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Caesar Act and the Novel Weapon of Mass Starvation adopted by Nations against Nations.

Lebanon’s famine

  • Self Inflicted

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • Imposed by the US

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Imposed and Self Inflicted

    Votes: 5 50.0%
  • God punishing stupid people betraying their country

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Viral

Active Member
Who is causing Lebanon’s famine? Why and by what right?

Remembering the recent times when the Lebanese were getting warmed up and so excited to participate in rebuilding Syria and getting rich…

Up until the Lebanese banks started closing their doors to their customers following October 17th 2019, most Lebanese had bank accounts and access to their monies.

By now we know as early as August 2019, Riad Salameh’s Central Bank had already started pimping local banks like “Société Générale” to remove hard currencies mainly US dollars from public hands in exchange for freshly printed LL with grossly unrealistic high interest rate returns. Obvious Mr. Salameh was aware his scheme was an unsustainable bubble.

A peculiar picture became noticeable when US treasury envoys started visiting Beirut more frequently to meet with Mr. Salameh before and after the so called “Spontaneous Revolution”. One question comes to mind: As Central Bank governor is Mr. Salameh truly independent and free to make the best financial and monetary decisions for Lebanon and its peoples without foreign interference?

US financial auditors get access to every bank account in Lebanon supposedly to identify and prohibit money laundering and corruption yet they failed to notice the looted billions of dollars being transferred systematically outside the country before and after Oct. 17th.

Could those corrupt politicians behind their local networks been not only encouraged and protected to rob the country’s wealth but also directed to transfer their capitals abroad to force local currency devaluation as a tool to starve the people and cause civil unrest? Even banks own hard currency corporate accounts have been transferred abroad to foreign save havens.

Is it also a coincidence now that Lebanon is getting ready to reopen the airport, such an aggressive misleading campaign is underway with the intention to frighten and discourage returning Lebanese from bringing badly needed fresh dollars home by telling them their dollars will be confiscated upon arrival?

Mr. Salameh controlled and stabilized the LL for decades in spite of corruption and looting that proved none the less to coexist with functioning economy as long as the looted wealth remained in the country’s financial and economic system regardless of who owns it and, as long as there is trust in the Lebanese banking system (that survived 15 years of civil war); it has been business as usual for the local currency to hold its value and for locals to enjoy stable cost of living so long expatriates were sending money home, retirees transferring personal wealth to retire in their motherland and tourism staying healthy. That’s how Lebanon prospered for all those years; the Virgin Islands are no different…

So what’s happening now? What happened to Mr. Salameh financial engineering? Did he lose his magical powers to protect the LL overnight or is he the one manipulating its value by orders from above?

Is it a coincidence Lebanese and Syrian currencies started losing value simultaneously? Does “Caesar Act” which is considered illegal by International laws have something to do with Lebanon’s sudden economic meltdown leading to its collective famine?

Needless to say, about $27b deposited in Lebanon’s banks belong to Syrian nationals who are not necessarily pro Syrian regime but can certainly help the Syrian people rebuilding their country. In the meantime many Lebanese investors were looking forward to benefit from such opportunities. Instead they are finding themselves in the wrong place wrong time.

Under Caesar Act Lebanon’s miserable role is to act like a cork to seal the Syrian bottle regardless of the welfare of all Lebanese people “good” or “bad”. Ironically, Hezbollah is the last/least group to be affected since they don’t own bank accounts and their actual dollars becoming the envy of those who trusted the system and their Western allies.

Incidentally, Caesar Act must have been inspired by Lebanon’s notorious “Baltajiey”. Just like no entrepreneur in Lebanon can get a venture or factory approved to build or manufacture consumer goods unless Jumblatt, Frangieh or Berri are made business partners without investing a penny thanks to their well positioned ministers in governments over the past 30 years, Trump’s role under Caesar Act in Syria is somewhat identical. As President, he is given exclusive rights to remove any restriction against entities that want to do business in Syria as he chooses. In other words, if Syria chose to hire only American companies to rebuild which is Trump’s specialty BTW, Caesar Act fades away and remains only a shadow or a threatening tool in the background as it has been for a while until now.

