لولا الجنرال عون لما بقية المقاومة و سلاحها

Resistancefrom89

Resistancefrom89

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Listening to Mussawi claiming that it was Hezb and their arm that brought GMA into power, and although this claims is invalid and ridiculous (where were they in 2008?), it is fair then to say that

لولا الجنرال عون لما بقية المقاومة و سلاحها
 
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  • Skunk

    Skunk

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    agreed
    However, no General Aoun or anyone can save 'Al Moqawama' from what's coming next this time.
     
    Rachel Corrie

    Rachel Corrie

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    In all sincerity:

    You can say if not for General Aoun, there would not have been Lebanon as we know it. And likewise, we can say if not for the resistance, Aoun won't have been president.

    But to say if not for Aoun the resistance won't have remain is wrong. The resistance was long before Aoun returned. The resistance liberated the south long before Aoun returned.

    Yes, Aoun gave moral support and political cover to the resistance. But this resistance can survive without Aoun. The question is could Aoun have survived without the resistance? The resistance could have survived without Aoun because it has what it takes to survive militarily on the ground. Without the support of Aoun, Lebanon, not the resistance would have not survived as we know it. Even if the resistance ends up triumphing and surviving, there would have been more wars and battles against the resistance and Lebanon could have faced much turmoil and upheavals and bloodshed and destruction. Aoun rescued his country and his people from the ploys of internal rogues and foreign enemies. And unfortunately, Aoun is trusting and befriending these internal rogues today.

    Had those rogues succeeded, we could have had a Yemeni situation, albeit a less catastrophic one and the resistance would have ended up winning and liquidating all the rogues and their supporters. The resistance has a big heart and embraced everyone even after repeated backstabbing. And Aoun also played a part in ensuring there is internal peace. For as long as the Shia and the Christians (the largest portion of them) are united and working together, Lebanon will survive and emerge stronger. The moment the Shia and the Christians disagree and that disagreement becomes public, Lebanon will be in danger.
     
    Rachel Corrie

    Rachel Corrie

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    agreed
    However, no General Aoun or anyone can save 'Al Moqawama' from what's coming next this time.
    Your wishes and fantasies are not reality.

    So better shut up or tell us what you know or foresee. And let us if you're a soothsayer or a wizard.

    What has past is way worse than anything that can come next.
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

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    In all sincerity:

    You can say if not for General Aoun, there would not have been Lebanon as we know it. And likewise, we can say if not for the resistance, Aoun won't have been president.

    But to say if not for Aoun the resistance won't have remain is wrong. The resistance was long before Aoun returned. The resistance liberated the south long before Aoun returned.

    Yes, Aoun gave moral support and political cover to the resistance. But this resistance can survive without Aoun. The question is could Aoun have survived without the resistance? The resistance could have survived without Aoun because it has what it takes to survive militarily on the ground. Without the support of Aoun, Lebanon, not the resistance would have not survived as we know it. Even if the resistance ends up triumphing and surviving, there would have been more wars and battles against the resistance and Lebanon could have faced much turmoil and upheavals and bloodshed and destruction. Aoun rescued his country and his people from the ploys of internal rogues and foreign enemies. And unfortunately, Aoun is trusting and befriending these internal rogues today.

    Had those rogues succeeded, we could have had a Yemeni situation, albeit a less catastrophic one and the resistance would have ended up winning and liquidating all the rogues and their supporters. The resistance has a big heart and embraced everyone even after repeated backstabbing. And Aoun also played a part in ensuring there is internal peace. For as long as the Shia and the Christians (the largest portion of them) are united and working together, Lebanon will survive and emerge stronger. The moment the Shia and the Christians disagree and that disagreement becomes public, Lebanon will be in danger.
    w min ghatta 3laykon w sta2balkon w ammanelkon matari7 tat3isho bi maderso bl 2006?
     
    Le منشار

    Le منشار

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    what a retarded country
    hayda el moussawi ken mkhaba mitel
    el farroujj mish tale3lo 7ess
    ayem IS-IS
    reje3 hala2 eybal3eet​
     
    Rachel Corrie

    Rachel Corrie

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    what a retarded country
    hayda el moussawi ken mkhaba mitel
    el farroujj mish tale3lo 7ess
    ayem IS-IS
    reje3 hala2 eybal3eet​
    He is a politician, not a fighter.

