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According to a Hadith Qudsi (Sahih Bukhari), the Prophet narrates that Allah says “I am as my servant thinks of me.” This short statement can allow us to better understand the unique nature of Allah vis-à-vis human perception and worship, and how the very concept of Allah differs vastly from other monotheist and deistic traditions.

We should remind our readers that one of Allah’s Names is The Reality. As far as we’re concerned, this Divine Attriubute alone dispels the ignorant notions of Allah being a personal deity of sorts, like the gods of Olympia; or like the other ego-based conceptions of the supernatural like the Christian Jesus, or Jewish Yahweh.

Henceforth, Allah remains The Reality regardless of whether someone is a Christian or atheist, because everyone is always reflecting their own idiosyncratic perceptions of existence onto their outside physical world (and having those same perceptions reflect back). In other words, individuals and groups will believe whatever they believe in, and that essentially reflects (on multiple dimensional levels) on their own exterior reality. For instance, an atheist believes in no God, so they project a world where God is non-existent, and so that’s what they experience on multiple fronts in the form of life content.

The difference in the Muslim’s situation is that he’s obligated to go straight to the Source, and ergo there is no projection of ego-based affirmations, but a reflection of only Allah and His Divine Attributes (the extent to which depends on certain factors). Ergo, a Muslim exists on the very premise of Reality! This is what Al- Ghazali relates to when he says that a Muslim’s mission is to reflect the Light of Allah on creation, for it’s only by disintegration of the ego that man can realize his true and real self, and that is the purity and light of his absolute spirit.

Of course, this isn’t to say that individual Muslims and Muslim sects don’t project their own personal ideas of what the desired path ought to be, which is basically why Islam has branched out into various sects, the main ones being the Sunni and Shiite. Even then, the Sunni and Shiite, regardless of their own interpretations of what the true “Islamic path” should represent, still ultimately refer to the Absolute of all things (Allah).... albeit ego and a personal identity built on thought-patterns over a period of centuries can hinder the process.

Of course, from a metaphysical perceptive at least, the conflict between Sunnis and Shiites (and perhaps between all other divergent groups that have ever clashed with each other in the history of mankind) can be characterized as being rooted in ego; in that both categories are projecting their own conclusions about “what is,” and this “what is” is essentially their own mental interpretations of historical material events! It has nothing to do with Reality itself, but that doesn’t stop people from clinging to their own mental conceptions of what true reality represents....
so you have confirmed wat we’ve been saying since ever, islam’s allah is sham made up and adapted from the philosophies of many different cultural currents of its time where everyone can see it and describe it as it fits their agenda to further watever goal they want to accomplish wether it is financial or sexual or political or moral or just inhumane acts :)

the “reality” as we know it 😂

wlek yeslam hal temm 😘
 
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  • Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    According to a Hadith Qudsi (Sahih Bukhari), the Prophet narrates that Allah says “I am as my servant thinks of me.” This short statement can allow us to better understand the unique nature of Allah vis-à-vis human perception and worship, and how the very concept of Allah differs vastly from other monotheist and deistic traditions.

    We should remind our readers that one of Allah’s Names is The Reality. As far as we’re concerned, this Divine Attriubute alone dispels the ignorant notions of Allah being a personal deity of sorts, like the gods of Olympia; or like the other ego-based conceptions of the supernatural like the Christian Jesus, or Jewish Yahweh.

    Henceforth, Allah remains The Reality regardless of whether someone is a Christian or atheist, because everyone is always reflecting their own idiosyncratic perceptions of existence onto their outside physical world (and having those same perceptions reflect back). In other words, individuals and groups will believe whatever they believe in, and that essentially reflects (on multiple dimensional levels) on their own exterior reality. For instance, an atheist believes in no God, so they project a world where God is non-existent, and so that’s what they experience on multiple fronts in the form of life content.

    The difference in the Muslim’s situation is that he’s obligated to go straight to the Source, and ergo there is no projection of ego-based affirmations, but a reflection of only Allah and His Divine Attributes (the extent to which depends on certain factors). Ergo, a Muslim exists on the very premise of Reality! This is what Al- Ghazali relates to when he says that a Muslim’s mission is to reflect the Light of Allah on creation, for it’s only by disintegration of the ego that man can realize his true and real self, and that is the purity and light of his absolute spirit.

