2019 Coronavirus Disease "COVID-19" [Russia approved first Covid-19 vaccine]

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  • Abou Sandal

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    L'Ordre des médecins met en garde contre l'expérimentation de traitements contre le Covid
    Par Le Figaro avec AFP
    Publié le 23 avril 2020 à 20:25

    L'Ordre des médecins a mis en garde jeudi «une vingtaine» de médecins libéraux qui testent sur leurs patients un cocktail de traitements contre le Covid-19 dont l'efficacité n'est pas prouvée, les invitant à ne pas «susciter de faux espoirs de guérison».


    «Les signalements qui nous ont été rapportés de traitements non éprouvés (contre le nouveau coronavirus, NDLR) sont multiples, tombent dans l'espace public avec des espoirs infondés qui peuvent naître»
    , a expliqué à l'AFP Jean-Marcel Mourgues, vice-président du Conseil national de l'Ordre des médecins (CNOM). Plusieurs médecins se sont exprimés publiquement ces derniers jours (notamment dans Le Parisien et l'Est Républicain) pour affirmer l'efficacité du traitement prescrit «de manière empirique» à leurs patients présentant des symptômes de Covid-19: pour certains, un anti-histaminique, pour d'autres, un cocktail combinant l'antibiotique azithromycine, du zinc et un traitement de l'asthme.

    L'instance déontologique indique dans un communiqué avoir «invité» les conseils départementaux de l'Ordre où exercent les médecins concernés «à recueillir les explications de leurs confrères sur leurs dits protocoles et à leur rappeler leurs obligations déontologiques». S'ils constatent des manquements, les conseils départementaux peuvent alors transmettre les dossiers des praticiens concernés aux instances disciplinaires de l'Ordre, en vue d'éventuelles sanctions. Ce rappel des «règles en vigueur» s'adresse à «l'ensemble des médecins qui enfreindraient ces règles de déontologie (...) quelles que soient leur expertise, leur spécialité et leur notoriété», ajoute le Dr Mourgues.

    Le CNOM ajoute avoir «informé l'Agence nationale de sécurité du médicament (ANSM) de ces protocoles qui s'inscrivent en dehors de la législation en vigueur», les qualifiant de «protocoles de recherche cliniques illégaux». Toute étude clinique, sauf si elle porte sur des médicaments prescrits de manière habituelle, doit en effet recevoir une autorisation de l'ANSM ainsi que d'un organe éthique, un comité de protection des personnes. «Sur un plan humain, on peut comprendre la détresse autour de cette pandémie qui engendre une mortalité qu'on n'a pas connu depuis fort longtemps, (...) pour autant il ne faut pas faire courir au patient un risque injustifié, pour des bénéfices non documentés», argumente le Dr Mourgues. «Il ne faut pas que la compassion entraîne des dérives dans la prescription», conclut-il.



     
    HalaMadrid

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    Well, wind turbines kill thousands of birds each year and birds are important for the ecosystem and in plant reproduction which defeats the purpose if you ask me,

    Most energy-efficient solutions aimed at saving the environment are actually harming it.
    We are wasting valuable money pursuing stupid clean energy solutions when there's little evidence to suggest humans are responsible for climate change.
    As opposed to famously bird friendly burning of coal and fossil fuels?

    More relatedly: Coronavirus detected on particles of air pollution
     
    NewLeb

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    They just started climbing the curve.. the Outlook looks horrific.
    Well, that’s what they said about America, but the USA still has one of the lowest mortality rates.

    But you have to admit that there is a big gap in terms of performance between certain countries. Iran lost dozens of its own politicians and military figures; not to mention the record number of deaths in Italy or Spain or France...but Sweden, which didn’t even enforce a lockdown, isn’t doing that bad- consider how “lethal” this virus has been described as being.
     
    NewLeb

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    The EU wants to be best friends with China and Iran. Clearly, it hasn’t been learning its lessons. I hear Paris looks like Karachi nowadays....


     
    Dr. Strangelove

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    Well, that’s what they said about America, but the USA still has one of the lowest mortality rates.

    But you have to admit that there is a big gap in terms of performance between certain countries. Iran lost dozens of its own politicians and military figures; not to mention the record number of deaths in Italy or Spain or France...but Sweden, which didn’t even enforce a lockdown, isn’t doing that bad- consider how “lethal” this virus has been described as being.
    Actually, Sweden has the 10th highest deaths/1M population in the world. USA 16th.

    Spain (4th), Italy (5th) and France (6th) suffered greatly from the virus, but are trending downwards, contrary to Sweden and the US.