Needless to say, Caesar Act is aimed mainly against Russian, Chinese and Iranian companies hoping to do business in Syria. If human rights were really Trump’s passion, he wouldn’t be enjoying special relationship with MBS. Even Israel, Trump’s closest ally has been seriously warned about Chinese contracts. Germany warned about the gas pipeline with Russia, Turkey was punished with currency devaluation for buying military equipments from Russia, EU and Australia forbidden to take advantage of Huawei superior 5G networks and the list goes on.

As far as Lebanon’s situation goes, there is no telling how far this experiment of mass starvation against a pro Western country like Lebanon executed precisely by the West will go on. Notably, David Schenker followed by Mike Pompeo and now Dorothy Shea took the time to reply to SHN latest speech signaling that their administration concerns about their allies losing faith in them is becoming real.

There is no doubt when desperation hits bottom which is not far away, no one will be able to stop a population having nothing to lose from blasting through barriers and borders across into Syria systematically. And once Eastern and Southern Lebanon opens up with Syria and start enjoying 24 hours electricity and their produce finds its markets eastbound as well as exporting construction/building material with jobs opportunities for the Lebanese, by then the new reality sinks in and becomes irreversible.

A new world order is in the making. Covid-19 has accelerated its evolvement. Those chasing the USD for salvation might be in for a very deceiving surprise. Going east is not as risky as we are lead to believe. There is a herd of Genies already out of their bottles…

Here is a hint:

Here is a reminder:
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dyyyy

Well-Known Member
A couple of notes:
- The way the west kept control over the country is by keeping it dependent on debt. (This is why we always lived in country running from Paris 1 to Paris 2, .... )

- We spent 30 years where the remittance money and people's deposits where used for corruption, landlord control and abolishing any sort of production in Lebanon, Keeping the dollar at 1500 was too expensive and it was going to blow one day (and it did)

- What's happening now was predictable from more than 10 years ago, FPM brought Charbel Nahas in 2009 for this specific issue.
In fact if you hear Charbel Nahas speeches from 10 years ago you see he was right all along.

- If the PEG was removed in 2016 and the dollar was raised to 3000, noone would have lost any of his savings.

- The government has full control over Riad Salemeh's decisions but his decisions were tempting to them.
the "financial engineering" scheme was voted on by the whole previous government which includes all parties (FPM, FM, LF, PSP, Amal, HA, ....)
They knew that they were "lending" people's deposits and the state wasn't able to return back the money but they did it anyway because it allowed to hire their people and fund their own projects.

- All parties in Lebanon (again FPM, FM, LF, PSP, Amal, HA, ....) are complicit with the banks (not just Riad Salemeh ) what SGBL, and every other bank did was in front of the eyes of all parties.

- When the banks started refusing giving people their money, it was an illegal act and yet every single party turned the blind eye and acted surprised.

- Every party leader who was shouting about money being transferred abroad and about "i3adit al amwal almanhoube" was lying to our faces because they waited a whole 6 month to enact an official capital control -> which means everyone who transferred money abroad do it legally thanks to those parties

- Even when the capital control was enacted, it gave the banks full control to decide who can transfer money abroad and who cannot

- There are several actions that can be taken now to slow things down, but this inaction and the statu quo benefits the banks because they won't have to take the loss of their investment, after making huge profits from it (the banks were paid 25% interest of front from the state loan) and now that the state can't pay them back, they want the depositors to pay -> the depositors are paying by being obliged to retrieve their dollar deposits at the rate of 3000 and 1500.


