Criticizing Jumblatt & Sheikh S. Hariri

[*Future*For*Ever*]

As a future movement supporter i decided to open this thread and have a parallel thread to the one criticizing Michel 3on and Hasan Nasrallah.

from Tayyar Keserwen's thread :
"The thread was a tool to evaluate the level of polarization the Lebanese political has reached...

The Lebanese are well-known for idolizing and worshipping their leaders, and for rarely taking criticism well, and always managing to overlook the ''negatives''. "

 

[Rafidi]

As a future movement supporter i decided to open this thread and have a parallel thread to the one criticizing Michel 3on and Hasan Nasrallah.

from Tayyar Keserwen's thread :
"The thread was a tool to evaluate the level of polarization the Lebanese political has reached...

The Lebanese are well-known for idolizing and worshipping their leaders, and for rarely taking criticism well, and always managing to overlook the ''negatives''. "

i dont know if am only supposed to state 3 points,but i will do so as in the other thread.otherwise,the entire cyberspace wouldnt be enough to criticize these two.
saad:
1.)he doesnt have what it takes to lead lebanese.he should go back to school or do more of business and gain more experience.
2.)i hate his allies.he claims to be a "sunni leader" (unlike his father who was more opened to others).as a "sunni leader",he is not compatible with the allies he chose.if not him,his people.
3.)he is a fitneh monger.maybe he thinks confrontation and wars would put him on the spotlight,while forgetting that he may get burnt in the process.

jumbi:
1.)he is a fool!he doesnt know his size.
2.)he is a warlord,butcher,thief,etc.
3.)he needs to take a break and stop the flip-flopping.

 

[mickey117]

Hariri is almost never in the country, he cannot be a leader if he's not here to hear what his people request...
He only cares about Beyrouth, he doesn't give a sh*t about Sayda and the North (except when there's an election)

Jumblatt has really killed his father's dream of a socialist Lebanon, he is the main reason socialism has not worked here....
And of course there's the classical list of things about Joumbie (butcher, flip-floper.... etc)

One common point about these two: They are nothing like their fathers yalli 5allafo w 3anjad meto!

 

[lebanese1]

-Hariri:
1) He doesn't pay enough money to buy people.
2) He spends too much time in Lebanon.
3) He doesn't use enough Muftis and religious people to polarize the Sunni street.

 

[HannaTheCrusader]

1-wahhabi racist
2-a complete follower even by lebanese standards
3-really lacks charisma, and hatred. how can he really talk with sg , wj

as for that drug addict

1-biggest christian and shia hater, and potentially a sunni hater too
2-genocider and proud of it
3-uses any means to achieve results, even if it means killing close people to him ( remember teh story how his 1 st wife died???)

BTW, between the two i prefer wj
since if he de cides to do something at least he can implement it
if he tells his supporters shut up, they do???
unlike the sa3doun who has no contril what so ever.

 

[johnnyFPM]

As a future movement supporter i decided to open this thread and have a parallel thread to the one criticizing Michel 3on and Hasan Nasrallah.

from Tayyar Keserwen's thread :
"The thread was a tool to evaluate the level of polarization the Lebanese political has reached...

The Lebanese are well-known for idolizing and worshipping their leaders, and for rarely taking criticism well, and always managing to overlook the ''negatives''. "

The whole point of the other thread was to have FPM'er and Hezballah supporters opinion about GMA and SHN.

What are your criticism about SH and WJ?

(i like how you disregard Geagea, hehe)

 

[Arze]

As a future movement supporter i decided to open this thread and have a parallel thread to the one criticizing Michel 3on and Hasan Nasrallah.

from Tayyar Keserwen's thread :
"The thread was a tool to evaluate the level of polarization the Lebanese political has reached...

The Lebanese are well-known for idolizing and worshipping their leaders, and for rarely taking criticism well, and always managing to overlook the ''negatives''. "

First allow me to ask you if you're allowed to open such thread in FM forum :msncool:

1- Saad Hariri
- Let him learn how to address the Lebanese using Lebanese accent at least
- He's a Saoudi more than Lebanese and he's loyal to KSA more than Lebanon
- He treat the poor sunna like slaves, he used them whenever he want and forget them after he's done.

2- Jumby
- He's the most famous flip floper ever
- He's an ekta3i bi kol ma3na l kalima and opportunist,, he forget about his father if he dosen't benefit from him
- He's a liar and he admitted when he says that he lied on the Syrian for the past 30 years...

 

[Arze]

The whole point of the other thread was to have FPM'er and Hezballah supporters opinion about GMA and SHN.

What are your criticism about SH and WJ?

