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NewLeb

NewLeb

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Yet, masturbation is forbidden (or at least discouraged). Go figure. :rolleyes:
Anything that distracts man from the remembrance of Allah is haram. This is precisely why the Prophet said that everything in this world- except good deeds and prayer- is cursed.

However, not everyone was destined to be a prophet, and not everyone has the mental capacity to be a saint. Allah is only concerned with the content of a man’s heart, and humans were manufactured to sin. In other words, a man who lived an entirely sinful life may end up in heaven, while someone who did his best to avoid all worldly pleasures may not!

The majority of people don’t know what the hell is going on anyway, which explains why the Prophet said that heaven is mostly filled with naive and clueless people.
 
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    vicking747

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    I don’t get this one. They are offering their martyrdom for the women to wear the Hijab ? This is it ?
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    You have this idea of “god” that is in your own mind, and you’re trying to project that onto Islam.

    Allah is The Reality. He is Everything, and He is the Only One, The Only Existence. He is the First, and He is the Last. You may think of yourself as an independent and individual being (the illusion that is referred to in Hinduism and other Eastern philosophies), but the truth is that you are simply another cog in the whole universal system! Allah is the Only One who is doing Everything.

    It doesn’t matter if you are a Maronite or a Jew or a Sunni or a Hindu. Every one of those sects project their own beliefs of reality onto their external worlds, but Reality in and of itself (the whole of its individual parts!) will always be One!
    allah is all this yet allah needs to tell you how and what to eat, when to pray, how to have sex, how many wives you may take, to follow lent during a certain moon cycle and the list goes on and on to the limits of absurdity abd back..

    if anything your description of this allah is the best caricature to your small pp beliefs as most religions, insecurity/anxiety and the fear of being meaningless in the universe

    make me laugh some more with your allah😂
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    Anything that distracts man from the remembrance of Allah is haram. This is precisely why the Prophet said that everything in this world- except good deeds and prayer- is cursed.

    However, not everyone was destined to be a prophet, and not everyone has the mental capacity to be a saint. Allah is only concerned with the content of a man’s heart, and humans were manufactured to sin. In other words, a man who lived an entirely sinful life may end up in heaven, while someone who did his best to avoid all worldly pleasures may not!

    The majority of people don’t know what the hell is going on anyway, which explains why the Prophet said that heaven is mostly filled with naive and clueless people.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    allah is all this yet allah needs to tell you how and what to eat, when to pray, how to have sex, how many wives you may take, to follow lent during a certain moon cycle and the list goes on and on to the limits of absurdity abd back..
    Sure, God created mankind and the universe, and ergo, God knows what’s best. God created pigs, and if His prophets and messengers told humanity not to consume them, I won’t.

    if anything your description of this allah is the best caricature to your small pp beliefs as most religions, insecurity/anxiety and the fear of being meaningless in the universe

    make me laugh some more with your allah😂
    Nonsese, it’s those who disbelieve that are the real insecure ones, in that their failure to know their true selves leads them to create their own false identities.

    It’s like how you call yourself a homosexual, and how you identity with that caricature. It’s all done to hide your own deep insecurities and anxieties, which you project on God and religion in the form of ridicule and mockery just so you won’t have to take a good look in the mirror.
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Qur’anic verse of the day;

    Sahih International: And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
    It must be reinforced that the Quran is not an ordinary book. It is a reflection of mankind. How one approaches the Quran (with all his preconceived notions and innate expectations) will be reflected right back at him!

    Despite all the technological and intellectual advances of the world, people generally have stayed the same in terms of their perception of Truth. The same people who mock God today and ridicule His followers for following things “made up” by the ancients people are still with us in the present!

    And that’s the beauty of the Qur’an. Regardless of the time period, it will always be relevant, because it will always serve as a mirror to the souls of humanity.
     
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    Lemon

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    Qur’anic verse of the day;



    It must be reinforced that the Quran is not an ordinary book. It is a reflection of mankind. How one approaches the Quran (with all his preconceived notions and innate expectations) will be reflected right back at him!

