Al Yawmul Quds Al Alami - International Quds (Jerusalem) Day

Rafidi

Rafidi

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Good luck bass could you please make them cross from the Syrian, Egyptian or Jordanian border instead? Their right to liberate their land or not, ma khassna nesta3mel our border.
Your opinion is well noted. However, Palestine does concern us a lot. Having a foreign enemy that keeps promising to take us back to the Stone Age is not something anyone would fancy. Therefore, its absence would be very much welcome.
 
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    AtheistForYeezus

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    Both Palestine and Israel were created by the British Mandate.
    Arabs rejected the UN partition plan and invaded Israel, eventually losing all their wars and some territory in the process.

    The rest is history. Bunch of sore losers.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    Both Palestine and Israel were created by the British Mandate.
    Arabs rejected the UN partition plan and invaded Israel, eventually losing all their wars and some territory in the process.

    The rest is history. Bunch of sore losers.
    easy now, we dont want you to get a migraine this early in the morning
     
    Ice Tea

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    Let’s say hezballah liberates quds tomorrow. I give it a year before the Sunnis ban Shiites from visiting it w y2abbro baad

    If Muslim Arabs ever take control of Jerusalem and the Holy Land again (which they won't, since God is with the Jews), they'd turn it into an apartheid state that only muslims can enter, like Mecca. Thank God Jews reclaimed their ancestral lands and now people from all over the world and religions can visit. Muslims already have Mecca/Medina and all the cities they stole from Christians like Constantinople, Antioch and Alexandria. They believe history started with the barbaric invasion in the 7th century and are entitled to everything. But nope, Jerusalem and the Holy Land.. they'll never have again.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    If Muslim Arabs ever take control of Jerusalem and the Holy Land again (which they won't, since God is with the Jews), they'd turn it into an apartheid state that only muslims can enter, like Mecca. Thank God Jews reclaimed their ancestral lands and now people from all over the world and religions can visit. Muslims already have Mecca/Medina and all the cities they stole from Christians like Constantinople, Antioch and Alexandria. They believe history started with the barbaric invasion in the 7th century and are entitled to everything. But nope, Jerusalem and the Holy Land.. they'll never have again.
    Jerusalem existed and was inhabited before Judaism existed and before the Israelites became an identity group.

    Muslims ruled Palestine for over a 1000 years and the rights of Jews were restored, unlike the treatment they faced in Roman times.

    Europeans are not Palestinians even if they practice Judaism.

    White settler colonialism should be opposed by all. What we see in Palestine is abuse of human rights and segregation, and racism imposed by an apartheid regime. Israehell is an archaic reality that doesnt belong to a modern, progressive and humane world, where the rights of the human being are scared.
     
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    Christians in Israel are fine. Way better than those in Iran and Egypt.
    This above is mostly cherry-picking and false-contexting to build a persecution narrative.
     
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    What exactly is "Quds"? It doesn't exist on my map. The only Holy land is Mt Lebanon. Especially the Cedar area of the Chouf.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Spokesman of Neturei Karta International Rabbie Dovid Weiss

    72 years have passed since the Israeli regime’s occupation of the Palestinian lands; where is the regime standing today in terms of identity as well as the political and social status?

    Dovid Weiss:
    Before I answer the question I'd like to state our viewpoint as traditionally Orthodox Jews. We oppose Zionism because it is an anti-Jewish philosophy of building a sovereign homeland for Jews while in a divinely decreed exile, which is forbidden by the Jewish religion. Also, this homeland was established in Palestine by committing all kinds of crimes against its people, which is a violation of Jewish religious laws towards fellow human beings. We don't support “two states for two peoples”; we support the return of the entire land to the Palestinian people. We believe that peaceful non-militant Jews will be able to live under a Palestinian state in peace.

    During the 72 years of occupation, there have been different phases, from wars with neighboring countries to negotiations with Palestinians with the goal of a two-state solution (of course these negotiations were never meant to lead anywhere, and at the same time the Zionists built more and more settlements). With the future of two states completely undermined, we will be seeing more of a push for one democratic state, in which Jews will soon be a minority. The Israelis know this and that is why Netanyahu and his party have been passing laws to declare Israel the nation-state of the Jewish people. Of course, this is ridiculous because he can't claim to represent Judaism or the Jewish people, whether they reside in or out of their state.

