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  • JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    #5
    Unfortunately this is the same everywhere with some variation.
    CNN has published a video few years ago about an experiment done by a woman. She wore a camera and microphone and wandered in New York.
    She recorded all types of verbal harassments...
     

    superduper703

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    #6
    Unfortunately this is the same everywhere with some variation.
    CNN has published a video few years ago about an experiment done by a woman. She wore a camera and microphone and wandered in New York.
    She recorded all types of verbal harassments...
    I remember that video. But it wasn't about someone asking for help after being raped. It was just an experiment of a girl walking close to construction sites and the like, and being harassed verbally. This is a totally different experiment.

    The backward mentality is still permeated in the Lebanese society. My friend's daughter, who's 23 years old, here in Canada, posted a couple of photos of herself out on the town in some revealing clothing (she wore a Playboy Bunny outfit for Halloween). Family and friends in Lebanon saw her Instagram, and word got back to my friend that his daughter was "a slut".

    This is unfortunately our sick society.
     

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    #12
    The backward mentality is still permeated in the Lebanese society. My friend's daughter, who's 23 years old, here in Canada, posted a couple of photos of herself out on the town in some revealing clothing (she wore a Playboy Bunny outfit for Halloween). Family and friends in Lebanon saw her Instagram, and word got back to my friend that his daughter was "a slut".

    This is unfortunately our sick society.
    you won't like what I will say...
    I am a conservative person, I don't like provocative dressing especially the ones that related to portraying women as sexual objects made for men to enjoy...
    However this by no means a justification for anyone to rape or aggress or not help a woman in distress disregarding what she is doing or what she is wearing.

    On the other hand, I also want to evoke a subject that is not really well understood or well explained.
    A month ago a colleague (a man) came to office with a black eye... he was robbed on a saturday night near Opéra de Paris.
    I asked him what time was it? he replied 4am !!! So I told him why aren't you in your bed at this time ....???!!!!
    Many will find my question shocking...but it is not...
    I admit that every citizen should feel safe in his country/city at anytime...but this is only the theory...
    in practice there is no 100% security and the police can't protect every single person.
    So one can put himself in harm's way or be pragmatic and use his freedom movement wisely...
    This is by no mean a justification for the aggressor, but if the authorities can't protect you in certain areas/time and you can't protect yourself, it won't be wise to go there.
    This applies to women too...
     

    superduper703

    Well-Known Member
    #15
    you won't like what I will say...
    I am a conservative person, I don't like provocative dressing especially the ones that related to portraying women as sexual objects made for men to enjoy...
    However this by no means a justification for anyone to rape or aggress or not help a woman in distress disregarding what she is doing or what she is wearing.

    On the other hand, I also want to evoke a subject that is not really well understood or well explained.
    A month ago a colleague (a man) came to office with a black eye... he was robbed on a saturday night near Opéra de Paris.
    I asked him what time was it? he replied 4am !!! So I told him why aren't you in your bed at this time ....???!!!!
    Many will find my question shocking...but it is not...
    I admit that every citizen should feel safe in his country/city at anytime...but this is only the theory...
    in practice there is no 100% security and the police can't protect every single person.
    So one can put himself in harm's way or be pragmatic and use his freedom movement wisely...
    This is by no mean a justification for the aggressor, but if the authorities can't protect you in certain areas/time and you can't protect yourself, it won't be wise to go there.
    This applies to women too...
    I understand, but moving the needle from "your dress is inappropriate" to "you're slut" is what's wrong with the Lebanese mentality. My friend wasn't happy with his daughter's dress, but she's an adult, it's Halloween, and she was with a bunch of people dressed the same. Had she worn something like this to walk down the street during the day, then maybe it's justified to call her that. But even then, we go back to the video and the sick mentality of "she brought it on herself". NO ONE should bring rape upon themselves just because their skirt is short or their blouse shows a bit of cleavage. The criminal is the rapist, not the woman.

    Some Lebanese still think that honor killing is justified.
     

    Orange Hope

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    #16
    I understand, but moving the needle from "your dress is inappropriate" to "you're slut" is what's wrong with the Lebanese mentality. My friend wasn't happy with his daughter's dress, but she's an adult, it's Halloween, and she was with a bunch of people dressed the same. Had she worn something like this to walk down the street during the day, then maybe it's justified to call her that. But even then, we go back to the video and the sick mentality of "she brought it on herself". NO ONE should bring rape upon themselves just because their skirt is short or their blouse shows a bit of cleavage. The criminal is the rapist, not the woman.

    Some Lebanese still think that honor killing is justified.
    It's like a thief stealing a nice car and blaming the car for it
     
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