2019 Coronavirus Disease "COVID-19" [Over a Million Reported Infections Globally]

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Thoma

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Thank you!!!! people don't understand that science on its own is worth NOTHING.. it is useless and never solves anything.. it is science supported by thoughts and prayers that actually finds solutions to world problems.

ARE YOU SERIOUS NOW??? so 3am betrabbi7 el scientists jmile enno they wouldn't have existed without religious institutions?? or you mean they should thank you for keeping them alive and not burning them on a stick for heresy!
There's no such thing as 'science on its own'. Science as we know it was born out of, and set in motion upon, a particular philosophical/religious foundation of premises, which it inherently (and now implicitly (thanks to centuries of conditioning) ) presupposes, contra other specific foundations. From that fact follows a quadruplet of other premises; 1) without said foundation, science ceases to be science, 2) When science is being fulfilled, when it is being useful, when it is solving what it is otherwise originally set to solve and offer, it is simply being true to its foundation and purpose. 3) a scientist can successfully practice his science in its narrow scope and still be ignorant/denier of science in its wider scope (i.e. of its foundation and original purpose), this is "not practicing science to its full extent". 4) If some scientist's specialized scientific work aligns with science's wider scope but only to some extent, e.g. successfully finding a cure to a particular disease, or to a full extent e.g. with the intention of ultimately offering it universally, then automatically, this scientist, sha2a am aba, is either partially or fully fulfilling the aforementioned religiously assigned role, no matter how much he may scream or yell in denial.

Also, no scientist was burned or killed for their science by the Church. You're just parroting and propagating a 19th century baseless myth that's long been abandoned.
 
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    Indie

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    Thank you!!!! people don't understand that science on its own is worth NOTHING.. it is useless and never solves anything.. it is science supported by thoughts and prayers that actually finds solutions to world problems.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS NOW??? so 3am betrabbi7 el scientists jmile enno they wouldn't have existed without religious institutions?? or you mean they should thank you for keeping them alive and not burning them on a stick for heresy!
    You can use science to build bombs or you can use it to create vaccines. Without Christian values guiding scientists, science on its own can be very destructive. And, yes, I insist on Christian values, even though atheists like to claim those values are their invention.

    Furthermore, some of the first, or most important, scientists were religious, many of them clergy members.
     
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    Robin Hood

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    I agree.
    Furthermore, for any effective lockdown to have had results, it should have been declared at a very early stage. At least a month ago. But how could they have known what they know today? Nobody did. Nevertheless, a late lockdown, as was been issued lately, at our relatively still low rate of infected (?) (at least according to our statistics) is still far better than no lockdown. But then again: for how long can our people stay locked before they start kicking and screaming out of hunger?

    If we consider a worst case corona scenario, where the peak of the epidemic spread is yet to be reached, a 3 months lockdown may be what awaits us. And that's 2 months too much for the aforementioned economic reasons. So what can we do?

    We have a relatively small country. And we're used to beg for assistance. A suggestion would be to ask the South Koreans or the Chinese to send us as many test kits as is possible. Order our municipalities to organize a sweeping mass testing of the population in the big cities to start with. Identify the infected and enforce quarantine on them with heavy penalties. The rest may start moving around..

    Or, turn it ellawiye, lift the curfew in a couple of weeks and let destiny decide who lives on and who perishes. I suspect at some point, sooner or later, many countries will decide to move on on that path.. for economic reasons of course.
    Time to start using the BdL's reserves.
     
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    You can use science to build bombs or you can use it to create vaccines. Without Christian values guiding scientists, science on its own can be very destructive. And, yes, I insist on Christian values, even though atheists like to claim those values are their invention.

    Furthermore, some of the first, or most important, scientists were religious, many of them clergy members.
    Hitler was Raised by a catholic family. The nuclear bomb was made by America - a Christian country. Bush claimed Jesus spoke to him before he invaded Irak. Trump thinks he’s the chosen one.
    Religious values could guide people towards peace and love and forgiveness and tolerance, or it could be used for hate discrimination, intolerance, and destruction.
    Arguing who Takes the credit for the successes of science today reminds of some Lebanese who, very time want to feel better about themselves, scream: “ne7na saddarna el 7aref lal 3alam, 6000 sene 7adara!” WHO CARES!? What are we today? What do stand for today? How are we contributing to the world today???
    So the pissing contest is not so timely.
    If we want to pray, let’s pray for our flock to Be smart enough to listen to the experts and stay the F home, and not to pick up a fight in churches over whether the holy bread should be delivered in their hand or in their mouth, or that they don’t listen to their pastor who instructed them to drink dettol (59 people died in South Africa).
     
