تقارب بين القوات والمردة تحت رعاية كنسية: ما هي توقعاتكم؟

#1
Why do I have the suspicion that the LF/Marada meeting is a maneuver to corner PMA and GB?
I am with any partnership/union/alliance/understanding among christian parties, especially among those that were very distant politically due to the war.

However, I sense something elusive in the coming meeting, probably because they share one common adversary: FPM.
 
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    #4
    We are happy as Maronites that our brothers fighting and killing each other's, in time to find a common solution now.
    But I ask myself a question why why they did harm our body and existence all that time. The innocent people died coz of both, our lives would be better without massacres of Ehden, Safra, ashrafieh against HK, Adma against Michel Aoun. One denominator common is 7a 7a 7a Kim".
    Why the timing is now?.?
    Honestly I am Maronite originally from zghorta but my ancestors left since longtime. I am happy for that coz I do't have any admiration for North feudals especially Franjieh. I am chehabiste.
    My opinion it was toooooooo late to reconciliation between butchers Frankish and 7a 7a 7a Kim.
    May God damn them both a large part of our internal blood is on their hands.
    Allah ys3idoun wa yakhidoun la 3indo la nirtaa7.
     

    Omeros

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    #5
    Why do I have the suspicion that the LF/Marada meeting is a maneuver to corner PMA and GB?
    I am with any partnership/union/alliance/understanding among christian parties, especially among those that were very distant politically due to the war.

    However, I sense something elusive in the coming meeting, probably because they share one common adversary: FPM.
    2yemon آل خازن
     

    Aoune32!

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    #6
    Why do I have the suspicion that the LF/Marada meeting is a maneuver to corner PMA and GB?
    I am with any partnership/union/alliance/understanding among christian parties, especially among those that were very distant politically due to the war.

    However, I sense something elusive in the coming meeting, probably because they share one common adversary: FPM.
    They want to form an alliance against Gebran in the future. :) It is all due to him not becoming President.
    Christians are always stupid.
     

    Omeros

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    #9
    are you drunk? what does Khazen got to do with LF and Franjiyeh?
    im awake :p

    khazen family as a whole have supporters for :

    - LF
    - Kataeb
    - franjye is a friend ,

    he allied with kataeb now he need to affiliate with LF through franjye , to cover politically the whole family and get rid of the idea saying that : Y +z dod ekta3 dynasties
     

    Aoune32!

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    #11
    im awake :p

    khazen family as a whole have supporters for :

    - LF
    - Kataeb
    - franjye is a friend ,

    he allied with kataeb now he need to affiliate with LF through franjye , to cover politically the whole family and get rid of the idea saying that : Y +z dod ekta3 dynasties
    Bro,
    Franjiyeh and Geagea are allying or coming to some sort of communication/dialogue because they want to block another 6 years of FPM in the reign after PMA. It is their right kameina to do so. Just the same way that Kataeb are allying with FPM.
     

    Omeros

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    #12
    Bro,
    Franjiyeh and Geagea are allying or coming to some sort of communication/dialogue because they want to block another 6 years of FPM in the reign after PMA. It is their right kameina to do so. Just the same way that Kataeb are allying with FPM.
    that what im saying in other way
     

    Aoune32!

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    #13
    Samir Geagea will try use Franjiyeh to get HA to vote for Geagea in the Presidential elections. If it doesn't work Franjiyeh will be elected.
     
    #14
    Samir Geagea will try use Franjiyeh to get HA to vote for Geagea in the Presidential elections. If it doesn't work Franjiyeh will be elected.
    I don t think HA and shiaa in general will vote for geagea, at least in the foreseeable future.
    what could happen, is that geagea goes for franjieh who already has shiaa support, in exchange for very important ministries.
    But it is too early to talk about presidential elections.
     

