2019 Coronavirus Disease "COVID-19" [Russia approved first Covid-19 vaccine]

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  • TayyarBeino

    TayyarBeino

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    وطنية - اعلنت وزارة الصحة العامة تسجيل 224 إصابة كورونا جديدة رفعت العدد التراكمي للحالات المثبتة الى 4555.

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    Abou Sandal

    Abou Sandal

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    We're running in circles here so let's agree to disagree and call it a day.

    Here are the points of disagreement:
    We disagree on the need for RCT. My point is that the medical institution numbers do not constitute a randomized controlled trial. They provide retrospective data large enough for statistical significance with one huge problem: they do not clearly isolate treatment efficacy from other factors hence the need for randomization and control. Moreover RCTs run to date disprove efficacy of treatment. My opinion happens to be the majority opinion of the medical community in more than one country. On the other hand, you seem to think the medical institution data constitutes a randomized controlled group which is sufficient and you think the medical community in disingenuous and politicized in its assessment.

    Based on our respective RCT view we disagree on whether there is proof of treatment efficiency. You think it's enough, I think it's nowhere near enough.

    Another point of disagreement is the stifling of research: You think the whole world is stifling the efficacy to spite Trump and/or for Pharma's financial gain. I find it very hard to believe that with half the US being staunchly pro-Trump (without mentioning Bolosnaro and other clowns), with the clout of the US federal government and with everyone in the world reeling from the pandemic and clutching for straws one is remotely able to stifle any effective treatment.

    Where we agree is that Trump's stupid behavior is not the basis for assessing HCQ+AZ.

    Feel free to add.
    hehe...here is a summary of this debate:

    So it’s like we’re both working on a prototype plane.

    On one hand, you’re waiting for simulator’s results and numbers to allow it to do its first flight, and you do not consider it viable and able to fly, unless the simulation numbers satisfy you for that effect.

    And on the other hand, I’m telling you that I already flew the prototype and made multiple safe trips with it and that the data board numbers collected during those flights, are all conclusive about the plane’s ability to fly safely and fulfill its purpose.

    But you’re still stuck in the simulation phase and debate and can’t seem to move beyond it.

    What you’re missing here, is that real life implementation already took place, and that by this fact only and by the extensive results it provided, the need for simulation and theoretical and controlled experimentation, was suppressed and surpassed.

    Evolution can only happen at this stage if you move on from this point and forward.
     
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    SAVO

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    i have a flight to sicilly after a week (from northern Italy) ,, on my return i have indirect flight through Tirana - albania ..
    i had to write an email to the ministry of foreign affair to ask if on my return i should make quarantena .. given that i am transiting from albania ( 3 hours in the airport) ...

    u cannot immagine the headeach .. damn..
    im risking to cancel my ticket.. in case

    this is the regulation that might change from day to day ..


    Until 31 July, entrance to Italy is forbidden for people who, in the 14 previous days, stayed in or transited through any of the following Countries: Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia Herzegovina, Brazil, Chile, Kosovo, Kuwait, North Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Oman, Panama, Peru, Dominican Republic, Serbia (for Kosovo, Montenegro and Serbia the ban applies from July 16, for all other Countries on the list the ban applies from July 9)
    Persons entering Italy from July 24, coming from Bulgaria or Romania, or have stayed/transited in Bulgaria or Romania in the last 14 days, will still be required to self-isolate for 14 days.

    Italian nationals returning to Italy and foreigners in Italy
     
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    SAVO

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    those highlihted countries are where covid on high risk .right now --
    of course USA also but it have a separate module .
     
    V

    Viral

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    Number of actual deaths in the US has almost doubled from two weeks ago getting close to 1,500/day, putting it in perspective, it's like one 9/11 every other day...
    You can't blame the increased number of deaths to increased testing...
    Brazil is not much better and India is about to run out of control...

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    V

    Viral

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    Is it just me????
    What kind of society and culture we live in?
    Watch Jim Jordan acting like Al Pacino. Is that irritating to watch or just business as usual in the USA? He must believe he's attracting his crowd and scoring cheap points for the next elections...


