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He was the head of the committee that planned for it.
He was the middle man between Bashir Gemayel and the Israelis from before.

The Maronite-controlled media did its best to leave his name out of it.
For obvious reasons.

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Not to mention Michel Aoun was directly involved in the massacres of the Druze of Abey.
And himself ordered to kill those Arslanians that were welcoming the Army in.
And himself responsible to chopping off the stomachs of women and children in
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Al Meshref was a well known Geagea Militia outpost not an army outpost. Stop lying, The massacre that you mention is true (while exaggerated by you) however the culprits were the Geageaist from Bshareh.

I can hardly keep up with your lies. You’re one hell of a Chameleon and a liar.

you’re fooling no one. We know the truth We know the truth about you, we know the truth about every single event in the war. you are embarrassing yourself.
 
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    The Dynamic Michel Naim Aoun and the Kataeb followed was:

    1- Army let's them come in with them.
    2- They do massacres.
    3- Army says it had nothing to do with it.

    They did it with Palestinians.
    They did it with Druze in Sha7aar.
    The eighth brigade was about half Muslim And half Christian. There’s no way the army did this or allowed this. Ever.

    You’re lashing out at everybody because we’re calling you out for your hypocrisy.
    My advice is stop before you dig a deeper hole.
     
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    Previous misunderstanding? Lol.

    You can go debate people at your level of mediocre logicality which you try to bastardize in every thread with polemic.
    But you won't fare well here.

    Michel Aoun through many different sources are an Israeli agent / ally. With direct contact with Israelis.

    Nothing Nasrallah said here was wrong. He pointed out rightfully how Aoun was opposed to the Taif for the wrong reasons. While he wasn't. And which I didn't ignore but agree with.




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    الجنرال الإسرائيلي ماتان فيلنائي

    "خلال حقبة حرب لبنان الأولى 1982، كان العقيد ميشيل عون، قائد اللواء 8 المسيحي اللبناني، وكان ملاحقا من الدروز، حيث تم استهداف سيارته، حينها لم يكن وقت للعب، في اللحظة الأخيرة أنقذته من هناك، وبما أنه لم يكن متسع في سيارتي، فقد اضطررت لدفعه تحت مقعدي، وبدا مطويا بين ساقي، اليوم هو رئيس لبنان".


    Not to mention that Michel Aoun basically lead the Sabra - Shatilla Massacre, was the middle-man at the start between Bashir Gemayel and the Israelis, hid behind the US warship "New Jersey" and went to the White house to take a shit on Hezbollah in a public speech after many letters to Israeli ministers and the Mossad asking for help.

    So yes, what a misunderstanding. Aoun was a Muqawm, after all.
    Again. This is between 2 Parties that never fought against each others, yet had few misunderstandings in the past, however managed to solve them through genuine and honest dialogue and cooperation , years before the MOU.

    So El Adeh Radeh...Enta Shou Ba3ed Baddak? This does not concern you to start with.

    Sajjelleh 3endak Enno they were the only 2 Lebanese Parties that were against Taef.

    Sajjil Mnee7
     
    Abou Sandal

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    Historiclaly, Lebanese power was in the hands of the Druze and saw its golden age.
    They used the Maronites as advisers and allies. And then the Maronites stole the power.
    3terif Enno Ma Ahertak Ella Hayde W 7ajtak Laff W Dawaran
     
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    جيش أمين جميل من كان قائده و عماده؟​



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    Again. This is between 2 Parties that never fought against each others, yet had few misunderstandings in the past, however managed to solve them through genuine and honest dialogue and cooperation , years before the MOU.

    So El Adeh Radeh...Enta Shou Ba3ed Baddak? This does not concern you to start with.

    Sajjelleh 3endak Enno they were the only 2 Lebanese Parties that were against Taef.

    Sajjil Mnee7
    They did fight against each other.
    E.g The Mountain War. Hezbollah had joined with the Druze (even before it's official name).

    That's +1 for them. I hate the Taif too.

    But one is an Iranian agent and the other is an Israeli agent.
     
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    They did fight against each other.
    E.g The Mountain War. Hezbollah had joined with the Druze (even before it's official name).

    That's +1 for them. I hate the Taif too.

    But one is an Iranian agent and the other is an Israeli agent.
    Enno you’re inventing history 3ala El Tayyir now?

    7elo Walla
     
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    Enno you’re inventing history 3ala El Tayyir now?

    7elo Walla
    Everything I say has a citation, confirmed source and pictures to go with it.
    The pictures were even posted to a well-known political archive twitter account.
    I can find them and post them here.
     
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    Enno you’re inventing history 3ala El Tayyir now?