    The group he represents dealt a blow to your ISIS. Ya da3eshi w mad3osh.
     
    Le منشار

    Le منشار

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    He is a politician, not a fighter.

    The group he represents dealt a blow to your ISIS. Ya da3eshi w mad3osh.
    mazelo bolitician, khali bel bolitics wou ma yetfalsaf 3an el bee2a el 7adineh lal 3omale2
     
    light-in-dark

    light-in-dark

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    In all sincerity:

    You can say if not for General Aoun, there would not have been Lebanon as we know it. And likewise, we can say if not for the resistance, Aoun won't have been president.

    But to say if not for Aoun the resistance won't have remain is wrong. The resistance was long before Aoun returned. The resistance liberated the south long before Aoun returned.

    Yes, Aoun gave moral support and political cover to the resistance. But this resistance can survive without Aoun. The question is could Aoun have survived without the resistance? The resistance could have survived without Aoun because it has what it takes to survive militarily on the ground. Without the support of Aoun, Lebanon, not the resistance would have not survived as we know it. Even if the resistance ends up triumphing and surviving, there would have been more wars and battles against the resistance and Lebanon could have faced much turmoil and upheavals and bloodshed and destruction. Aoun rescued his country and his people from the ploys of internal rogues and foreign enemies. And unfortunately, Aoun is trusting and befriending these internal rogues today.

    Had those rogues succeeded, we could have had a Yemeni situation, albeit a less catastrophic one and the resistance would have ended up winning and liquidating all the rogues and their supporters. The resistance has a big heart and embraced everyone even after repeated backstabbing. And Aoun also played a part in ensuring there is internal peace. For as long as the Shia and the Christians (the largest portion of them) are united and working together, Lebanon will survive and emerge stronger. The moment the Shia and the Christians disagree and that disagreement becomes public, Lebanon will be in danger.
    I agree with you 100%.
    But let us talk reality in 2006, if HA didn’t have eltifaf dakhli wa cha3bi, now moukwamah would be in a small area of Lebanon and without weapons. But there would still have guerrilla operations that’s for sure.
    I am personally happy what PMA and SHN have done they save leabanon. There is changing mentality between el sha3n el loubnaneh. There is now more lo7meh. Coz Geagea jumbo and Berri franjieh and compagnie are all confessionnal wa tafrika.
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    Ya shabeb w ya sabaya, the alliance did a good job to Lebanon, and when we say alliance it means mutual cooperation and mutual help.
    fa ma 7ada yrabe7 jmileh la 7ada lianno this makes usless tensions especially among people with instinctive reactions.
     
    Resistancefrom89

    Resistancefrom89

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    Ya shabeb w ya sabaya, the alliance did a good job to Lebanon, and when we say alliance it means mutual cooperation and mutual help.
    fa ma 7ada yrabe7 jmileh la 7ada lianno this makes usless tensions especially among people with instinctive reactions.
    Agree. Hope Mussawi can read your post :)
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    Agree. Hope Mussawi can read your post :)
    halla2 khayna @Rachel Corrie b wasselo yeh :lol::lol::lol:
    khayna Nawwaf tiba3o 7addeh, in 2005 he was with Gebran (kenet ba3dni bestahdmo la bassilo) on TV, and GEBRAN told him "mni7 enno el moufawadat mish ma3ak" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
    Danny Z

    Danny Z

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    Aoun should declare a national emergency on the border and build a wall so that ISIS doesn't come from Syria and Israel doesn't come from the South, this way not only muqawama will protected but also everybody else who's destroying the country from inside. We don't need external elements to destroy the country, we are really good at it.
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    Aoun should declare a national emergency on the border and build a wall so that ISIS doesn't come from Syria and Israel doesn't come from the South, this way not only muqawama will protected but also everybody else who's destroying the country from inside. We don't need external elements to destroy the country, we are really good at it.
    Build as many walls as you like... Israel is NOT paying for them!
     
    Danny Z

    Danny Z

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    Build as many walls as you like... Israel is NOT paying for them!
    We will build a wall and they will pay for it, watch and see how this saga will unfold. Do you think we shut down the government for 9 months for nothing?
     