    'You're putting words in my mouth': Fauci and Rep. Jim Jordan clash over police-brutality protests at House coronavirus hearing
     
    TayyarBeino

    TayyarBeino

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    وزارة الصحة: 175 إصابة كورونا جديدة رفعت عدد الحالات المثبتة الى 4730
    2020-08-01
    اعلنت وزارة الصحة العامة تسجيل 175 إصابة كورونا جديدة رفعت عدد الحالات المثبتة الى 4730.
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    TayyarBeino

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    over 18 M cases..




















































































































































































































































































































































































    # Country,
    Other
    Total
    Cases
    New
    Cases
    Total
    Deaths
    New
    Deaths
    Total
    Recovered
    Active
    Cases
    Serious,
    Critical
    Tot Cases/
    1M pop
    Deaths/
    1M pop
    Total
    Tests
    Tests/
    1M pop
    Population
    -- World 18,008,487 +255,779 688,022 +5,601 11,324,120 5,996,345 65,698 2,310 88.3
    1 USA 4,764,318 +58,429 157,898 +1,123 2,362,903 2,243,517 18,720 14,386 477 59,226,909 178,841 331,171,664
    2 Brazil 2,708,876 +42,578 93,616 +1,048 1,884,051 731,209 8,318 12,736 440 13,096,132 61,574 212,690,082
    3 India 1,751,919 +54,865 37,403 +852 1,146,879 567,637 8,944 1,268 27 19,358,659 14,016 1,381,159,795
    4 Russia 845,443 +5,462 14,058 +95 646,524 184,861 2,300 5,793 96 28,478,012 195,135 145,940,072
    5 South Africa 503,290 +10,107 8,153 +148 342,461 152,676 539 8,477 137 3,001,985 50,563 59,371,352
    6 Mexico 424,637 +8,458 46,688 +688 278,618 99,331 3,985 3,291 362 984,288 7,627 129,047,665
    7 Peru 422,183 +7,448 19,408 +191 290,835 111,940 1,416 12,790 588 2,377,948 72,037 33,010,043
    8 Chile 357,658 +1,991 9,533 +76 330,507 17,618 1,445 18,696 498 1,648,390 86,167 19,130,274
    9 Spain 335,602 -- 28,445 -- N/A N/A 617 7,178 608 6,678,414 142,834 46,756,402
    10 Iran 306,752 +2,548 16,982 +216 265,830 23,940 4,011 3,648 202 2,482,553 29,525 84,082,937
    11 Colombia 306,181 +10,673 10,330 +225 160,708 135,143 1,493 6,012 203 1,609,729 31,607 50,928,858
    12 UK 303,952 +771 46,193 +74 N/A N/A 86 4,475 680 16,280,223 239,707 67,917,167
    13 Pakistan 279,146 +841 5,970 +19 248,027 25,149 1,146 1,262 27 1,996,167 9,023 221,237,160
    14 Saudi Arabia 277,478 +1,573 2,887 +21 237,548 37,043 2,016 7,960 83 3,395,688 97,413 34,858,507
    15 Italy 247,832 +295 35,146 +5 200,229 12,457 43 4,100 581 6,873,496 113,698 60,453,777
    16 Bangladesh 239,860 +2,199 3,132 +21 136,253 100,475 1 1,455 19 1,185,611 7,193 164,829,004
    17 Turkey 231,869 +996 5,710 +19 215,516 10,643 586 2,747 68 4,845,669 57,402 84,415,940
    18 Germany 211,077 +412 9,226 +2 193,600 8,251 261 2,519 110 8,006,135 95,530 83,807,610
    19 Argentina 196,543 +5,241 3,596 +53 86,499 106,448 1,128 4,345 80 722,950 15,983 45,231,224
    20 France 187,919 -- 30,265 -- 81,500 76,154 371 2,878 464 2,982,302 45,680 65,286,338
    21 Iraq 126,704 +2,095 4,805 +64 89,275 32,624 463 3,145 119 1,014,760 25,184 40,293,665
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Yeah, I remember a few months ago when many were gloating about how certain Americans didn’t want to leave Lebanon over fear of the virus in the US. I wonder if those bozos still think that today;

     
    Manifesto

    Manifesto

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    Yeah, I remember a few months ago when many were gloating about how certain Americans didn’t want to leave Lebanon over fear of the virus in the US. I wonder if those bozos still think that today;

    Yeah, I find it hypocritical that EU countries opened up to each other but are banning US citizens from entering. It's all political.
    How is someone from France or Spain, which are still reporting 1000 cases per day, less of a threat than someone from the US?
    The USA is not doing any worse than Europe. It's just a bigger country.

    The death toll per capita in France, Spain, and Italy is much bigger than in the US.
     
    Manifesto

    Manifesto

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    I'm happy for this fella.

     
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