I never mentioned Christ. Besides, pot calling the kettle black eh? You have the most arrogant holier-than-thou attitude on this forum. Literally every post of yours is you lecturing other people who they're a bunch of yokels.
I bet you that die hard theists would rather follow an evil God than acknowledge he doesnβt exist. In a sort of way thatβs what they do now. They simply whitewash his sadistic nature and sugarcoat the obvious immorality of abrahamic theology. Itβs elementary psychology; insecurity can lead to self deception as a way to cope with it, which in turn, can lead to irrational beliefs. That insecurity derives from fear of death, suffering, and the unknown. Our survival instinct is stubborn in the face of mortality. In contradiction to nature, we want to believe that life goes on indefinitely. Since we failed to defy Father Time, we constructed delusions of grandeur and the belief of an indomitable caretaker waiting for us in greener pastures on the other side. A script in the making for a twilight zone episode.
I'm a theist / deist btw... I'm just very doubtful of an existence of a good or perosnal God. It feels to me that there is some power in the universe that does maintain some order or reflect in us through consciousness and intelligence. But I can't put my finger on it. And it's absurd to make it some high monarch or some loving father. I
legitimate questions... true
Don't you think your intelligence and consciousness are the result of biological processes in your brain? Is it really necessary to have some external intelligent power reflect in you or other primates? What of other living organisms like ants, bacteria, lizards... Are you sure there is order in our universe, or could it be just the illusion of order? After all, we evolved to this world, not the other way round.
Well there's an argument to be made there. But I'm not convinced in neo-Darwinian materialism as Dennett's "Consciousness explained" which tries to explain away consciousness as illusions of a biological process. There's more to human consciousness than there is to ants and lizards (although they do have some of our experiences). We can invent and experience life on a greater scale and have a personality. And we do not even begin to understand how that really works.
Unfortunately I have very little time to be on this site. The quickest way I can think of explaining my point is as follows. If you watch a movie or read a novel, a fictitious story, even if it is completely fantasy, the rules of the fictitious universe are laid out in the beginning. In movies it is done in the first 15 minutes, never beyond that (at least good movies). Stories get destroyed for introducing new rules in the middle or near the end just in order to save the protagonist. It is a kind of cheating and completely throws off the audience.
Please tell us about @agnostic !
atheism is about belief or what u don't believe. an atheist does not believe in any gods.
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The reason they give for why evil exists in banal and is being explained metaphorically because of that reason. All of these are man-made explanations to try to explain the world around us. If Garden of Eden was so pure, then how come evil intentions existed there? Did God intend Adam to fall? Did the trick him? If not, is he this bewildered of what's happening inside his beloved heaven?
The human brain is just biologically more complex than ants. As far as birth and death goes, it's pretty much the same. Just cells that come together and later expire. Bear in mind, we adapted to our environment, not the other way round. So what you see as a universe of 'ideas' is just an illusion stemming from human conceit.
Something is only mysterious when ignorance outweighs knowledge of a subject. Applying feel good theories were science has yet to shed light is useless. Besides, the brain and human consciousness are no longer a mystery.
If the brain is not a mystery and nor is consciousness, build something like it. Give us AI consciousness.
how is that a legitimate question when the question itself is twisted and when the answer is pretty much available in every theology book, even the preliminary ones?
You're going off-topic with AI... Understanding something and replicating it are two different things. It took centuries to understand brain physiology, and there's still much to learn with ongoing innovative research methods. So don't expect to "build something like that" anytime soon. You made an unsubstantiated claim that there's more to human consciousness than biological function, and a universe "made up of ideas" of some mysterious entity. Of course, there's absolutely no evidence to support such claims, nor can such conclusions be reached by deductive reasoning. You're venturing into the occult, which is no different than religion.
The universe is not something you can break up like Legos. That's classical reductionist materialist science which expired more than 30 years ago according to what your own neo-material scientists are saying these days. If the universe is made up of material, you wouldn't have quantum science which is interconnected and mathematical approximation where one positron affects another regardless of distance and where virtual particles pop in and out. Now would you? Where are those fundamental blocks you need for materialism to work?
There were no βevil intentions.β Adam and Eve were in the divine presence of Perfect Oneness. Eating from the tree corrupted this original and pure state of theirs, which had now regressed into a dualistic state of mind (good vs evil). This is why Adam and Eve covered themselves when they realized they were naked.