Bottom line : The west tempted Lebanon to live by debt, and everything else was done (and was preventable) from our own leaders, the US is taking advantage of the situation to put the people in front of HA, but HA, FPM, LF, Amal, Hariri..... every single one is responsible for why we're here now and every single one is stalling and refusing to take action so that the banks can get away with what they've done.
 

shadow1

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
When you put sentimentality aside and take a reasonable look at the whole situation, the once affluent (and now poor and wretched) Lebanese middle class, if it had an iota of gratitude, should erect a statue for Ryad Salameh in every street corner. The guy fixed the currency on borrowed money so the once affluent and now miserable middle class could jet set around the globe, enjoy the finest luxury items when the country's productivity could not even afford the made in Somalia goods. Salameh let them live the dream and living it they did. It couldve gone on for much longer had the greed of politicians and their cronies known any boundaries. Alas it didn't and now the country is wrecked beyond repair. Its only friends are Iran and Venezuella, Syria and North Korea and perhaps the Houthis in Yemen. All competing for the most mireable nation on earth title.

If I were in government atm I would abolish all governemnt departments immediately and keep one minsirty and half of another: The minstry of charitable affairs to administer the distribution of I3ashat from donor NGO's around the globe and the police force to try to maintain a semblance of order between people standing in mile long lines to receive their rations of sugar and flour, sardine and cooking oil so they wont be killing each other. The rest of givernment is now redundant whether there is a conspiracy to impovrish the people or not. No conspiracy to destroy Lebanon is needed. It has its people and the elected officials bikaffou w bi waffou.

The game is over and like every game there are winners and losers. The winners are the ones you voted for and losers are the ones who voted for them.
 
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Iron Maiden

Paragon of Bacon
Orange Room Supporter
Who is causing Lebanon’s famine? Why and by what right?

Remembering the recent times when the Lebanese were getting warmed up and so excited to participate in rebuilding Syria and getting rich…

Up until the Lebanese banks started closing their doors to their customers following October 17th 2019, most Lebanese had bank accounts and access to their monies.

By now we know as early as August 2019, Riad Salameh’s Central Bank had already started pimping local banks like “Société Générale” to remove hard currencies mainly US dollars from public hands in exchange for freshly printed LL with grossly unrealistic high interest rate returns. Obvious Mr. Salameh was aware his scheme was an unsustainable bubble.

A peculiar picture became noticeable when US treasury envoys started visiting Beirut more frequently to meet with Mr. Salameh before and after the so called “Spontaneous Revolution”. One question comes to mind: As Central Bank governor is Mr. Salameh truly independent and free to make the best financial and monetary decisions for Lebanon and its peoples without foreign interference?

US financial auditors get access to every bank account in Lebanon supposedly to identify and prohibit money laundering and corruption yet they failed to notice the looted billions of dollars being transferred systematically outside the country before and after Oct. 17th.

Could those corrupt politicians behind their local networks been not only encouraged and protected to rob the country’s wealth but also directed to transfer their capitals abroad to force local currency devaluation as a tool to starve the people and cause civil unrest? Even banks own hard currency corporate accounts have been transferred abroad to foreign save havens.

Is it also a coincidence now that Lebanon is getting ready to reopen the airport, such an aggressive misleading campaign is underway with the intention to frighten and discourage returning Lebanese from bringing badly needed fresh dollars home by telling them their dollars will be confiscated upon arrival?

Mr. Salameh controlled and stabilized the LL for decades in spite of corruption and looting that proved none the less to coexist with functioning economy as long as the looted wealth remained in the country’s financial and economic system regardless of who owns it and, as long as there is trust in the Lebanese banking system (that survived 15 years of civil war); it has been business as usual for the local currency to hold its value and for locals to enjoy stable cost of living so long expatriates were sending money home, retirees transferring personal wealth to retire in their motherland and tourism staying healthy. That’s how Lebanon prospered for all those years; the Virgin Islands are no different…

So what’s happening now? What happened to Mr. Salameh financial engineering? Did he lose his magical powers to protect the LL overnight or is he the one manipulating its value by orders from above?

Is it a coincidence Lebanese and Syrian currencies started losing value simultaneously? Does “Caesar Act” which is considered illegal by International laws have something to do with Lebanon’s sudden economic meltdown leading to its collective famine?

Needless to say, about $27b deposited in Lebanon’s banks belong to Syrian nationals who are not necessarily pro Syrian regime but can certainly help the Syrian people rebuilding their country. In the meantime many Lebanese investors were looking forward to benefit from such opportunities. Instead they are finding themselves in the wrong place wrong time.