    Iran is 24th, but I'm not sure how trustworthy those numbers are.

    Anyway, this isn't some game. It's not a competition. The numbers don't help your case, but how successful a country is in fighting the pandemic should not be measured by how badly other countries are doing - especially when the conditions are not the same.
     
    Red Phoenix

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    This guy 7assan, I like him. He's proving he's smart with a strong touch of honesty you never sense but in extremely few Leb politicians, and they're fewer than one hand's fingers.

    In my view, the best outcome of the revolution would be to never bring back into the government names from the past. Imagine waking up to nightmarish names like Tamam Salam, Sa3d Hariri and some 3assim Qanso, again, in this life .. :hungover: I'd be tempted to shoot myself before that.
    imagine bringing back bassil

    bikafe
     
    Red Phoenix

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    They are idiots. How can they achieve herd immunity if only 1000 recovered and 2000 died. If they all die , I guess they don't get any worse numbers.
    i really think sweden has given us a priceless reference to compare against

    i know they might mostly horrifically die

    but its not certain

    the experiment is still undergoing

    i think they are idiots since they are soo hippy leftists, but then again they do have many thing properly working for them
     
    Red Phoenix

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    The EU wants to be best friends with China and Iran. Clearly, it hasn’t been learning its lessons. I hear Paris looks like Karachi nowadays....


    EU will succeed in fixing western chinese relations the same way they succeeded fixing isralei palestinian ones for the last 50 years
     
    Red Phoenix

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    17:40

    مستشفى الهراوي في زحلة: إجراء 39 فحصا اليوم والنتائج كلها سلبية
    it seems this government has done a very decent job controlling covid

    expect a deluge of feces flug at it then from the opposition for succeeding so far
     
    TayyarBeino

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    18:55
    مستشفى الحريري: إصابة جديدة بكورونا وحالة شفاء
     
    Abou Sandal

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    US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November — TV report
    White House was reportedly not interested in the intel, but it was passed onto NATO, IDF; when it reached Israel’s Health Ministry, ‘nothing was done’
    By TOI STAFF16 April 2020, 9:51 pm
    Updated: 17 April 2020


    US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (R) attend a press conference in the East Room of the White House on January 28, 2020. (Alex Wong/Getty Images/AFP)


    US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.

    According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.


    Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage — and was known only apparently to the Chinese government.

    US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF.


    Medical staff wear protective clothing to help stop the spread of a deadly virus which began in the city, work at the Wuhan Red Cross Hospital in Wuhan on January 25, 2020. (Hector Retamal/)


    The network said Israeli military officials later in November discussed the possibility of the spread of the virus to the region and how it would affect Israel and neighboring countries.

    The intelligence also reached Israel’s decision makers and the Health Ministry, where “nothing was done,” according to the report.

    Last week, ABC News reported that US intelligence officials were warning about the coronavirus in a report prepared in November by the American military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence.

    It was unclear if that was the same report that was said to have been shared with Israel.

    Colonel Shane Day, the NCMI director, denied last week that any such report existed. “As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters,” he said. “However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists.”

    In its first major step to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, Israel announced on January 30 it was barring all flights from China, ten days after Chinese leader Xi Jinping issued his first public comments on the virus and the Asian country’s top epidemiologist said for the first time it could be spread from person to person.

    An Associated Press report on Wednesday said Xi’s warning came seven days after Chinese officials secretly determined that they were likely facing a pandemic, potentially costing China and other countries valuable time to prepare for the outbreak.

    Doctors in Wuhan, the city at the center of the outbreak in China, are reported to have first tried to have warn about the virus in December, but were censored.

    The Chinese government has repeatedly denied suppressing information in the early days, saying it immediately reported the outbreak to the World Health Organization.

    Agencies contributed to this report.
     
    TayyarBeino

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    19:04
    الحدث: إيطاليا تسجل 260 وفاة الحصيلة الأدني منذ 14 آذار

    18:59
    سكاي نيوز: رئيس الوزراء البريطاني بوريس جونسون يصل مقر الحكومة في لندن عائدًا من مقره الريفي استعدادا لاستئناف عمله غدا الاثنين





    • 19:12

      بريطانيا: تسجيل 413 وفاة جديدة بفيروس كورونا و 4463 اصابة جديدة




    • 19:06

      ولاية نيويورك الأميركية تعلن تسجيل 367 وفاة جديدة بفيروس كورونا
     
    SAVO

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    EU will succeed in fixing western chinese relations the same way they succeeded fixing isralei palestinian ones for the last 50 years
    Europe is not to blame regarding the palestinian israeli conflict.. But arabs and muslim
     
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