    7elo Walla
    And clearly the Lebanese Forces were in the same boat with the Leb Army and its US warship "New Jersey".

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    Abou Sandal

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    Everything I say has a citation, confirmed source and pictures to go with it.
    The pictures were even posted to a well-known political archive twitter account.
    I can find them and post them here.
    Dude, my advice to you is to throw away all your “sources” in the nearest recycle bin, because they are obviously not pointing you out towards truth and fact, and instead, get some real research done.

    It’s an honest advice by the way. You have every interest in following it. You’re debating with people who survived that era, and lived it day by day, with all its ups and downs.
     
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    And clearly the Lebanese Forces were in the same boat with the Leb Army and its US warship "New Jersey".

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    Shou Khass El new Jersey Halla2?

    (By the way, when the new Jersey bombed Jabal, it was standing right in front of my eyes...)
     
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    Dude, my advice to you is to throw away all your “sources” in the nearest recycle bin, because they are obviously not pointing you out towards truth and fact, and instead, get some real research done.

    It’s an honest advice by the way. You have every interest in following it. You’re debating with people who survived that era, and lived it day by day, with all its ups and downs.
    The content you see is from an archived Nahar newspaper.
    That mentions the name "Hezbollah" even before the official declaration of the group.
    And this should be known to anyone from Arabsalim - Hasbaya - Chouf who lived in that age.
    And witnessed that group.

    What you need to throw in the recycle bin is your arrogance, arm-chair intellectualism, Mariam Bassam-like cynicism and "I was there" bullshit.

    And dig through the sources instead of pretending you're some wise old man that knows better than Archived Nahar Newspapers.
     
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    Many sources claim that Hezbollah started as early as 1982. The "official establishment" in 1985 is another thing.

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    But I guess should believe your Chauffeur Taxi renditions of Lebanese politics and history.
     
    Abou Sandal

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    The content you see is from an archived Nahar newspaper.
    That mentions the name "Hezbollah" even before the official declaration of the group.
    And this should be known to anyone from Arabsalim - Hasbaya - Chouf who lived in that age.
    And witnessed that group.

    What you need to throw in the recycle bin is your arrogance, arm-chair intellectualism, Mariam Bassam-like cynicism and "I was there" bullshit.

    And dig through the sources instead of pretending you're some wise old man that knows better than Archived Nahar Newspapers.
    Dude, this article as a whole is bullshit. Take it or leave it.

    To get back to my point and bottom line, HA and Aounists never fought against each others. Ever. 3ajbak 3ajbak Ma 3ajbak Mesh Mhemm...Bass my advice, Ma T2oula Eddem 7adan Hayde
     
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    And dig through the sources instead of pretending you're some wise old man that knows better than Archived Nahar Newspapers.
    I’m not old neither wise. It’s you who are too young and much deluded.
     
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    Dude, this article as a whole is bullshit. Take it or leave it.

    To get back to my point and bottom line, HA and Aounists never fought against each others. Ever. 3ajbak 3ajbak Ma 3ajbak Mesh Mhemm...Bass my advice, Ma T2oula Eddem 7adan Hayde
    And so what if that's true?
    Nasrallah blasted Aoun as an "Israeli destructive Maronite supremacist agent"
    Didn't support his return to Lebanon after he fled.
    And stood in the other political camp.
     
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    I’m not old neither wise. It’s you who are too young and much deluded.
    I'll let those observing the discussion decide that.
    It's rather clear to me who knows what he's saying and who's getting a jalta each time new information to his ears is being said.
     
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    And so what if that's true?
    Nasrallah blasted Aoun as an "Israeli destructive Maronite supremacist agent"
    Didn't support his return to Lebanon after he fled.
    And stood in the other political camp.
    Henneh 7allo Meshkelton Men Zamen Zamen, years before GMA even came back to Lebanon.

    Ya3ne L Jame3a Tsala7o. Bass Fahhemneh...Enta Leish Za3len?
     
    Dynamis

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    Historiclaly, Lebanese power was in the hands of the Druze and saw its golden age.
    They used the Maronites as advisers and allies. And then the Maronites stole the power.
    You are such a Chameleon hypocrite.
    Yesterday, you got your post deleted because you called Maronites "مرابعين ومكاريي" و "خدام ارزاق" . Don't you remember?
    Lets face it, you and Jumblat are here for "La Zizanie". You claim to critique him, but you are a cloacked Mossad chameleon...no more no less. Hence your incencent attacks on PMA, and HA in the middle of your mindless other posts.
     
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    I'll let those observing the discussion decide that.
    It's rather clear to me who knows what he's saying and who's getting a jalta each time new information to his ears is being said.
    “New information”....hahaha. Ok...wait...hahaha
     
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