    La Blague

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    #15
    im awake :p

    khazen family as a whole have supporters for :

    - LF
    - Kataeb
    - franjye is a friend ,

    he allied with kataeb now he need to affiliate with LF through franjye , to cover politically the whole family and get rid of the idea saying that : Y +z dod ekta3 dynasties
    Marada wants to ally with LF to say in 4 years look I have almost 45 % of christians with me
    Geagea wants to ally with marada to get ministries later and to piss Gebran

    Khazen is just a place to meet, as ordered by his boss/friend and frangieh's boss/friend (GC).

    Geagea is happy to do it in Keserwan to give it a national dimension in the maronite capital.

    And Sami is lost... join the big anti Gebran alliance or join Gebran ?
    My guess is he will gain more by allying with Gebran
     
    #16
    Marada wants to ally with LF to say in 4 years look I have almost 45 % of christians with me
    Geagea wants to ally with marada to get ministries later and to piss Gebran

    Khazen is just a place to meet, as ordered by his boss/friend and frangieh's boss/friend (GC).

    Geagea is happy to do it in Keserwan to give it a national dimension in the maronite capital.

    And Sami is lost... join the big anti Gebran alliance or join Gebran ?
    My guess is he will gain more by allying with Gebran
    GB should be smart enough to stay clear from samy gemayel, or else he would lose his armenian allies
     

    Aoune32!

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    #17
    Marada wants to ally with LF to say in 4 years look I have almost 45 % of christians with me
    Geagea wants to ally with marada to get ministries later and to piss Gebran

    Khazen is just a place to meet, as ordered by his boss/friend and frangieh's boss/friend (GC).

    Geagea is happy to do it in Keserwan to give it a national dimension in the maronite capital.

    And Sami is lost... join the big anti Gebran alliance or join Gebran ?
    My guess is he will gain more by allying with Gebran
    Well man thats the name of the game. FPM didnt give or wont give anything to LF. It is LF right to do as they please especially that thr North results didnt go as they wished.
     

    HannaTheCrusader

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    #18
    good why not

    its just funny that marada who were tryng to make such an agreement wit ouwat for 4 years
    abused tayyar when they did it

    and still went with it

    i am all for clearing the main issues between christians

    sf is doing it, thinking la7 yen3ass al tayyar
    while in reality, tayyar is all for such an agreement

    if anything, sf , donkey bnvcahe la7 yeb3ass 7alo only
    he will lose a major rally cry for his own voters
     
    #19
    good why not

    its just funny that marada who were tryng to make such an agreement wit ouwat for 4 years
    abused tayyar when they did it

    and still went with it

    i am all for clearing the main issues between christians

    sf is doing it, thinking la7 yen3ass al tayyar
    while in reality, tayyar is all for such an agreement

    if anything, sf , donkey bnvcahe la7 yeb3ass 7alo only
    he will lose a major rally cry for his own voters
    where is @Muki to say : "Tasleeb"
     
    #20
    The best move by FPM as a consequence of the LF/ Marada understanding, assuming it succeeds would be:

    1) open with Murr: this one is a mighty bastard that can be very resourceful. Besides, he would gladly side with GB-led FPM. Murr resents animosity towards frangieh and bou jamra , the latter is no longer fpm, but not towards GB. Plus, armenians would greet the new understanding between FPM and Murr and reinforce their alliance with fpm,given that FPM stay away from Kataeb

    2) open with SSNP everywhere in Lebanon. Frangieh, by adventurimg in a love story with Geagea will lose completely his alliance with SSNP, baathist party and other leftist parties.

    3) open with Karami, who was a traditional sunni ally to frangieh. Frangieh will lose him forever. that is a golden opportunity cor FPM to have a foot in Tripoli. Who knows, maybe fpm and karameh would side during th nxt elections.

    4) MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL: STAY AWAY FROM THE POISON NAMED KATAEB !
    It is very temtptimg to open ties with Kataeb as a knee-jerk reaction to theLf/marada understanding, since they are (still) present in some regions, but not for long.
    Opening ties with Kataeb would send all the above-mentioned potential allies away.
    Samy is leading his party to oblivion. In few years we will talk a out kataeb as we talk about ahrara and ketleh wataniyeh: a party that is gone to history
     
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