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Polytheism, the belief in many gods. Polytheism characterizes virtually all religions other than Judaism,Christianity, and Islam, which share a common tradition of monotheism, the belief in one God.

Sometimes above the many gods a polytheistic religion will have a supreme creator and focus of devotion, as in certain phases of Hinduism(there is also the tendency to identify the many gods as so many aspects of the Supreme Being); sometimes the gods are considered as less important than some higher goal, state, or saviour, as in Buddhism; sometimes one god will prove more dominant than the others without attaining overall supremacy, as Zeus in Greek religion. Typically, polytheistic cultures include belief in many demonic and ghostly forces in addition to the gods, and some supernatural beings will be malevolent; even in monotheistic religions there can be belief in many demons, as in New Testament Christianity.

Polytheism can bear various relationships to other beliefs. It can be incompatible with some forms oftheism, as in the Semitic religions; it can coexist with theism, as in Vaishnavism; it can exist at a lower level of understanding, ultimately to be transcended, as in Mahayana Buddhism; and it can exist as a tolerated adjunct to belief in transcendental liberation, as in Theravada Buddhism.

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    If you're gunna believe in fairytales, I'd say being a polytheist is the way to go. Why have one god when you can have more?!
     
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    I have serious doubts whether Islam and Christianity are monotheists. Abraham was, but not Muslims or Christians.

    The fact that Muslims equate Mohamed with God in their first pillar is indicative of two gods. This is also evident in the authority that Mohamed Hadith presents to Muslims, something of the same value as the Koran and even more authoritative. So, even if they do not call Mohamed god, Mohamed is a god for Muslims.
     
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    Great Mother of the Gods


    Great Mother of the Gods, also called Cybele, Cybebe, or Agdistis, ancient Oriental and Greco-Roman deity, known by a variety of local names; the name Cybele or Cybebe predominates in Greek and Roman literature from about the 5th century bc onward. Her full official Roman name was Mater Deum Magna Idaea (Great Idaean Mother of the Gods).

    Legends agree in locating the rise of the worship of the Great Mother in the general area of Phrygia in Asia Minor (now in west-central Turkey), and during classical times her cult centre was at goddess Rhea and finally identified the two completely.

    During Hannibal’s invasion of Italy in 204 bc, the Romans followed a Sibylline prophecy that the enemy could be expelled and conquered if the “Idaean Mother” were brought to Rome, together with her sacred symbol, a small stone reputed to have fallen from the heavens. Her identification by the Romans with the goddesses Maia, Ops, Rhea, Tellus, and Ceres contributed to the establishment of her worship on a firm footing. By the end of the Roman Republic it had attained prominence, and under the empire it became one of the most important cults in the Roman world.

    In all of her aspects, Roman, Greek, and Oriental, the Great Mother was characterized by essentially the same qualities. Most prominent among them was her universal motherhood. She was the great parent not only of gods but also of human beings and beasts. She was called the Mountain Mother, and special emphasis was placed on her maternity over wild nature; this was manifested by the orgiastic character of her worship. Her mythical attendants, the Corybantes, were wild, half-demonic beings. Her priests, theGalli, castrated themselves on entering her service. The self-mutilation was justified by the myth that her lover, the fertility god Attis, had emasculated himself under a pine tree, where he bled to death. At Cybele’s annual festival (March 15–27), a pine tree was cut and brought to her shrine, where it was honoured as a god and adorned with violets considered to have sprung from the blood of Attis. On March 24, the “Day of Blood,” her chief priest, thearchigallus, drew blood from his arms and offered it to her to the music of cymbals, drums, and flutes, while the lower clergy whirled madly and slashed themselves to bespatter the altar and the sacred pine with their blood. On March 27 the silver statue of the goddess, with the sacred stone set in its head, was borne in procession and bathed in the Almo, a tributary of the Tiber River.

    Mother goddess figures are found in almost every ancient religion, but these figures, who were usually only goddesses of fertility and reproduction in general, should not be confused with the Great Mother of the Gods, who was regarded as the giver of life to gods, human beings, and beasts alike.

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    Echo


    In Greek mythology, Echo (/ˈɛkoʊ/; Greek: Ἠχώ, Ēkhō, "echo",[3] from ἦχος (ēchos), "sound"[4]) was an Oread who resided on Mount Cithaeron.[5]Zeus loved consorting with beautiful nymphs and often visited them on Earth. Eventually, Zeus's wife, Hera, became suspicious, and came from Mt. Olympus in an attempt to catch Zeus with the nymphs. Echo, by trying to protect Zeus, endured Hera's wrath, and Hera made her only able to speak the last few words spoken to her. So when Echo met Narcissus and fell in love with him, she was unable to tell him how she felt and was forced to watch him as he fell in love with himself.


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    The Son of God is the Sun of God!

     
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    The Son of God is the Sun of God!

    Picasso: "Oh look a well-produced 30 minute video attacking Christianity!"

    *watches 2 minutes of it and posts it on Oroom*

    *feels good about himself*

    Picasso my dear, you have the right to hate Christianity as much as you want but I'm sorry to tell that the video above is absolute horse-manure.

    Take Horus for example, his birth was celebrated in late August not December. He was also not born to a Virgin. No star in the east. etc.

    Krishna's birth date is celebrated in July, and is the 8th born son, so his mother is definitely not a virgin. No star in the east. etc.

    The same with Dionysius and others.
     
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    What's also laughable is the suggestion that Sun of God became Son of God as if they spoke English at the time of Christ.