    Of course, this isn’t to say that individual Muslims and Muslim sects don’t project their own personal ideas of what the desired path ought to be, which is basically why Islam has branched out into various sects, the main ones being the Sunni and Shiite. Even then, the Sunni and Shiite, regardless of their own interpretations of what the true “Islamic path” should represent, still ultimately refer to the Absolute of all things (Allah).... albeit ego and a personal identity built on thought-patterns over a period of centuries can hinder the process.

    Of course, from a metaphysical perceptive at least, the conflict between Sunnis and Shiites (and perhaps between all other divergent groups that have ever clashed with each other in the history of mankind) can be characterized as being rooted in ego; in that both categories are projecting their own conclusions about “what is,” and this “what is” is essentially their own mental interpretations of historical material events! It has nothing to do with Reality itself, but that doesn’t stop people from clinging to their own mental conceptions of what true reality represents....
    so abu hurayra is a credible source for the hadith now? thank you :)
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    so you have confirmed wat we’ve been saying since ever, islam’s allah is sham made up and adapted from the philosophies of many different cultural currents of its time where everyone can see it and describe it as it fits their agenda to further watever goal they want to accomplish wether it is financial or sexual or political or moral or just inhumane acts :)

    the “reality” as we know it 😂

    wlek yeslam hal temm 😘
    Moving along....
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Yes, we think that this beautiful and short statement by Rumi really exemplifies the reality of the inner spirit. Ego versus Light- a dichotomy that can likewise be found in far-Eastern philosophies; and which is rather popular in New-Age Christianity.

    Of course, the difference between Islam and those other traditions is the former’s adherence to the Law! (more on this later.)

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    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    so abu hurayra is a credible source for the hadith now? thank you :)
    You’re welcome.
    @Rafidi
    أقترح أن تلتقوا سوياً في إجتماع مغلق وتتفقوا على الأرقام قبل أن تظهروها للعلن
    هل أبو هريرة صحيح الحديث أم لا؟
    هذه الإستنسابية لا تتفق مع معايير صندوق النقد الدولي
    لكي يبنى على الشيء مقتضاه
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    @Rafidi
    أقترح أن تلتقوا سوياً في إجتماع مغلق وتتفقوا على الأرقام قبل أن تظهروها للعلن
    هل أبو هريرة صحيح الحديث أم لا؟
    هذه الإستنسابية لا تتفق مع معايير صندوق النقد الدولي
    لكي يبنى على الشيء مقتضاه
    خخخخخخخخخ

    يخرب بيتك شو بتضحك

    🙄
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    خخخخخخخخخ



    يخرب بيتك شو بتضحك



    🙄
    i didn't know we had a comical critic in our ranks, what do you think of the comedy below? also attributed to abi hurayra among others.

    عن أبي هُرَيرةَ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، قال: قال رسولُ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم: ((يَقطَعُ الصَّلاةَ: المرأةُ، والحمارُ، والكلبُ، ويقِي ذلك مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ))

    2- عن أبي ذَرٍّ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، عن رسولِ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم، قال: ((إذا قامَ أحدُكم فصَلَّى فإنَّه يَستُرُه إذا كان بَينَ يَديهِ مِثلُ آخِرَةِ الرَّحلِ، فإذا لم يكُنْ بَينَ يَديهِ مِثلُ آخِرَةِ الرَّحلِ فإنَّه يَقطَعُ صلاتَه: الحمارُ، والمرأةُ، والكلبُ الأسودُ)) (11) .

    two hadiths attributed to abu huraira in the same book by the same people. obviously they should both be addressed with the same standards.

    now do you think this word "الرَّحلِ" was written before or after punctuation was introduced to the language? asking from a purely academic perspective of course.

    maybe you or @NewLeb can also explain the spiritual significance of having your hands wrapped around something مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ (which is depicted in this pic below) and explain how that prevents voiding prayer.

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    lastly, please help spread that picture above, there is obviously an ajr for you in that.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    i didn't know we had a comical critic in our ranks, what do you think of the comedy below? also attributed to abi hurayra among others.

