy add to the lebanese politics christian veiw i think he is used to have someone pay him to talk and to do the parrot dance.

    Proud Republican or Proud Parrot?
    I do not need money lebReporter, no one pays me. Money i do have a lot! you can put it that way, My family use to give cash to FPM Paris while we were living there. I do like GMA to be strong, but not in the way he is acting today. I would love to see GMA stonger ONLY with the program built and planned in Paris.
     
    Proud Republican

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    The Mou with Hezballah wafaret 3al balad harb ahliyeh.... don't you think Lebanon deserves such MOU.

    The Mou with Hazballah gave us a new election law ( or it's from the reasons) now teh christians can have 44 Mps instead of 19 or 20 in ghazi kanaan Law.... don't you think the christians deserve a better law and also better then the current one.....???

    there are also many reasons but for me these 2 are the most inportant..... Reagrdless if i agree with Hizb allah or not in some points and that is very normal...
    I totally respect your opinion!! Now my opinion is: If Aoun would have fought alone, without any Hizballah alliance, trust me he would have gathered the whole Christians behind him. Dont you remenber when he came back from France, you had every single Lebanese Christians welcoming him. May 2009 would have been a turning point in the lebanese history!!!
     
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    Bravefan

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    I totally respect your opinion!! Now my opinion is: If Aoun would have fought alone, without any Hizballah alliance, trust me he would have gathered the whole Christians behind him. Dont you remenber when he came back from France, you had every single Lebanese Christians welcoming him. May 2009 would have been a turning point in the lebanese history!!!
    That is the point that must not happen never....

    Aoun alone, Hizb Alone , X alone .... Y alone.....

    then u will finsih " kantounet " ........and kell wahad 3am bikhabet bel teneh.....

    if there was no MOU the 2006, the war kenet thawalet la harb ahliyeh.....

    IF general oun lost some popularity from that Mou.... it's ok Lebanon deserves wahad ydaheh.....
     
    GMA forever

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    I totally respect your opinion!! Now my opinion is: If Aoun would have fought alone, without any Hizballah alliance, trust me he would have gathered the whole Christians behind him. Dont you remenber when he came back from France, you had every single Lebanese Christians welcoming him. May 2009 would have been a turning point in the lebanese history!!!
    Proud Republican, I respect your opinion a lot, but I think you are jumping from one point to the other disregarding many facts.

    When GMA came back from france, it was May 2005, when he made the MoU, it was almost 1 year later, namely February 2006. It probably slipped your mind that during this period, the Hariri Chrisitians politicians along with the Batrak started already their media war against GMA & FPM, and whoever from the Christian population that wanted to leave left. The only thing that the MoU did in this field, is give more direct ammunition for the hariri Christians in order to attack us.

    Now my personal opinion, and judging by how crucial and well benefiting the MoU was for preserving our country Lebanon and preventing a civil war, I don't mind if we gave more ammunition for our opponents, but at least we saved the country yet again.

    In the end, the ones who wanted to leave would have left for any other reason if it wasn't for the MoU, and the ones who wanted to stay would have stayed anyway.
     
    coralie

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    I do not need money lebReporter, no one pays me. Money i do have a lot! you can put it that way, My family use to give cash to FPM Paris while we were living there. I do like GMA to be strong, but not in the way he is acting today. I would love to see GMA stonger ONLY with the program built and planned in Paris.
    if you and your 50 familly members were unable to understand the positif sides on wich GMA worked for the past 3 years, if you are unable to read and understand the MoU and what was its positif outcomes this is realy a pity for people as you said use to endorse GMA's politics . of course you and your familly are free to vote for whoever you want but let me tell you this, this time mistakes will cause you to loose what ever is left in this country . if the past did not teach you anything and the past 3 years of hard work of FPM did not show you the righteous and wise decisions and their outcomes on the long run and on national scale i realy dont think you diserve any better from what you always got and will get in the future = a country drawning in corruption , feodalism , bankruptcy , and emigration .
     
    hiptanaka

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    example of us in matn. our family who numbers around 50 voted Aoun without any exeption. 2009, he wont get our vote. nor anyone will get our vote I presume. unless a good independent shows up!!! 50 for broumana is pretty much. as for my source, it is my entourage who did vote GMA and wont vote for him in 2009, part will vote for the loyalist or independant as Murr, and other wont vote at all. I beleive many many many are in my case.
    oh ok i get it. so since is GMA is "allied" with Hezbollah, he'll lose your families votes, and instead they'll go to Feb 14 Christians who are allied with FM and their loving thugs in the north. makes sense

    that being said, im glad GMA is the way he is. he'll do what he needs to do without giving a dam n about losing "supporters" like you. there was a clear risk of losing Christian support (i dont know if it was many many many) when he signed the MOU with Hezbollah in 2006, but he didnt shed any tears for those who jumped ship. its what seperates him from the rest of the leaders in lebanon - sticking to his vision and principles, come rain or come shine. even if some can't appreciate it.
     
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    alliance with hizballah!!! i presume many many many Christian's followers do not support him anymore because of that! many many many Christians who voted for him where dissapointed with this move. Me being part of them. but of course still do respect this great person.

    put a MANY BA3ED.. mnefham!

    how "MANY" means to u?! are they the same "MANY" that zalzalo el ared bi mouzaharet dod el houkoume after HA alliance ?!

    wake up.. don't count on that! we have been asking for early elections since middle 2005 !!
    2009 will rpoove the big success of GMA's choices!
     