    Despite all the technological and intellectual advances of the world, people generally have stayed the same in terms of their perception of Truth. The same people who mock God today and ridicule His followers for following things “made up” by the ancients people are still with us in the present!

    And that’s the beauty of the Qur’an. Regardless of the time period, it will always be relevant, because it will always serve as a mirror to the souls of humanity.
    All your quote shows that there have always been smart people who realized the vacuousness of religious peddlers. Christians, Muslims, Mormons... they all have their stories about "unbelievers" who point out how ridiculous their beliefs are. And curiously the response is always the same: don't argue with facts, because you have none, but instead blame the unbelievers for being deluded or ignorant or controlled by Satan or whatever. Scam artists always protect their own scams.
     
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    Lemon

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    Anything that distracts man from the remembrance of Allah is haram. This is precisely why the Prophet said that everything in this world- except good deeds and prayer- is cursed.

    However, not everyone was destined to be a prophet, and not everyone has the mental capacity to be a saint. Allah is only concerned with the content of a man’s heart, and humans were manufactured to sin. In other words, a man who lived an entirely sinful life may end up in heaven, while someone who did his best to avoid all worldly pleasures may not!

    The majority of people don’t know what the hell is going on anyway, which explains why the Prophet said that heaven is mostly filled with naive and clueless people.
    Now you are being inconsistent. First you claim that Islam is better than Christianity because it doesn't prohibit people from enjoying sex or other worldly pleasures. And then in the next breath you go on about these things being cursed and distracting. So what did you god create these distractions?

    And more importantly, how are these views any better than the Christian or Jewish or any other religion's? Most religions have their stupid taboos, like not eating pork or fish on Fridays or foreskins. You think your choice of superstition is better than anyone else's, when in reality (from atheistic perspective) it's like the special olympics: even if you sometimes win, you are still handicapped.
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    All your quote shows that there have always been smart people who realized the vacuousness of religious peddlers. Christians, Muslims, Mormons... they all have their stories about "unbelievers" who point out how ridiculous their beliefs are. And curiously the response is always the same: don't argue with facts, because you have none, but instead blame the unbelievers for being deluded or ignorant or controlled by Satan or whatever. Scam artists always protect their own scams.
    “Religious peddlers.”

    The people who mocked God’s prophets (and still do) were still “religious” at their own level. They simply had a different creed; yes, the tribes who attempted to extinguish Islam in its nascent days were pagan.

    It all comes down to identity. In the void of religion, people will identify themselves with something else, and these days it’s mostly Communism that seems to offer the “best” alternative for a spiritually-starved world. It’s pretty much its own religion (theirs even a heaven included!), minus the Godhead.
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Now you are being inconsistent. First you claim that Islam is better than Christianity because it doesn't prohibit people from enjoying sex or other worldly pleasures. And then in the next breath you go on about these things being cursed and distracting. So what did you god create these distractions?
    No! I don’t claim that Islam is “better“ than anything, as that would not make any sense.

    Islam is a verb. It is an action. Islam literally means “submission to Allah” ( The Reality). Everything in the universe is in submission to Allah (The Reality), willingly or unwillingly. The only point of Islam as revealed by the prophets (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad) was to teach mankind how to submit willingly.

    I think Christianity is nice and all, but ultimately, it has nothing to do with Reality. Reality is in the present! It’s this very moment! This is why “being present in the moment” is rooted in the meditational practices of far-eastern philosophies, something New-Age Western teachers (like Eckhart Tolle) draw heavily from.

    And more importantly, how are these views any better than the Christian or Jewish or any other religion's? Most religions have their stupid taboos, like not eating pork or fish on Fridays or foreskins. You think your choice of superstition is better than anyone else's, when in reality (from atheistic perspective) it's like the special olympics: even if you sometimes win, you are still handicapped.
    Again, identity. Religion as a set of “rules” and/or “perspectives” that a person of faith must abide to is not the same as being in harmony with the Truth. There was no such thing as “Christianity” at the time of Jesus, nor things like Sunni or Shiite at the time of the Prophet.