    عن أبي هُرَيرةَ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، قال: قال رسولُ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم: ((يَقطَعُ الصَّلاةَ: المرأةُ، والحمارُ، والكلبُ، ويقِي ذلك مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ))

    2- عن أبي ذَرٍّ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، عن رسولِ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم، قال: ((إذا قامَ أحدُكم فصَلَّى فإنَّه يَستُرُه إذا كان بَينَ يَديهِ مِثلُ آخِرَةِ الرَّحلِ، فإذا لم يكُنْ بَينَ يَديهِ مِثلُ آخِرَةِ الرَّحلِ فإنَّه يَقطَعُ صلاتَه: الحمارُ، والمرأةُ، والكلبُ الأسودُ)) (11) .

    two hadiths attributed to abu huraira in the same book by the same people. obviously they should both be addressed with the same standards.

    now do you think this word "الرَّحلِ" was written before or after punctuation was introduced to the language? asking from a purely academic perspective of course.

    maybe you or @NewLeb can also explain the spiritual significance of having your hands wrapped around something مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ (which is depicted in this pic below) and explain how that prevents voiding prayer.

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    lastly, please help spread that picture above, there is obviously an ajr for you in that.

     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    always escaping and on the run.
    now comparing St Paul to abi huraira? :lol:

    let's see.

    Paul:
    المحبة
    لَوْ كُنْتُ أَتَكَلَّمُ بِلُغَاتِ النَّاسِ وَالْمَلائِكَةِ وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، لَمَا كُنْتُ إِلّا نُحَاساً يَطِنُّ وَصَنْجاً يَرِنُّ!
    وَلَوْ كَانَتْ لِي مَوْهِبَةُ النُّبُوءَةِ، وَكُنْتُ عَالِماً بِجَمِيعِ الأَسْرَارِ وَالْعِلْمِ كُلِّهِ، وَكَانَ عِنْدِي الإِيمَانُ كُلُّهُ حَتَّى أَنْقُلَ الْجِبَالَ، وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، فَلَسْتُ شَيْئاً!
    وَلَوْ قَدَّمْتُ أَمْوَالِي كُلَّهَا لِلإِطْعَامِ، وَسَلَّمْتُ جَسَدِي لأُحْرَقَ، وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، لَمَا كُنْتُ أَنْتَفِعُ شَيْئاً.
    الْمَحَبَّةُ تَصْبِرُ طَوِيلاً؛ وَهِيَ لَطِيفَةٌ. الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَحْسُدُ. الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَتَفَاخَرُ وَلا تَتَكَبَّرُ.
    لَا تَتَصَرَّفُ بِغَيْرِ لِيَاقَةٍ، وَلا تَسْعَى إِلَى مَصْلَحَتِهَا الْخَاصَّةِ. لَا تُسْتَفَزُّ سَرِيعاً، وَلا تَنْسِبُ الشَّرَّ لأَحَدٍ.
    لَا تَفْرَحُ بِالظُّلْمِ، بَلْ تَفْرَحُ بِالْحَقِّ.
    إِنَّهَا تَسْتُرُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتُصَدِّقُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتَرْجُو كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتَتَحَمَّلُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ.
    الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَزُولُ أَبَداً. أَمَّا مَوَاهِبُ النُّبُوآتِ فَسَتُزَالُ، وَمَوَاهِبُ اللُّغَاتِ سَتَنْقَطِعُ، وَالْمَعْرِفَةُ سَتُزَالُ. 9 فَإِنَّ مَعْرِفَتَنَا جُزْئِيَّةٌ وَنُبُوءَتَنَا جُزْئِيَّةٌ.
    وَلَكِنْ، عِنْدَمَا يَأْتِي مَا هُوَ كَامِلٌ، يُزَالُ مَا هُوَ جُزْئِيٌّ.
    فَلَمَّا كُنْتُ طِفْلاً، كُنْتُ أَتَكَلَّمُ كَالطِّفْلِ، وَأَشْعُرُ كَالطِّفْلِ، وَأُفَكِّرُ كَالطِّفْلِ. وَلَكِنْ، لَمَّا صِرْتُ رَجُلاً، أَبْطَلْتُ مَا يَخُصُّ الطِّفْلَ.
    وَنَحْنُ الآنَ نَنْظُرُ إِلَى الأُمُورِ كَمَا فِي مِرْآةٍ فَلا نَرَاهَا وَاضِحَةً. إِلّا أَنَّنَا سَنَرَاهَا أَخِيراً مُوَاجَهَةً. الآنَ، أَعْرِفُ مَعْرِفَةً جُزْئِيَّةً. وَلَكِنِّي، عِنْدَئِذٍ، سَأَعْرِفُ مِثْلَمَا عُرِفْتُ.
    أَمَّا الآنَ، فَهذِهِ الثَّلاثَةُ بَاقِيَةٌ: الإِيمَانُ، وَالرَّجَاءُ، وَالْمَحَبَّةُ. وَلَكِنَّ أَعْظَمَهَا الْمَحَبَّةُ!


