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Abuse in the Catholic Church | DW Documentary
i have yet to encounter an argument that gives any heed to veracity. it is always one attempt after the next to dress you in the outfit they desire simply to tell you that you have a bad taste in clothing. and that makes the difference between an intelligent discussion where people can learn and grow, and between a war of hatred under the banner of "my God is stronger than yours".I am really impressed with the proficiency of Muslim warriors in copy pasting videos and images followed by a request for an explanation.
Seriously, you do realize that anyone can trash your thread with videos and images coming from ISIS only and ask you for the same thing.
You provide no benefits at all to the Christian infidels when you showcase your ignorance in our faith.
Try harder please!
You probably already know this, but just for the record, no Christian believes that praying to or kissing a statue will get them anything from the actual statues. The statues in our churches and homes are portraits of Christian figures we hold in high esteem. No different from having framed photos or paintings of your family members in your home, that you can look at to remember them. And, yes, sometimes people kiss a picture of someone they love. It doesn't mean that they think they are kissing the actual person.wtf did you just say? If the muslims religion was so superior, how come you find the most retarded systems and countries are being run under sharia while those inhabited by statue kissers have seen inventions like the internet, the telescope, the computer, the iPhone, Hubble, spaceships, penicillin wawawa... That fu**** devil you keep chasing with stones seems to have come to stay. About time you try kissing statues for a change, perhaps you'd get some answers and start producing something more useful than bomb belts.
Notice that most of the forumers who behave this way are not actually religious. Hating on Christianity and defending islam seems to be a tribal issue for them, rather than a religious or philosophical one.and reality remains that like most participants in these threads, not only you have no clue what Christianity is, but your own knowledge your own faith is also shockingly lacking for someone who is oozing zeal on the surface, a pattern that we became all too familiar with across time in these threads, which continue to shed the light on some very interesting phenomena that have to do more with the participants than it has to do with God and faith.
This is all they can do. They can't dispute actual Christian doctrine so they either:I am really impressed with the proficiency of Muslim warriors in copy pasting videos and images followed by a request for an explanation.
P.S. On another topic, I see from your name and avatar that you seem to have a thing for nazis. The nazis hated the Church and seeked its destruction. Furthermore, the suffering and death they caused go against everything Christianity stands for; so, if you truly love Christ, I urge you to denounce nazism and the horrors it represents.
As Dark Angel said above, it could be a very enjoyable subject to discuss but alas, it's more of an entertainment thread since not one of these cyber jihadists is able to follow up on any of their claims...This is all they can do. They can't dispute actual Christian doctrine so they either:
- Copy paste examples of people going against Christian doctrine, and try to pass it off as Christianity.
- Invent strawman doctrines that are not Christian, and demand that Christians argue about them.
I have long stopped replying to such people. Unfortunately, I have discovered that they don't come from a place of genuine curiosity and knowledge seeking, but from a place of hatred.
In fact, they don't even come from a place of genuine concern for victims of abuse, as they like to pretend. For example, it is obvious from their posts in other threads that their thoughts about women are full of disgusting perversions; and, that they are incapable of relating to women without objectifying them.
Indie sis, I don't have a big thing for nazism, in fact, I'm not white, I don't have blond hair or blue eyes. Nazism was a political ideology that incorporated many -isms I do not believe in. I am a military history buff and I enjoy ww2 from the German side. Not all Germans were nazis. I don't know why it's hard to grasp.P.S. On another topic, I see from your name and avatar that you seem to have a thing for nazis. The nazis hated the Church and seeked its destruction. Furthermore, the suffering and death they caused go against everything Christianity stands for; so, if you truly love Christ, I urge you to denounce nazism and the horrors it represents.
Of course, not all Germans were nazis. I just assumed you sympathised with them because of your forum name and avatar. I'm glad that is not the case.Indie sis, I don't have a big thing for nazism, in fact, I'm not white, I don't have blond hair or blue eyes. Nazism was a political ideology that incorporated many -isms I do not believe in. I am a military history buff and I enjoy ww2 from the German side. Not all Germans were nazis. I don't know why it's hard to grasp.
I never heard of this book before. Sounds like one I would enjoy reading. Thank you for the recommendation!In order to not derail from the subject of this thread, I HIGHLY recommend this book to you:
If you don't enjoy reading this book, I will reimburse you for it*!
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Expounding on my previous post (#problem_of_evil, #problem_of_suffering, #Christianity, #Islam, #Difference_between_Christianity_and_Islam):It is a given that the argument for the problem of evil (or of suffering) fails by default against the classical theist God who, by human reason alone, is independently demonstrated and held to be omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient (in a more straight forward fashion; creation ultimately cannot but be a perfect act of love, of self-giving, for God by definition benefits nothing of it, and since God knows better and is trustworthy, there goes down the drain any supposedly valid reason for holding God to be evil or not all-good or for validly doubting his goodness, unless that reason successfully tackles the independent argument for God's aforementioned attributes)
This is all good and sufficient by default, yet still all too difficult to process, let alone so entirely and satisfactorily (to let it 'sink in', to use simpler wording) especially for those in the midst of an incredible suffering. Consequently, valid important questions comes up to the human mind, like for instance: If this God is that good and loving and trustworthy, and although he isn't obliged to; would he have not at least made his attitude towards my suffering revealed to me? Let alone manifest it somehow as well? The problem with Islam is that it not only ignores it, but shoots itself in the foot and answers it in the negative.
WTF are you talking about? You type a lot of words, most of which lack any substance. What do you want me to point out exactly?i can show you very precisely where that is written and detailed in Christian scripture and theology, can you do the same and show me where that is explicitly pointed out in the quran?
Again, what are you trying to prove here? Just get to the freaking point.To Him [alone] is the supplication of truth. And those they call upon besides Him do not respond to them with a thing, except as one who stretches his hands toward water [from afar, calling it] to reach his mouth, but it will not reach it [thus]. And the supplication of the disbelievers is not but in error [i.e. futility].
No go, kid. I’m not playing your silly pedantic games. IDGAF what the “catechism of the Catholic Church” says. Catholics clearly pray to statues and use them as an intermediary, whether you like it or not.I gave you the easiest way out, you had ONE JOB: quote the Catechism of the Catholic Church with that teaching. Had you done so, you would have had a blast laughing at us.
Instead, you chose to remain the village idiot! In this case we're the ones laughing at you for your arrogance in ignorance
it is very obvious what i am talking about, and the point has been made very clearly. switching to fool and troll mode to pretend that you don't get it will not be in your favor either.WTF are you talking about? You type a lot of words, most of which lack any substance. What do you want me to point out exactly?
Again, what are you trying to prove here? Just get to the freaking point.
As you have failed to backup your claim, enjoy your status as the village idiot....and thanks for the entertainment in advance!No go, kid. I’m not playing your silly pedantic games. IDGAF what the “catechism of the Catholic Church” says. Catholics clearly pray to statues and use them as an intermediary, whether you like it or not.