Under Caesar Act Lebanon’s miserable role is to act like a cork to seal the Syrian bottle regardless of the welfare of all Lebanese people “good” or “bad”. Ironically, Hezbollah is the last/least group to be affected since they don’t own bank accounts and their actual dollars becoming the envy of those who trusted the system and their Western allies.

Incidentally, Caesar Act must have been inspired by Lebanon’s notorious “Baltajiey”. Just like no entrepreneur in Lebanon can get a venture or factory approved to build or manufacture consumer goods unless Jumblatt, Frangieh or Berri are made business partners without investing a penny thanks to their well positioned ministers in governments over the past 30 years, Trump’s role under Caesar Act in Syria is somewhat identical. As President, he is given exclusive rights to remove any restriction against entities that want to do business in Syria as he chooses. In other words, if Syria chose to hire only American companies to rebuild which is Trump’s specialty BTW, Caesar Act fades away and remains only a shadow or a threatening tool in the background as it has been for a while until now.

Needless to say, Caesar Act is aimed mainly against Russian, Chinese and Iranian companies hoping to do business in Syria. If human rights were really Trump’s passion, he wouldn’t be enjoying special relationship with MBS. Even Israel, Trump’s closest ally has been seriously warned about Chinese contracts. Germany warned about the gas pipeline with Russia, Turkey was punished with currency devaluation for buying military equipments from Russia, EU and Australia forbidden to take advantage of Huawei superior 5G networks and the list goes on.

As far as Lebanon’s situation goes, there is no telling how far this experiment of mass starvation against a pro Western country like Lebanon executed precisely by the West will go on. Notably, David Schenker followed by Mike Pompeo and now Dorothy Shea took the time to reply to SHN latest speech signaling that their administration concerns about their allies losing faith in them is becoming real.

There is no doubt when desperation hits bottom which is not far away, no one will be able to stop a population having nothing to lose from blasting through barriers and borders across into Syria systematically. And once Eastern and Southern Lebanon opens up with Syria and start enjoying 24 hours electricity and their produce finds its markets eastbound as well as exporting construction/building material with jobs opportunities for the Lebanese, by then the new reality sinks in and becomes irreversible.

A new world order is in the making. Covid-19 has accelerated its evolvement. Those chasing the USD for salvation might be in for a very deceiving surprise. Going east is not as risky as we are lead to believe. There is a herd of Genies already out of their bottles…

Here is a hint:

Here is a reminder:
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the political class is causing the starvation in lebanon, from HA’s very narrow and shallow approaches to fpm’s ballessness on certain dossiers to hariri’s disastrous evonomic policies to the banks bankrolling most political parties to the media being a tool of propaganda instead of truth. why is salameh still head of bdl, noone can answer you, not even shn can tell you because they are knee deep in shit with him

hej ba2a ceaser act w mawt la amrika, why are we so surprised that the usa outsmarted is?? they saw our weaknesses and exploited them to further their agendas, just like every civilization has done for the pat 16000 years.
 

latinorange

Well-Known Member
Lebanon's economy was bankrupt long before its financial sector went down. So i don't know why such a shock. In fact, high interest rates, fashion brands and opulent lifestyles were all fake. We lived a useless dream and now things must be brought back on the right track. The west will continue to put pressure on Lebanon as long as we don't pull down our pants and bend down for them to *** us. Unless we plan to do that, we can only start building a real economy, dump the USD and start working on LL. Follow the Iranian model but with a creative and innovative twist. Purchase only locally produced goods, forget imports of commodities and limit them to basic goods. Build ties with third party suppliers away from USD based economies. Start setting up small workshops and get raw materials in neighboring countries. Develop black market capabilities and sell weed to the west. Come up with creative payment agreements. It's not the end of the world.
 