    Abi Huraira
    عن أبي هُرَيرةَ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، قال: قال رسولُ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم: يَقطَعُ الصَّلاةَ: المرأةُ، والحمارُ، والكلبُ، ويقِي ذلك مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

    Legendary Member
    always escaping and on the run.
    now comparing St Paul to abi huraira? :lol:

    let's see.

    Paul:
    المحبة
    لَوْ كُنْتُ أَتَكَلَّمُ بِلُغَاتِ النَّاسِ وَالْمَلائِكَةِ وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، لَمَا كُنْتُ إِلّا نُحَاساً يَطِنُّ وَصَنْجاً يَرِنُّ!
    وَلَوْ كَانَتْ لِي مَوْهِبَةُ النُّبُوءَةِ، وَكُنْتُ عَالِماً بِجَمِيعِ الأَسْرَارِ وَالْعِلْمِ كُلِّهِ، وَكَانَ عِنْدِي الإِيمَانُ كُلُّهُ حَتَّى أَنْقُلَ الْجِبَالَ، وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، فَلَسْتُ شَيْئاً!
    وَلَوْ قَدَّمْتُ أَمْوَالِي كُلَّهَا لِلإِطْعَامِ، وَسَلَّمْتُ جَسَدِي لأُحْرَقَ، وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، لَمَا كُنْتُ أَنْتَفِعُ شَيْئاً.
    الْمَحَبَّةُ تَصْبِرُ طَوِيلاً؛ وَهِيَ لَطِيفَةٌ. الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَحْسُدُ. الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَتَفَاخَرُ وَلا تَتَكَبَّرُ.
    لَا تَتَصَرَّفُ بِغَيْرِ لِيَاقَةٍ، وَلا تَسْعَى إِلَى مَصْلَحَتِهَا الْخَاصَّةِ. لَا تُسْتَفَزُّ سَرِيعاً، وَلا تَنْسِبُ الشَّرَّ لأَحَدٍ.
    لَا تَفْرَحُ بِالظُّلْمِ، بَلْ تَفْرَحُ بِالْحَقِّ.
    إِنَّهَا تَسْتُرُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتُصَدِّقُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتَرْجُو كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتَتَحَمَّلُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ.
    الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَزُولُ أَبَداً. أَمَّا مَوَاهِبُ النُّبُوآتِ فَسَتُزَالُ، وَمَوَاهِبُ اللُّغَاتِ سَتَنْقَطِعُ، وَالْمَعْرِفَةُ سَتُزَالُ. 9 فَإِنَّ مَعْرِفَتَنَا جُزْئِيَّةٌ وَنُبُوءَتَنَا جُزْئِيَّةٌ.
    وَلَكِنْ، عِنْدَمَا يَأْتِي مَا هُوَ كَامِلٌ، يُزَالُ مَا هُوَ جُزْئِيٌّ.
    فَلَمَّا كُنْتُ طِفْلاً، كُنْتُ أَتَكَلَّمُ كَالطِّفْلِ، وَأَشْعُرُ كَالطِّفْلِ، وَأُفَكِّرُ كَالطِّفْلِ. وَلَكِنْ، لَمَّا صِرْتُ رَجُلاً، أَبْطَلْتُ مَا يَخُصُّ الطِّفْلَ.
    وَنَحْنُ الآنَ نَنْظُرُ إِلَى الأُمُورِ كَمَا فِي مِرْآةٍ فَلا نَرَاهَا وَاضِحَةً. إِلّا أَنَّنَا سَنَرَاهَا أَخِيراً مُوَاجَهَةً. الآنَ، أَعْرِفُ مَعْرِفَةً جُزْئِيَّةً. وَلَكِنِّي، عِنْدَئِذٍ، سَأَعْرِفُ مِثْلَمَا عُرِفْتُ.
    أَمَّا الآنَ، فَهذِهِ الثَّلاثَةُ بَاقِيَةٌ: الإِيمَانُ، وَالرَّجَاءُ، وَالْمَحَبَّةُ. وَلَكِنَّ أَعْظَمَهَا الْمَحَبَّةُ!