    GloryforLebanon

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    I totally respect your opinion!! Now my opinion is: If Aoun would have fought alone, without any Hizballah alliance, trust me he would have gathered the whole Christians behind him. Dont you remenber when he came back from France, you had every single Lebanese Christians welcoming him. May 2009 would have been a turning point in the lebanese history!!!
    Paul Dundes Wolfowitz' (your avatar picture,he was the major architect of President Bush's Iraq policy) miscalculations lead to catastrophic results in Iraq...

    Thank God we've got a political figure with a very advanced political sight such as GMA.
     
    elias-aj

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    example of us in matn. our family who numbers around 50 voted Aoun without any exeption. 2009, he wont get our vote. nor anyone will get our vote I presume. unless a good independent shows up!!! 50 for broumana is pretty much. as for my source, it is my entourage who did vote GMA and wont vote for him in 2009, part will vote for the loyalist or independant as Murr, and other wont vote at all. I beleive many many many are in my case.
    Proud Republican,

    I'd say, give him at least the chance to try to implement the FPM's program. And if he fails, then don't vote for him in 2013. Let's judge our politicians upon their acts and not upon their intentions.
     
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    I totally respect your opinion!! Now my opinion is: If Aoun would have fought alone, without any Hizballah alliance, trust me he would have gathered the whole Christians behind him. Dont you remenber when he came back from France, you had every single Lebanese Christians welcoming him. May 2009 would have been a turning point in the lebanese history!!!
    GMA didn't took HA from 14 ners! they throw HA in order to finish him! WE WILL NEVER EVER ALLY WITH ANYONE TO FINISH ANY LEBANESE! even if it's about finishing our political LEBANESE enemies ! NEVER!!!

    CHRISTIANS allied ?!! before or after geagea's release from prison?!
    my dear friend : GEAGEA WOULD ALLY WITH THE DEVIL but never with GMA
     
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    I do not need money lebReporter, no one pays me. Money i do have a lot! you can put it that way, My family use to give cash to FPM Paris while we were living there. I do like GMA to be strong, but not in the way he is acting today. I would love to see GMA stonger ONLY with the program built and planned in Paris.
    نحن نعطي حياتنا لقضيتنا وليس فقط مالنا ولم ولن نطلب مالا من أحد
    كل مساعدات التيار هي تطوعية لم يطلب منك أحد أو يستجدي عائلتك للمال




    example of us in matn. our family who numbers around 50 voted Aoun without any exeption. 2009, he wont get our vote. nor anyone will get our vote I presume. unless a good independent shows up!!! 50 for broumana is pretty much. as for my source, it is my entourage who did vote GMA and wont vote for him in 2009, part will vote for the loyalist or independant as Murr, and other wont vote at all. I beleive many many many are in my case.
    IT seems u have the MANY complex !!

    i m sorry but i have big doubt about your talking in here ! 50 voted for GMA and now NO! are you relative with MICHEAL HAYEK ?!!
     
    Proud Republican

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    That is the point that must not happen never....

    Aoun alone, Hizb Alone , X alone .... Y alone.....

    then u will finsih " kantounet " ........and kell wahad 3am bikhabet bel teneh.....

    if there was no MOU the 2006, the war kenet thawalet la harb ahliyeh.....

    IF general oun lost some popularity from that Mou.... it's ok Lebanon deserves wahad ydaheh.....
    I still beleive Aoun alone would have gather the whole Christians community.. minus the brainwashed followers of other Christians party which represent nearly nothing.

    Yalla lets wait for the next election (if they happen, and i hope so). At least we will have a clearer view of what Lebaneses want. As for me I will be watching and my vote wont go anywhere this time... Unless a good and clever independent present himself in Matn.
     
    coralie

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    I still beleive Aoun alone would have gather the whole Christians community.. minus the brainwashed followers of other Christians party which represent nearly nothing.

    Yalla lets wait for the next election (if they happen, and i hope so). At least we will have a clearer view of what Lebaneses want. As for me I will be watching and my vote wont go anywhere this time... Unless a good and clever independent present himself in Matn.
    did you or did you not see what happened in 2005 ? every one was against GMA and FPM they all allied to distroy him yet alone he was able to raise a big parlementary block . you see your familly i see more then one familly i see many many many of those you called "brainwashed" making a miraculous awakening . i too live and vote in matn and i can assure you you are the first person to say you changed your mind and taking this grey position and to be in a state of abeyance until "clever independent present himself" ...around me people are more then ever pro FPM .

    against all odds and with all the filthy propaganda GMA did wonders and achieved a lot , it is realy sad to see how people simply driven by their blocked ideas react !
    good luck to you and hope you wont regret your grey attitude later , for your own good as well as for the good of our future generations .
     
    Youchka

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    I still beleive Aoun alone would have gather the whole Christians community.. minus the brainwashed followers of other Christians party which represent nearly nothing.

    Yalla lets wait for the next election (if they happen, and i hope so). At least we will have a clearer view of what Lebaneses want. As for me I will be watching and my vote wont go anywhere this time... Unless a good and clever independent present himself in Matn.
    Hey be happy, the president will have the so-called independents to vote for, yours will be Michel Murr, enjoy!
     
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