NewLeb

Member
Lebanon's economy was bankrupt long before its financial sector went down. So i don't know why such a shock. In fact, high interest rates, fashion brands and opulent lifestyles were all fake. We lived a useless dream and now things must be brought back on the right track. The west will continue to put pressure on Lebanon as long as we don't pull down our pants and bend down for them to *** us. Unless we plan to do that, we can only start building a real economy, dump the USD and start working on LL. Follow the Iranian model but with a creative and innovative twist. Purchase only locally produced goods, forget imports of commodities and limit them to basic goods. Build ties with third party suppliers away from USD based economies. Start setting up small workshops and get raw materials in neighboring countries. Develop black market capabilities and sell weed to the west. Come up with creative payment agreements. It's not the end of the world.

In other words, become another third-world craphole like Venezuela; but that’s okay because we’re giving the West the finger, which makes us feel special inside....
 

GrumpForTrump

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
the political class is causing the starvation in lebanon, from HA’s very narrow and shallow approaches to fpm’s ballessness on certain dossiers to hariri’s disastrous evonomic policies to the banks bankrolling most political parties to the media being a tool of propaganda instead of truth. why is salameh still head of bdl, noone can answer you, not even shn can tell you because they are knee deep in shit with him

hej ba2a ceaser act w mawt la amrika, why are we so surprised that the usa outsmarted is?? they saw our weaknesses and exploited them to further their agendas, just like every civilization has done for the pat 16000 years.

If you believe "that FPM's ballessness is causing the starvation" why do you get up in arms when someone blames the current crisis on FPM's inaction?

PS: There's no need to refer to Hassan Nasrallah as "SHN". Byeswa 250 L.L. at the current exchange rate.
 

Viral

Active Member
Lebanon's economy was bankrupt long before its financial sector went down. So i don't know why such a shock. In fact, high interest rates, fashion brands and opulent lifestyles were all fake. We lived a useless dream and now things must be brought back on the right track. The west will continue to put pressure on Lebanon as long as we don't pull down our pants and bend down for them to *** us. Unless we plan to do that, we can only start building a real economy, dump the USD and start working on LL. Follow the Iranian model but with a creative and innovative twist. Purchase only locally produced goods, forget imports of commodities and limit them to basic goods. Build ties with third party suppliers away from USD based economies. Start setting up small workshops and get raw materials in neighboring countries. Develop black market capabilities and sell weed to the west. Come up with creative payment agreements. It's not the end of the world.
I can’t agree more!
I heard it before from older people that the Lebanese in general lack discipline to rule themselves. Unfortunately that is so true! I hate to say it but the Lebanese were better off under the Syrian occupation than after it.
During the past 30 years of “independence” they were inviting trouble by making themselves extremely vulnerable at the mercy of others.
The Lebanese need to evolve and earn their living in a more honest way instead of acting like prostitutes pleasing anyone with money for handouts and believing they are the smarter ones.
The Lebanese need to learn the meaning of pride and patriotism.
From the above reply, they must be far from achieving such goals. Sadly, more famine is needed for them to learn…
 

GrumpForTrump

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I can’t agree more!
I heard it before from older people that the Lebanese in general lack discipline to rule themselves. Unfortunately that is so true! I hate to say it but the Lebanese were better off under the Syrian occupation than after it.
During the past 30 years of “independence” they were inviting trouble by making themselves extremely vulnerable at the mercy of others.
The Lebanese need to evolve and earn their living in a more honest way instead of acting like prostitutes pleasing anyone with money for handouts and believing they are the smarter ones.
The Lebanese need to learn the meaning of pride and patriotism.
From the above reply, they must be far from achieving such goals. Sadly, more famine is needed for them to learn…

Nope. It's simply because Muslims have been ruling the country since 1990.
First with the help of the Syrians, and now with the help of Iran.

Since Muslims constitute the majority now, you can kiss Lebanon goodbye...

And lol @"God punishing stupid people betraying their country" Btejeh ahbal 7adertak?
 

Iron Maiden

Paragon of Bacon
Orange Room Supporter
If you believe "that FPM's ballessness is causing the starvation" why do you get up in arms when someone blames the current crisis on FPM's inaction?

