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Ashura - Commemoration of Imam Hussain's (as) Martyrdom

NewLeb

NewLeb

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ashoura is just a.battle.like any battle happened along the history.. and in the battles people die and persons get killed..
No, that’s not true at all. The Shiite thought was threatened to be completely extinguished in that battle. This is about identity, this is about Truth, while most other human conflicts in mankind have been about purely worldly matters.

This is why even though a Shiite may claim to be a an atheist or whatever, he’ll nevertheless always be a Shiite. Too many people have died in defending the Shiite thought, an identity that has been cemented within the human subconscious for centuries!
 
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  • SAVO

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    No, that’s not true at all. The Shiite thought was threatened to be completely extinguished in that battle. This is about identity, this is about Truth, while most other human conflicts in mankind have been about purely worldly matters.

    This is why even though a Shiite may claim to be a an atheist or whatever, he’ll nevertheless always be a Shiite. Too many people have died in defending the Shiite thought, an identity that has been cemented within the human subconscious for centuries!
    the story of karbala is a normal battle for me ..
    in the nordic mythology each battle could be considered a way more than karbala , where sons of ODIN fight till death and afther death they go to Valhalla .. in the reign of Asgaard , the house of gods .. waiting for the Ragnarok and the final Battle -


     
    Steven Gerrard

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    ashoura is just a.battle.like any battle happened along the history.. and in the battles people die and persons get killed..

    for me the killing of Hussein mrouwé is way more ciminal than ashoura. because he was a messenger of peace and progress..

    "wayl li omma taqtol mofakeriha "
    Ashura is not a battle.
     
    NewLeb

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    Ashoura helps us better understand the Sunni-Shiite dichotomy.

    I’d like to think that Sunni Islam is more “right-wing,” which explains geopolitical alliances between Nazi Germany and the Ottomans; or the friendly relations between Trump and the Gulf (and other Sunni states). Sunni Islam is more oriented towards legalistic and traditional forms of Islam, which explains the emergence of takfiri groups that look down on “impure” forms of Islam.

    Shiite Islam tends to be more leftist (for lack of a better word). This is why Shiite Islam has historically been more “open” to minorities, especially the black community. Shiites also engage in activities that are more aligned with the emotional and “down to earth” nature of mankind.

    We can see the effects of these sectarian nuances today, both good and bad. Sunnis generally tend to be more uptight, given their more austere tradition. However, they are better at generating wealth and building stable and safe work environments.

    Shiites happen to be more aligned with the non-material aspects of the world. Indeed, there is a good reason why no matter how wealthy Shiite families or states become, they’re always nevertheless somewhat lacking in terms of general hygiene and cleanliness. This isn’t to say that they’re inherently dirty, but like Black Americans, they weren’t always raised in an environment where stuff like that came first.

    That’s mostly what I can think of so far.
     
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    Steven Gerrard

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    Ashoura helps us better understand the Sunni-Shiite dichotomy.

    I’d like to think that Sunni Islam is more “right-wing,” which explains geopolitical alliances between Nazi Germany and the Ottomans; or the friendly relations between Trump and the Gulf (and other Sunni states). Sunni Islam is more oriented towards legalistic and traditional forms of Islam, which explains the emergence of takfiri groups that look down on “impure” forms of Islam.

    Shiite Islam tends to be more leftist (for lack of a better word). This is why Shiite Islam has historically been more “open” to minorities, especially the black community. Shiites also engage in activities that are more aligned with the emotional and “down to earth” nature of mankind.

    We can see the effects of these sectarian nuances today, both good and bad. Sunnis generally tend to be more uptight, given their more austere tradition. However, they are better at generating wealth and building stable and safe work environments.

    Shiites happen to be more aligned with the non-material aspects of the world. Indeed, there is a good reason why no matter how wealthy Shiite families or states become, they’re always nevertheless somewhat lacking in terms of general hygiene and cleanliness. This isn’t to say that they’re inherently dirty, but like Black Americans, they weren’t always raised in an environment where stuff like that came first.

    That’s mostly what I can think of so far.
     
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