(i like how you disregard Geagea, hehe)

Why,, is Geagea one of the 14er leaders??? he's just a tool to be used against GMA

 

[The Forgotten]

Well about Saad:
1- Manipulated
2 thinks Money is everything
3-Sunna are everything and anything is third world degree

There is more ...

Walid junblat
1- Manipulater
2- Flip flopper and liar for his own intrest
3- Killer without thinking

 

[mount_amel]

Saad

1-You shouldnt ally with Salafi groups in Tripoli .. they make you weaker and not stronger.
2-Lebanon is not Bahrian. shiats have their rights and christians too ..
3-Lebanon is not an organization that is owned by Oger .. Free Market yes, but not Khaleejeh style ..
4-Saudi Arabia is not your original country.. Move all your Biz HQs to lebanon and be an independent person and open up your biz to europe .
5-Solider is not beirut .. If you go into real beirut you will be amazed how poor this city is ..
6-Q: Which passport you travel with ? a-lebanese b-Saudi

Jumblat

1-Remember for once what did Imam Mousa Al Sader said to Kamal jumblat about the civil war and precisley the Jabal War ..


Salam

 

[GMA forever]

As a future movement supporter i decided to open this thread and have a parallel thread to the one criticizing Michel 3on and Hasan Nasrallah.

from Tayyar Keserwen's thread :
"The thread was a tool to evaluate the level of polarization the Lebanese political has reached...

The Lebanese are well-known for idolizing and worshipping their leaders, and for rarely taking criticism well, and always managing to overlook the ''negatives''. "

Well the thread of Tayyar Keserwen was mainly meant to be for self criticism. Now of course we can find you dozens of points to criticise Sa3d Hariri and Jounblatt, so why don't you practice what you preach yourself and enlighten us about the 3 points that you don't like about your leader.

 

[Sadi2LiBnaN]

Salut à Tous,

Je crois qu'il vaudrait mieux changer le titre du sujet: "WJ, SH & SG ont-ils des qualité? Si oui, Dites-les":tongue:

PS: Désolé si j'écris en Français.

 

[Observer]

As a future movement supporter i decided to open this thread and have a parallel thread to the one criticizing Michel 3on and Hasan Nasrallah.

from Tayyar Keserwen's thread :
"The thread was a tool to evaluate the level of polarization the Lebanese political has reached...

The Lebanese are well-known for idolizing and worshipping their leaders, and for rarely taking criticism well, and always managing to overlook the ''negatives''. "

Ok. But since when does public opinion matter in Lebanon? You can criticize Hariri until he burns still on election day some $$$$ will shut the mouth who criticize him.

n.b Do not tell me that other leaders do pay $$$ too because this thread is about Hariri.

 

[Souss]

Hariri

- Strong connection with brutal, intolerant regime of KSA and complacent with extremist sunni figures
- Allied with former warlords
- Strong suspicion of corruption

Jumblat

- Strong suspicion of war crimes/crimes against humanity
- Flip-flopper/backstabber
- Strong suspicion of corruption

 

[Amirkani]

I have nothing bad to say about them. I love them both a lot... but not as much as I love Geagea.

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[AL_JAMES]

SAAD HARRIRI
1- great leader and a great business man our country needs him
2- polite , classy and brave
3- show great wisdom and courage in the latest hzib war
WJ
1- a great military leader proved it in the latest war against the hzib
2- the smartest political leader in Lebanon
3- honest , brave and cares for the free Lebanon

 

[lebanon_first]

SAAD HARRIRI
1- great leader and a great business man our country needs him
2- polite , classy and brave
3- show great wisdom and courage in the latest hzib war
WJ
1- a great military leader proved it in the latest war against the hzib
2- the smartest political leader in Lebanon
3- honest , brave and cares for the free Lebanon

If that's how you criticize your leaders then no wonder we're in this deep $*hit in Lebanon!

 

[RamitallicA]

saad hariri:

1) Time to kindly ask his media to rest a bit and stop spreading hate
2) Needs to give more time for the country
3) Stop solidere, you ruined beirut by selling it to the arabs

walid jumblat:

1) Schizophrenic
2) also Schizophrenic
3) needs to get rid of Schizophrenia

 

[Observer]

saad hariri:

1) Time to kindly ask his media to rest a bit and stop spreading hate

They never will until Hariri proves competence in his leadership which until now he was unable of. (he is a miserable failure). Secterian agitation is a very powerful, efficient and proven tool to divert attention away from deep fundamental troubles which, in the case of Hariri, is his incomptency and inability to lead. (again, he is a miserable failure and drove the Sunnis into walls smashing their faces and bloodied them).

 

[L'arbalette]

Since when is Hariri a "Sheikh"?

As far as I know, Emir, sheikh and beik are real titles provided during the ottoman empire to different families and subsequently inherited from father to son (and daughter). Was Hariri ever a sheikh?