    What do the current political crises and rifts among the Israeli authorities, as well as the regime’s undermined security, suggest?

    Dovid Weiss:
    First let’s not forget what the Almighty states in the holy Torah: “Why do you transgress the word of the Almighty? It will not be successful!” (Numbers 14:41). Going against the Torah’s command by forming a Jewish state and/or oppressing others, will not succeed in the end.

    Part of the rift in politics is over the drafting of religious Jews into the army. All the secular parties are determined to draft the religious; their dispute is over whether to do it by force or to "accustom" them to it slowly. The religious have always refused to serve in the army because they are opposed to the state and its wars. There have been constant protests over this subject, and we have appealed to the UN.

    As I said earlier, the Torah view is opposed to all the Israeli political parties and to the state as a whole. Our communities living in the Holy Land refuse to take any part in the State of Israel and constantly protest its illegal existence and the crimes it commits. We promote that the illegal occupation should be speedily and peacefully dismantled in its entirety.

    Based on the available data on the US and Britain’s arms and financial support to the Israelis, how do you see the role of Washington and London in the formation and realization of the Zionist regime?

    Dovid Weiss:
    Unfortunately, the Zionists have succeeded in getting many countries to support them. They misused the Holocaust and the long history of anti-Jewish persecution to convince people that Jews need their own state. This is what gave them the ability to establish their state and keep it going with world support to this day while ignoring the position of authentic religious Jews in the Holy Land and around the world. We hope that this false narrative won’t be accepted much longer, but rather the world will see the truth and end the support for this unacceptable criminal State. This, with the help of the Almighty, will certainly help and accelerate the end of the occupation, speedily and peacefully.

    The Israeli regime has been struggling to repel the Palestinians’ and Lebanese’ resistance movement in the past years; have the Zionists been successful in this regard? And will these efforts help Tel Aviv survive?

    Dovid Weiss:
    They have been unfortunately partially successful militarily, so to say, inflicting terrible casualties and damage. But they will never be able to stop the liberation of the Palestinian people and enjoy a truly successful occupation. They will never reach true success in their rebellion against the Almighty, as mentioned above.

    Let us look at the recent history of the Palestinian people. What other people have been exiled for so long and still maintains refugee status, and (on the whole) refuses to accept citizenship or a comfortable life anywhere else? From a religious Jewish point of view, seeing the hand of the Almighty in world events, the Palestinian's steadfast resolve shows that the Almighty is not letting the Zionists succeed. This is because of the same verse in the Torah I quoted earlier (question 2): rebellion against the Almighty will not succeed.

    The normalization process of Arab-Israeli ties has been accelerated in recent years, and they are not hiding it anymore; what are the main reasons behind such measures by the Israeli regime?

    Dovid Weiss:
    We can't comment, nor do we know, the Zionist political motives. But it is clear that one benefit to them is to make peace with one part of the Arab and Muslim world at a time so that they don't have everyone against them at once.

    The US moved its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem al-Quds in 2017; how much did this measure favor the legalization process of the Zionist regime?

    Dovid Weiss:
    We feel that the moving of the embassy was a tragic move. It does give the Zionist regime a feeling of impunity that it can now proceed to annex more and more land and get the American rubber stamp. But many Americans are not happy with this and it can eventually be reversed if enough Americans become aware of the injustice.

     
    Muki

    Muki

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    SHN claimed years ago that Jerusalem will be liberated in our generation. How do you picture this coming to fruition? A coordinated invasion by the Iranian axis factions or fi shi gher plan? I'm asking because i can't see it happening.
    He's saying it so folks like Rafidi can get riled up. In other words, he's lying to them. Basically torturing them mentally.
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    PALESTINE WILL BE FREE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA

    Say it louder maybe it'll come true 😂.

    We will liberate Judea and Samaria next. In fact, the process has already started. You can tell because the Palestinians have their panties up in a bunch these days.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Say it louder maybe it'll come true 😂.

    We will liberate Judea and Samaria next. In fact, the process has already started. You can tell because the Palestinians have their panties up in a bunch.
    El 7a2 ma bi moot.
     
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