PS: There's no need to refer to Hassan Nasrallah as "SHN". Byeswa 250 L.L. at the current exchange rate.
because i am not trolling 🙃
 

latinorange

Well-Known Member
In other words, become another third-world craphole like Venezuela; but that’s okay because we’re giving the West the finger, which makes us feel special inside....

No dude. Weve been a craphole for decades. You lived on leftovers and were happy about it. See, in Europe all countries are now nagging cz 20 years ago they outsourced manufacturing to Asia and spent billions investing in culture n services. Now many countries couldnt even get access to ventilators. There are alternatives to pulling down ur pants. We are small and dont need many resources. Start manufacturing and give up buying other countries crap. Weve got talent and creativity. Weve got weed n olive oil n fruits n potatoes n apples. Start exporting seriously to get fresh USD if you need them. Move ur asses n go offer ur fruits n veggies to Russians at low rates. Go buy cereal n ukraine and sell them weed instead. Allow chinese to build a naval base n trablous n sell ur wines to indians. The west is doomed. Times are changing
 

Robin Hood

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I can’t agree more!
I heard it before from older people that the Lebanese in general lack discipline to rule themselves. Unfortunately that is so true! I hate to say it but the Lebanese were better off under the Syrian occupation than after it.
During the past 30 years of “independence” they were inviting trouble by making themselves extremely vulnerable at the mercy of others.
The Lebanese need to evolve and earn their living in a more honest way instead of acting like prostitutes pleasing anyone with money for handouts and believing they are the smarter ones.
The Lebanese need to learn the meaning of pride and patriotism.
From the above reply, they must be far from achieving such goals. Sadly, more famine is needed for them to learn…
We should have kept the French

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latinorange

Well-Known Member
Since 2-3 years ago we have been hearing about Iran and other countries wanting to offer help to Lebanon. All efforts were blocked. Now the economy was left to fall apart and the west didnt move a finger to help. Al
We should have kept the French

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The french are nasty and hard to handle but i have to agree. Anyway Lebanon is changing fast. The world is too anyway.
 

الحج موكي

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Lebanon's economy was bankrupt long before its financial sector went down. So i don't know why such a shock. In fact, high interest rates, fashion brands and opulent lifestyles were all fake. We lived a useless dream and now things must be brought back on the right track. The west will continue to put pressure on Lebanon as long as we don't pull down our pants and bend down for them to *** us. Unless we plan to do that, we can only start building a real economy, dump the USD and start working on LL. Follow the Iranian model but with a creative and innovative twist. Purchase only locally produced goods, forget imports of commodities and limit them to basic goods. Build ties with third party suppliers away from USD based economies. Start setting up small workshops and get raw materials in neighboring countries. Develop black market capabilities and sell weed to the west. Come up with creative payment agreements. It's not the end of the world.

Genius plan! How come no one thought of it yet?
 

NewLeb

Member
No dude. Weve been a craphole for decades. You lived on leftovers and were happy about it. See, in Europe all countries are now nagging cz 20 years ago they outsourced manufacturing to Asia and spent billions investing in culture n services. Now many countries couldnt even get access to ventilators. There are alternatives to pulling down ur pants. We are small and dont need many resources. Start manufacturing and give up buying other countries crap. Weve got talent and creativity. Weve got weed n olive oil n fruits n potatoes n apples. Start exporting seriously to get fresh USD if you need them. Move ur asses n go offer ur fruits n veggies to Russians at low rates. Go buy cereal n ukraine and sell them weed instead. Allow chinese to build a naval base n trablous n sell ur wines to indians. The west is doomed. Times are changing

Wow, you’ve got weed and apples! I’m sure all that economic innovation will get you places.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the West doesn't look like it’s doomed anymore. Maybe several ago, when it was still in an extremely naiive state, but not in the present moment. The pandemic has awoken the West to the dangers of being reliant on countries like China, and Trump winning in November will ensure Western dominance for another several centuries.

No, we can’t allow Lebanon to turn into another communist crap-hole ruled by dirty hippies who thrive on drugs and poverty. It’s too important for that....
 
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