    My Moria Moon

    My Moria Moon

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    In all sincerity:

    You can say if not for General Aoun, there would not have been Lebanon as we know it. And likewise, we can say if not for the resistance, Aoun won't have been president.

    But to say if not for Aoun the resistance won't have remain is wrong. The resistance was long before Aoun returned. The resistance liberated the south long before Aoun returned.

    Yes, Aoun gave moral support and political cover to the resistance. But this resistance can survive without Aoun. The question is could Aoun have survived without the resistance? The resistance could have survived without Aoun because it has what it takes to survive militarily on the ground. Without the support of Aoun, Lebanon, not the resistance would have not survived as we know it. Even if the resistance ends up triumphing and surviving, there would have been more wars and battles against the resistance and Lebanon could have faced much turmoil and upheavals and bloodshed and destruction. Aoun rescued his country and his people from the ploys of internal rogues and foreign enemies. And unfortunately, Aoun is trusting and befriending these internal rogues today.

    Had those rogues succeeded, we could have had a Yemeni situation, albeit a less catastrophic one and the resistance would have ended up winning and liquidating all the rogues and their supporters. The resistance has a big heart and embraced everyone even after repeated backstabbing. And Aoun also played a part in ensuring there is internal peace. For as long as the Shia and the Christians (the largest portion of them) are united and working together, Lebanon will survive and emerge stronger. The moment the Shia and the Christians disagree and that disagreement becomes public, Lebanon will be in danger.
    Mehdi soldier, sometimes you write posts as if you were an independent observer delivering objective analysis stripped from all the sectarian yoke we all usually suffer from. Keep them coming man, we like that much.
     
    Nonan

    Nonan

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    So, just so I’m clear, we now have 24h electricity, functioning infrastructure, amazing health coverage and education, booming economy and tourism, healthy environment and growing forests that our focus should be on such idiocy?

    And then we wonder why Lebanese never move forward... as easily distracted as Dori...
     
    AtheistForJesus

    AtheistForJesus

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    w min ghatta 3laykon w sta2balkon w ammanelkon matari7 tat3isho bi maderso bl 2006?
    Chou ya3neh ghatta 3laykon? Was it Switzerland getting bombarded or Lebanon?
    Yalleh byesma3ak bifakkir Aoun 3am ya3moul favor ma3 shi dawleh tenyeh, mish enno balado ken 3am yen2asaf.

    Why should Aoun take credit for supporting his own country against Israeli aggression?
    Mafroud kento tou2afo ma3 Israel ya3neh? Shi bida77ik.

    To cover for something means to protect someone by "lying for them".
    Was Aoun lying when he threw his support behind the "resistance" as he likes to call it.

    Bas 3abeleh a3rif.
     
    Nonan

    Nonan

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    Why should Aoun take credit for supporting his own country against Israeli aggression?
    .
    That is a very interesting question. What triggered this aggression ? Was it an act decided by the Lebanese government? Was it an act that mattered to the Lebanese? If Lebanon is sanctioned by Zanzibar because some Lebanese went there and wreaked havoc, is it Zanzibar’s fault? I’m not saying Israel wasn’t just waiting for an execuse to attack! But who gave her the excuse? HA unilaterally decided to take action, Lebanon in its entirety paid the price. I’m not talking about pre-2000, I’m talking about 2006. And heroics notwithstanding, Lebanon got devastated and gained what exactly ?

    God knows I hate Joumblatt, but I’m going to “borrow” from him. Lebanese need to decide what is more important, focus on building a functioning country (re my post above) or continuously living in a state of war that is by and large not ours. Aoun has millions of flaws but he at least acknowledged that the Syrians are no longer the enemy once kicked out of Lebanon. Why do we penalize ourselves by constantly focusing on “fighting Israel” vs building our country (and fighting corruption). Soon we won’t have any country left to protect.
     
    Rachel Corrie

    Rachel Corrie

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    We ought to have opened a thread on the speech of Fadlallah in parliament (on corruption, electricity etc), instead of the hot air of Musawi reacting to Nunu and Susu. Here are important point raised on the electricity issue in this short excerpt from his speech:

     
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