Steven Gerrard
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2019 Coronavirus Disease "COVID-19" [Vaccinations Underway Worldwide]
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7abibeh ne7na min jeeb 10 wled wo mindarrebon bil jabha.
julesvernes99
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I don't know about dearest Lebanon but around the world, Ivermectin is not available over the counter and requires a prescritpion from your Dr so without a 'physician's advice' you can't get it.
Now, study after study by Drs and scientists are now indicating that Ivermectin is an effective TREATMENT...Countries like India are using it with amazing success ...why not the Lebanese f***tards in governement don't even try it ? setup a fu***nkg study with one of the big hospitals...the next 500 confirmed cases...give them one of the Ivermectin-based protocols and monitor them....not that hard and you got nothing to lose...but hold on....I know....Geageaists talked about it , so let's attack the drug's efficacy like total idiots!!!
(P.S. To be clear: Geagea is a scum of the earth, a murderer and a traitor. Him, Jumblat and Berri should be tried for crimes against the Lebanese people.)
CitizenOfTheRepublic
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Indeed, you want Lebanon to run a drug trial... We can't solve our trash crisis but we can run of course a double randomized trial free of bias, looooooooooool
Perhaps ****tards like you, and those in Lebanon as well be them Geageaist or well intended angels for all I care, should wait for results from adequately powered well-designed and well-conducted clinical trials before injecting already weakened patients with any miracle drug du jour the internet spits out.
Check out the last miracle drug in the words of its biggest users: Covid-19 : l'hydroxychloroquine ne permet pas de réduire la mortalité, admet Didier Raoult
Steven Gerrard
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Also there is an easy way to know if you have coronavirus, lick a banana peel and if the peel turns blue then you are mkawran.
They are doing it, to the extent it’s available, as one of the experts was saying in an interview. Now that being said, in our dear lebanon, It was announced as available to distribute by a political party which is why it attracted criticism. Even said doctor ended his interview saying only take it if prescribed to you... and hence why I was saying they would have been better off donating to hospitals and the ministry, and why I support the ministry confiscating the meds in their possession...
Is the Pfizer Covid-19 being rushed? Here's the best answer I read on Quora so far.
"You bet ya it's being rushed. Every one of the 130 odd vaccine developments are being pushed through at a rate that 12 months ago would have been considered impossible to achieve.
However, the truncated development time has largely been achieved by huge increases in the allocation of resources; man, machine, money, as well as carefully considered streamlining of developmental methods.
This doesn't mean the processes haven't cut some corners. I read with interest answers to this question that insist no compromises to safety have taken place. This is simply untrue, and does nothing to assure people already sceptical about the vaccine, even the existence of Covid19, that they are getting the full unadulted story.
A notable and inarguable example is the granting by various governments of the emergency use of vaccines before the full approval processes can be completed.
This isn't the normal procedure and is not how new drugs are adopted for use. This shortcut inevitably presents some risk, and we need to acknowledge this and be transparent about it.
What we definately shouldn't be doing is ignoring or hiding this easily identified fact from people who need to be convinced that nothing is being hidden from them.
However, what also needs to be said is this risk is clearly and empirically understood, and when weighed up against the equally well understood devastating health risks, deaths, medical infrastructure overload and it's cascading effects and the economic turmoil that Covid 19 is wreaking on our global society, there is an overwhelming argument in favour of accepting these closely monitored and managed risks.
Mankind is facing its greatest existential threat since WWII. When faced with such an enormous challenge we have to accept that our norms and conventions are luxuries that cannot be entirely preserved. We have to be bold. We have to take risks. We simply have to accept that these are not normal times and they demand that we take extraordinary measures.
We also have to understand that this is not a basis for the outrageous claims by the anti-vaxers to boycott the covid 19 vaccine. This notion that anything short of an absolute 100% guarantee of safety and effectiveness of any vaccine means it must be rejected wholesale is monumentally ludicrous. And it's incredibly dangerous, and those making this claim are being mischievous at best, and often quite malicious As a scare tactic, it has the potential to thwart the global effort to eradicate Covid 19, and lead to the continuing death and destruction we are suffering at the moment.
These vaccines, as in life, do not come with absolute guarantees. On the other hand, as an alternative outcome, death is an absolute."
"You bet ya it's being rushed. Every one of the 130 odd vaccine developments are being pushed through at a rate that 12 months ago would have been considered impossible to achieve.
However, the truncated development time has largely been achieved by huge increases in the allocation of resources; man, machine, money, as well as carefully considered streamlining of developmental methods.
This doesn't mean the processes haven't cut some corners. I read with interest answers to this question that insist no compromises to safety have taken place. This is simply untrue, and does nothing to assure people already sceptical about the vaccine, even the existence of Covid19, that they are getting the full unadulted story.
A notable and inarguable example is the granting by various governments of the emergency use of vaccines before the full approval processes can be completed.
This isn't the normal procedure and is not how new drugs are adopted for use. This shortcut inevitably presents some risk, and we need to acknowledge this and be transparent about it.
What we definately shouldn't be doing is ignoring or hiding this easily identified fact from people who need to be convinced that nothing is being hidden from them.
However, what also needs to be said is this risk is clearly and empirically understood, and when weighed up against the equally well understood devastating health risks, deaths, medical infrastructure overload and it's cascading effects and the economic turmoil that Covid 19 is wreaking on our global society, there is an overwhelming argument in favour of accepting these closely monitored and managed risks.