    Sun in Aramaic is Samsa, while Son in Aramaic is Ban or Bar I don't remember to be honest. But who cares about facts, right?
     
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    What's also laughable is the suggestion that Sun of God became Son of God as if they spoke English at the time of Christ.

    Sun in Aramaic is Samsa, while Son in Aramaic is Ban or Bar I don't remember to be honest. But who cares about facts, right?
    The somber background music coupled with some quotes, makes it factual.
     
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    I have serious doubts whether Islam and Christianity are monotheists. Abraham was, but not Muslims or Christians.

    The fact that Muslims equate Mohamed with God in their first pillar is indicative of two gods. This is also evident in the authority that Mohamed Hadith presents to Muslims, something of the same value as the Koran and even more authoritative. So, even if they do not call Mohamed god, Mohamed is a god for Muslims.
    :lol:
    I expected you to try and prove that Allah for muslims is 'Lat', 'Monat', and 'Uzza' --the daughters-- combined into one. That would have made more sense. But Mohammad is a god, now that's a new one))
     
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    I think its Bar
    Regardless of that, the irony is that Horus was not even the sun god, he was mostly associated with a falcon, and in some very small instances to the sun itself, but not as a sun God. The excerpt here, is taken from the silly Zeitgeist movie that was spread a few years back, it was full of nonsense, pseudoscience, and claims out of the minds of those who created the video (not just on religions on several other things). But, hey, as long as George Carlin is combined with it, it must be legit.
     
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    :lol:
    I expected you to try and prove that Allah for muslims is 'Lat', 'Monat', and 'Uzza' --the daughters-- combined into one. That would have made more sense. But Mohammad is a god, now that's a new one))
    Muslims require mediums to connect with God like the Koran. They believe in a myth that says God has books. This is write them. He sends Prophets to publish his books. :lol:
     
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    Muslims require mediums to connect with God like the Koran. They believe in a myth that says God has books. This is write them. He sends Prophets to publish his books. :lol:
    Which muslims? Muslims differ about the Quran; some say it's ancient i.e before creation آزلي (salafi); some claim it is 'created' (the Mu'tazila); some say it is 'brought into being' مُحدَث (shia).

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    Quran was not written and was not supposed to be written آناجيلهم في صدورهم they memorize it. It was put into paper during Othman khilafa after Muhamad's death, and there were around 7 Qurans or more, all were burned and we're left with the one we have today.

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    Still I can't see how muslims equate Mohamad with allah/god...
     
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    Which muslims? Muslims differ about the Quran; some say it's ancient i.e before creation آزلي (salafi); some claim it is 'created' (the Mu'tazila); some say it is 'brought into being' مُحدَث (shia).

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    Quran was not written and was not supposed to be written آناجيلهم في صدورهم they memorize it. It was put into paper during Othman khilafa after Muhamad's death, and there were around 7 Qurans or more, all were burned and we're left with the one we have today.

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    Still I can't see how muslims equate Mohamad with allah/god...
    all muslims.

    no matter their proclaimed difference on the topic, equating or uniting the quran to allah (in a fundamental aspect) is logically entailed by a fundamental premise they all share necessarily, and which is: the quran = the speech of allah, or 'quran says' is 'allah says'. equating or uniting muhamad in the same manner is entailed in practice if not in the (otherwise conflicting and enforced) theory. and by 'conflicting theory' it is meant something such as "no man or created entity is or can be medium/mediator between allah and creation - except that muhamad/quran/angels/jins/.. are", or "muhamad/quran/angels.. are not medium/mediators between allah and creation, in fact no created entity is, except that 'muhamad/quran/angel/...' says is 'allah says'"

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    'quran is created and not also uncreated' entails 'quran, or allah in the quran, says' =! 'allah says', or = 'allah says' but allah is then created/creation

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    Naiad


    In Greek mythology, the Naiads (/ˈnaɪædz, -ədz/; Greek: Ναϊάδες) are a type of female spirit, or nymph, presiding over fountains, wells, springs, streams, brooks and other bodies of fresh water.

    They are distinct from river gods, who embodied rivers, and the very ancient spirits that inhabited the still waters of marshes, ponds and lagoon-lakes, such as pre-Mycenaean Lerna in the Argolis.

    Naiads were associated with fresh water, as the Oceanids were with saltwater and the Nereids specifically with the Mediterranean, but because the ancient Greeks thought of the world's waters as all one system, which percolated in from the sea in deep cavernous spaces within the earth, there was some overlap. Arethusa, the nymph of a spring, could make her way through subterranean flows from the Peloponnesus to surface on the island of Sicily.


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    Siren


    In Greek mythology, the Sirens (Greek singular: Σειρήν, Seirḗn; Greek plural: Σειρῆνες, Seirênes) were dangerous creatures, who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and singing voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island. Roman poets placed them on some small islands called Sirenum scopuli. In some later, rationalized traditions, the literal geography of the "flowery" island of Anthemoessa, or Anthemusa,[1] is fixed: sometimes on Cape Pelorum and at others in the islands known as the Sirenuse, near Paestum, or in Capreae.[2] All such locations were surrounded by cliffs and rocks.

    According to the Greek Neoplatonist philosopher Proclus, Plato said there were three kinds of sirens: the celestial, the generative, and the purificatory / cathartic. The first were under the government of Zeus, the second under that of Poseidon, and the third of Hades. When the soul is in heaven the sirens seek, by harmonic motion, to unite it to the divine life of the celestial host; and when in Hades, to conform the soul to eternal infernal regimen; but when on earth their only job to "produce generation, of which the sea is emblematic".[3]

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