    Indie

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    Hitler was Raised by a catholic family. The nuclear bomb was made by America - a Christian country. Bush claimed Jesus spoke to him before he invaded Irak. Trump thinks he’s the chosen one.
    Hitler and the nazis hated the Church and wanted to destroy it. The nuclear bomb was made by scentists who obviously did not care about Christianity enough to follow the "do not kill" commandment. Bush could have claimed Loubnanito spoke to him; would that make Loubnanito responsible for his actions? As for Trump, you don't take anything he says seriously, so why start now?

    Religious values could guide people towards peace and love and forgiveness and tolerance, or it could be used for hate discrimination, intolerance, and destruction.
    There is nothing in the Christian doctrine that teaches people discrimination, intoletance, or destruction. If people are intolerant, destructive, and if they discriminate, that's on them, regardless of which religion they wrongly claim to represent.

    Arguing who Takes the credit for the successes of science today reminds of some Lebanese who, very time want to feel better about themselves, scream: “ne7na saddarna el 7aref lal 3alam, 6000 sene 7adara!” WHO CARES!? What are we today? What do stand for today? How are we contributing to the world today???
    So the pissing contest is not so timely.
    If we want to pray, let’s pray for our flock to Be smart enough to listen to the experts and stay the F home, and not to pick up a fight in churches over whether the holy bread should be delivered in their hand or in their mouth, or that they don’t listen to their pastor who instructed them to drink dettol (59 people died in South Africa).
    It is the atheists in this thread who started the attacks on Christianity, out of the blue. We are merely responding.

    If you guys don't want to have your false claims corrected, don't use a tragic social situation to try and score points against Christianity.
     
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    • 08:51

      روحاني: تخطينا الموجة الأولى من انتشار فيروس كورونا في إيران وهناك تحذيرات من الموجة الثانية



    • 08:36

      تسجيل 172 إصابة جديدة بفيروس كورونا في ماليزيا ليصل عدد المصابين إلى نحو 1800



    • 08:18

      وزارة الصحة بجنوب أفريقيا: عدد الإصابات بفيروس كورونا تخطى 700



    • 08:17

      وزير الصحة الكويتي: شفاء 4 مصابين بكورونا وإجمالي المتعافين 43
     
    TayyarBeino

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    09:02
    وزارة الصحة الإسرائيلية: وفاتان بكورونا و474 إصابة في 24 ساعة الماضية ليرتفع عدد الوفيات ل 5 والمصابين لـ 2030

    08:59
    موسكو: شفاء 14 مريضا بـ"كورونا" وإصابة 290 جميعهم من قدموا دول أوروبية

    08:40
    روحاني: سننفذ قرارات أكثر تشددا غدًا رغم أن المشافي أصبحت خالية بنسبة 60%
     
    Orangina

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    There's no such thing as 'science on its own'. Science as we know it was born out of, and set in motion upon, a particular philosophical/religious foundation of premises, which it inherently (and now implicitly (thanks to centuries of conditioning) ) presupposes, contra other specific foundations. From that fact follows a quadruplet of other premises; 1) without said foundation, science ceases to be science, 2) When science is being fulfilled, when it is being useful, when it is solving what it is otherwise originally set to solve and offer, it is simply being true to its foundation and purpose. 3) a scientist can successfully practice his science in its narrow scope and still be ignorant/denier of science in its wider scope (i.e. of its foundation and original purpose), this is "not practicing science to its full extent". 4) If some scientist's specialized scientific work aligns with science's wider scope but only to some extent, e.g. successfully finding a cure to a particular disease, or to a full extent e.g. with the intention of ultimately offering it universally, then automatically, this scientist, sha2a am aba, is either partially or fully fulfilling the aforementioned religiously assigned role, no matter how much he may scream or yell in denial.

    Also, no scientist was burned or killed for their science by the Church. You're just parroting and propagating a 19th century baseless myth that's long been abandoned.
    True maybe the church did not kill scientists or burned them....But The church had a big role in banning the books of many big scientists and finding them vehemently suspect of heresy! The church even played a role in imprisoning scientists and keeping them arrested for the rest of their lives...
     
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    illusion84

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    The virus hit hard the religious people in Iran and in Italy; we could see the ramifications in Lebanon.
    Many of the infected Lebanese were in religious visits in both countries.

    Now what does that mean?

    1- Religion is not factual; if God exists he would have protected his followers having the hardship to go visit another country to fulfil the religious needs and duties
    2- Corona virus is made by Satan to punish the believers
    3- God is testing the true believers
    4- Shia and Catholics are astray the only true religious site is in Meka, and God protected it.
     
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