    These conceptual nuances formed and evolved throughout time, and have become a major aspect of people’s overall identity and personality. It’s not a question of which one is right, because they all essentially come from the same Source. Unlike Judaism and Christianity, however, Islam operates on the very premise of Reality! Submission to Allah precedes all forms of thought-concepts produced by the ego (or human personality).

    If Christians want to believe that Jesus died for them and loves them to death- that’s fine with me. But Reality continues onward, never stopping, and as long as they keep sticking to a thought-concept that passed us 2,000 years ago, don’t expect much from them. They cling to the past, but Allah Encompasses all of creation in all its respective dimensions; indeed, He is the Only One, Lord of the worlds, The Absolute.
     
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    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    No! I don’t claim that Islam is “better“ than anything, as that would not make any sense.

    Islam is a verb. It is an action. Islam literally means “submission to Allah” ( The Reality). Everything in the universe is in submission to Allah (The Reality), willingly or unwillingly. The only point of Islam as revealed by the prophets (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad) was to teach mankind how to submit willingly.

    I think Christianity is nice and all, but ultimately, it has nothing to do with Reality. Reality is in the present! It’s this very moment! This is why “being present in the moment” is rooted in the meditational practices of far-eastern philosophies, something New-Age Western teachers (like Eckhart Tolle) draw heavily from.



    Again, identity. Religion as a set of “rules” and/or “perspectives” that a person of faith must abide to is not the same as being in harmony with the Truth. There was no such thing as “Christianity” at the time of Jesus, nor things like Sunni or Shiite at the time of the Prophet.

    These conceptual nuances formed and evolved throughout time, and have become a major aspect of people’s overall identity and personality. It’s not a question of which one is right, because they all essentially come from the same Source. Unlike Judaism and Christianity, however, Islam operates on the very premise of Reality! Submission to Allah precedes all forms of thought-concepts produced by the ego (or human personality).

    If Christians want to believe that Jesus died for them and loves them to death- that’s fine with me. But Reality continues onward, never stopping, and as long as they keep sticking to a thought-concept that passed us 2,000 years ago, don’t expect much from them. They cling to the past, but Allah Encompasses all of creation in all its respective dimensions; indeed, He is the Only One, Lord of the worlds, The Absolute.
    “islam operates on the very premise of reality” 😂😂

    ma ba3ref men wen bet jiboun ya zalame, but if there is one thing clear abt islam is that it has no idea abt reality and prones a very violent philosophy of inequality and death all the while its followers are more stubborn than a brick wall because of the fear it instills in them, 0 introspection and 0 questionning of the morals that were developped by bedouins 16 centuries ago 😂😂
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    I left Islam years ago, yeah ma ktir msharda2 fi la hal deen.
    Thankfully, Islam still seems to be a part of you, as you can’t seem to get away from the “deep into Islam” thread.

    There’s always hope. 😇
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    “islam operates on the very premise of reality” 😂😂

    ma ba3ref men wen bet jiboun ya zalame, but if there is one thing clear abt islam is that it has no idea abt reality and prones a very violent philosophy of inequality and death all the while its followers are more stubborn than a brick wall because of the fear it instills in them, 0 introspection and 0 questionning of the morals that were developped by bedouins 16 centuries ago 😂😂
    Now you’re just describing third-world brown peoples like yourself.

    You need to project all that insecurity and low self-esteem onto Islam (while calling yourself gay), just so you can feel better about yourself. Pathetic.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    Now you’re just describing third-world brown peoples like yourself.

    You need to project all that insecurity and low self-esteem onto Islam (while calling yourself gay), just so you can feel better about yourself. Pathetic.
    @SeaAb chou byerba7 ma3na el akh?
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    At CIA, a convert to Islam leads the terrorism hunt

    Who would have thought, a CIA agent working for Trump and responsible for killing Suleimani is a Muslim.

    Of course, Islam is for people from all walks of life, even if they happen to be white men from the American South. Turning the West Muslim can bring Islam back to its former glory.

    We can’t keep relying on third-world brown peoples to spread the Light....
     
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