Mankind is facing its greatest existential threat since WWII. When faced with such an enormous challenge we have to accept that our norms and conventions are luxuries that cannot be entirely preserved. We have to be bold. We have to take risks. We simply have to accept that these are not normal times and they demand that we take extraordinary measures.
We also have to understand that this is not a basis for the outrageous claims by the anti-vaxers to boycott the covid 19 vaccine. This notion that anything short of an absolute 100% guarantee of safety and effectiveness of any vaccine means it must be rejected wholesale is monumentally ludicrous. And it's incredibly dangerous, and those making this claim are being mischievous at best, and often quite malicious As a scare tactic, it has the potential to thwart the global effort to eradicate Covid 19, and lead to the continuing death and destruction we are suffering at the moment.
These vaccines, as in life, do not come with absolute guarantees. On the other hand, as an alternative outcome, death is an absolute."
CitizenOfTheRepublic
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Once again, Trump said both of these thing long before the scientist caught up with his genius!!! MAGA!!!!
Steven Gerrard
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where are those MAGA hats!!!
Steven Gerrard
Member
so far 58 million people got vaccinated worldwide
30% of Israel population got both dose of pfizer
where are those massive deaths that conspiracy theorists are claiming.
rushed? no, the mRNA technology has been in development for 20 years now and is Alan Whitley a virologist? epidemiologist? no he isn't, he is a senior stress consultant... LOL
CitizenOfTheRepublic
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Every single vaccine/drug/treatment/prevention has side effects/benefits. They all have a 1 in a million or some astronomically low very severe side effect occurrence. Maybe the math is not clear for some, 1 in a million risk with the vaccine vs. 1 in 1000 or 10000 with the disease itself. More than that, have it rampant in society or under control.
Take the smallpox vaccine, it is one of the most potent yet invented as it eradicated a very contagious disease (R0 as high as 6 compared to 3 for COVID) with 30% fatality rate. When I took the shot it melted my freaking skin and caused pain for more than a week. Others had far more severe reactions with some hospitalization required. The thing is though, when we took the vaccine we didn't just take it for ourselves we took it so you don't hear about infant dying from it or immuno-compromised individuals going to the hospital. This idea of sacrifice for the community is lost on a lot of people nowadays.
TayyarBeino
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TayyarBeino
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نشرت وزارة الصحة العامّة اليوم الجمعة، جدولاً بيّنت فيه كيف توزّعت الإصابات الجديدة بفيروس كورونا على الأقضية اللبنانية.
Of course it's rushed. And it's silly to assume no corners were cut.
The point is that pharma companies should be more honest about vaccine safety. It's NOT without its risks.
Is the vaccine key to stopping the pandemic? Yes, but it is up to the individual to decide whether the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks of side effects.
1 death is too many. People are not numbers.
The last time the government sought a ‘warp speed’ vaccine, it was a fiasco
Gerald Ford was president. It was 1976. Early that year, a mysterious new strain of swine flu turned up at Fort Dix in New Jersey. One Army private died. Many others became severely ill. The nation’s top infectious disease doctors were shaken.The CDC immediately went to work soliciting opinions from hundreds of infectious disease specialists from across the US. The consensus was that mass innoculations should start immediately.
President Ford agreed and the $137 million program began in early October. Within days it was apparent that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis, but can also be fatal.
And then more problems emerged. There were reports of sporadic deaths possibly connected to the vaccine. Cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome also emerged, and are still cited today by the anti-vaccine movement. Panic emerged, with dozens of states pausing vaccinations.
By December, following 94 reports of paralysis, the entire program was shut down.
TayyarBeino
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Throughout history, many vaccines were clinically approved, only to be proven to cause side effects later:
Cutter Incident - 1995
In 1955, some batches of polio vaccine given to the public contained live polio virus, even though they had passed required safety testing. Over 250 cases of polio were attributed to vaccines produced by one company: Cutter Laboratories. This case, which came to be known as the Cutter Incident, resulted in many cases of paralysis
Simian Virus 40 - 1955 - 1963
From 1955 to 1963, an estimated 10-30% of polio vaccines administered in the US were contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40).
Rotavirus Vaccine - 1998 - 1999
In 1998, the FDA approved RotaShield vaccine, the first vaccine to prevent rotavirus gastroenteritis. Shortly after it was licensed, some infants developed intussusception (rare type of bowel obstruction that occurs when the bowel folds in on itself) after being vaccinated.
www.cdc.gov
Cutter Incident - 1995
In 1955, some batches of polio vaccine given to the public contained live polio virus, even though they had passed required safety testing. Over 250 cases of polio were attributed to vaccines produced by one company: Cutter Laboratories. This case, which came to be known as the Cutter Incident, resulted in many cases of paralysis
Simian Virus 40 - 1955 - 1963
From 1955 to 1963, an estimated 10-30% of polio vaccines administered in the US were contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40).
Rotavirus Vaccine - 1998 - 1999
In 1998, the FDA approved RotaShield vaccine, the first vaccine to prevent rotavirus gastroenteritis. Shortly after it was licensed, some infants developed intussusception (rare type of bowel obstruction that occurs when the bowel folds in on itself) after being vaccinated.
Historical Safety Concerns | Vaccine Safety | CDC
Read more about past vaccine safety concerns, how they have been resolved, and what we have learned.
نشرت وزارة الصحة العامّة اليوم الجمعة، جدولاً بيّنت فيه كيف توزّعت الإصابات الجديدة بفيروس كورونا على الأقضية اللبنانية.
Hey @SoFP1 look the United Kingdom is doing worse than the US in both infections and mortality rates.
Didn't I tell you so?
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