    Abi Huraira
    عن أبي هُرَيرةَ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، قال: قال رسولُ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم: يَقطَعُ الصَّلاةَ: المرأةُ، والحمارُ، والكلبُ، ويقِي ذلك مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ
    I'm not running away. I'm the wrong person to question on abu hurayrah. It is like a Muslim questioning a Maronite on Charles Taze Russell. It is ridiculous.
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

    New Member
    always escaping and on the run.
    now comparing St Paul to abi huraira? :lol:

    let's see.

    Paul:
    المحبة
    لَوْ كُنْتُ أَتَكَلَّمُ بِلُغَاتِ النَّاسِ وَالْمَلائِكَةِ وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، لَمَا كُنْتُ إِلّا نُحَاساً يَطِنُّ وَصَنْجاً يَرِنُّ!
    وَلَوْ كَانَتْ لِي مَوْهِبَةُ النُّبُوءَةِ، وَكُنْتُ عَالِماً بِجَمِيعِ الأَسْرَارِ وَالْعِلْمِ كُلِّهِ، وَكَانَ عِنْدِي الإِيمَانُ كُلُّهُ حَتَّى أَنْقُلَ الْجِبَالَ، وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، فَلَسْتُ شَيْئاً!
    وَلَوْ قَدَّمْتُ أَمْوَالِي كُلَّهَا لِلإِطْعَامِ، وَسَلَّمْتُ جَسَدِي لأُحْرَقَ، وَلَيْسَ عِنْدِي مَحَبَّةٌ، لَمَا كُنْتُ أَنْتَفِعُ شَيْئاً.
    الْمَحَبَّةُ تَصْبِرُ طَوِيلاً؛ وَهِيَ لَطِيفَةٌ. الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَحْسُدُ. الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَتَفَاخَرُ وَلا تَتَكَبَّرُ.
    لَا تَتَصَرَّفُ بِغَيْرِ لِيَاقَةٍ، وَلا تَسْعَى إِلَى مَصْلَحَتِهَا الْخَاصَّةِ. لَا تُسْتَفَزُّ سَرِيعاً، وَلا تَنْسِبُ الشَّرَّ لأَحَدٍ.
    لَا تَفْرَحُ بِالظُّلْمِ، بَلْ تَفْرَحُ بِالْحَقِّ.
    إِنَّهَا تَسْتُرُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتُصَدِّقُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتَرْجُو كُلَّ شَيْءٍ، وَتَتَحَمَّلُ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ.
    الْمَحَبَّةُ لَا تَزُولُ أَبَداً. أَمَّا مَوَاهِبُ النُّبُوآتِ فَسَتُزَالُ، وَمَوَاهِبُ اللُّغَاتِ سَتَنْقَطِعُ، وَالْمَعْرِفَةُ سَتُزَالُ. 9 فَإِنَّ مَعْرِفَتَنَا جُزْئِيَّةٌ وَنُبُوءَتَنَا جُزْئِيَّةٌ.
    وَلَكِنْ، عِنْدَمَا يَأْتِي مَا هُوَ كَامِلٌ، يُزَالُ مَا هُوَ جُزْئِيٌّ.
    فَلَمَّا كُنْتُ طِفْلاً، كُنْتُ أَتَكَلَّمُ كَالطِّفْلِ، وَأَشْعُرُ كَالطِّفْلِ، وَأُفَكِّرُ كَالطِّفْلِ. وَلَكِنْ، لَمَّا صِرْتُ رَجُلاً، أَبْطَلْتُ مَا يَخُصُّ الطِّفْلَ.
    وَنَحْنُ الآنَ نَنْظُرُ إِلَى الأُمُورِ كَمَا فِي مِرْآةٍ فَلا نَرَاهَا وَاضِحَةً. إِلّا أَنَّنَا سَنَرَاهَا أَخِيراً مُوَاجَهَةً. الآنَ، أَعْرِفُ مَعْرِفَةً جُزْئِيَّةً. وَلَكِنِّي، عِنْدَئِذٍ، سَأَعْرِفُ مِثْلَمَا عُرِفْتُ.
    أَمَّا الآنَ، فَهذِهِ الثَّلاثَةُ بَاقِيَةٌ: الإِيمَانُ، وَالرَّجَاءُ، وَالْمَحَبَّةُ. وَلَكِنَّ أَعْظَمَهَا الْمَحَبَّةُ!


    Abi Huraira
    عن أبي هُرَيرةَ رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْه، قال: قال رسولُ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم: يَقطَعُ الصَّلاةَ: المرأةُ، والحمارُ، والكلبُ، ويقِي ذلك مِثلُ مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ
    I think you reflect the typical approach of the general Christian who is more interested in having his emotions piqued by sophisticated and grandiose language, then simple and straightforward metaphysical truth. If you had been alive during the time of Jesus, you most likely would have been the ones who mocked him.

    It doesn’t really make a difference if the above Hadith generates your ridicule. Your ego is obviously the one in control here....
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Prophecy of the end times #1:

    Out of all the prophecies that the Prophet enumerated to us regarding the Last Day, I believe the following one really takes the cake.

    It was reported from Abu Sa’id that the Prophet (s) said: “The Hour will not come until the time when a man will leave his home, and his shoes or whip or stick will tell what is happening to his family.” [Narrated by Ahmad in Musnad, 3:88 and 89]

    Yes, a talking shoe. Of course, even today a talking shoe may seem absolutely ridiculous to us, so imagine a thousand years ago! However, it seems that we are indeed near the end times, as this prophecy has clearly been fulfilled!

    These Shoes Are Made for Talking

    Indeed, how can an individual living hundreds of years ago in the middle of the desert...well, you know the drift!
     
    AtheistForYeezus

    AtheistForYeezus

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    Prophecy of the end times #1:

    Out of all the prophecies that the Prophet enumerated to us regarding the Last Day, I believe the following one really takes the cake.




    Yes, a talking shoe. Of course, even today a talking shoe may seem absolutely ridiculous to us, so imagine a thousand years ago! However, it seems that we are indeed near the end times, as this prophecy has clearly been fulfilled!

    These Shoes Are Made for Talking

    Indeed, how can an individual living hundreds of years ago in the middle of the desert...well, you know the drift!
    LOL "These Shoes Are Made for Talking" is a genius headline. Moe was a visionary.
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    I think you reflect the typical approach of the general Christian who is more interested in having his emotions piqued by sophisticated and grandiose language, then simple and straightforward metaphysical truth. If you had been alive during the time of Jesus, you most likely would have been the ones who mocked him.

    It doesn’t really make a difference if the above Hadith generates your ridicule. Your ego is obviously the one in control here....
    yes that is the problem. the sophisticated and grandiose language. not that keeping your hands around something like مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ prevents your prayers from being void if a woman a donkey or a black dog walk by.

    comatose.
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    yes that is the problem. the sophisticated and grandiose language. not that keeping your hands around something like مُؤْخِرةِ الرَّحلِ prevents your prayers from being void if a woman a donkey or a black dog walk by.

    comatose.
    Well, it really doesn’t matter what your snarky persona thinks about any particular theological stipulation. Christians don’t follow the Law, so I’m not sure why they think they’re in some sort of superior position to mock any of its precepts, whether they come from the Islamic or Judaic tradition. Perhaps it’s attention-seeking.

    Can you please provide the Hadith number of that alleged text by Abu Hurairah? We have to be real careful with your type. The following Hadith by Aisha directly contradicts your text;

    Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490: Narrated 'Aisha:

    The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."
     
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    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Prophecies of the end times #2;

    Here’s another one that’s clearly been fulfilled. Judgement Day is right around the corner...start kneeling!

    “The Hour will not be established until the people of the desert (the camel shepherds) compete with one another in constructing high buildings.”

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