Deep into the 12 lebanese christian sects

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  • Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    @Rachel Corrie I hope this answers your question.

    In Summary
    1. Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox believers both believe in the same God.
    2. Roman Catholics deem the Pope as infallible, while Greek Orthodox believers don’t.
    3. Roman Catholics believe that Mary is free from original sin, while Greek Orthodox believers don’t.
    4. Roman Catholic priests cannot marry, while priests in the Greek Orthodox can marry before they are ordinated.
    5. Latin is the main language used during Roman Catholic services, while Greek Orthodox churches use native languages.
    6. Roman Catholics venerate statues a much as Greek Orthodox believers venerate icons.
    7. Doctrines can be changed in Roman Catholicism, as opposed to Greek Orthodox.
    8. Unlike Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox believers do not accept the concepts of purgatory and Stations of the Cross
    Thank you very much for your input.

    Ive heard the names of these groups but I really had very little idea about them. And we are of the same country. I hope we can get more details from others too.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    Thank you very much for your input.

    Ive heard the names of these groups but I really had very little idea about them. And we are of the same country. I hope we can get more details from others too.
    No worries mate. We should know more about one another we are from the same country.
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    Please google: "John 3:16 interpolations"

    I dont want to go into that and derail the thread further. Pls let's stick to the topic. Thanks
    @Nasser @Iron Maiden @Muki
    We should meet and issue a warning to everyone inno mamnoo3 7adan yde2 bi sala7iyetna. Ma lezem ne2bal yseer fi 3orf jdeed. :shifty:
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    Please google: "John 3:16 interpolations"

    I dont want to go into that and derail the thread further. Pls let's stick to the topic. Thanks
    so i googled that and it takes you to islamreligion.com and some weird blogs. but it is interesting that you exhibit the scientific curiosity to try (though without success) to academically invalidate that verse from John's gospel claiming interpolation, while you turn a blind eye on the factually wrong narrative the quran presents about Christianity. don't you ever wonder how on earth you subscribe to a book that tells you a falsified version of reality, ignoring thousands upon thousands of records? riddled with falsehoods on all sorts of topics.. and yet here you are :)

    as far as i am concerned, this is the only miracle of the quran, it has managed to blind so many for so long.
     
    Dark Angel

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    The catholics in leb are 1.2 million so thats all the catholics including maronites.
    The Roum Orthodox number 400K and the armenian orthodox which are 80% of the Armenians in leb number about 100-120K. There are big differences between the two catholic and orthodox and even amongst the catholic sects.
    care to list these "big" differences? please list them with proper references, if you do not have the references do not bother.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    care to list these "big" differences? please list them with proper references, if you do not have the references do not bother.
    There are differences and you know what they are. I dont need references.
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    There are differences and you know what they are. I dont need references.
    they are minor differences. though people and some clergy tend to amplify that. there is no disagreement over the trinity, Christ, and so on. and as far as Christians are concerned, at least from the perspective we have experienced in Lebanon, there is no discrimination by denomination on the level of the masses, Catholics, Maronites, Orthodox are all equally inclusive just other denominations just as they are towards their own.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    they are minor differences. though people and some clergy tend to amplify that. there is no disagreement over the trinity, Christ, and so on. and as far as Christians are concerned, at least from the perspective we have experienced in Lebanon, there is no discrimination by denomination on the level of the masses, Catholics, Maronites, Orthodox are all equally inclusive just other denominations just as they are towards their own.
    There are big differences.
    1. The Pope
    2. Original sin
    3. Priests getting married
    Etc
    They tried to have a few years ago Easter at the same time not each one different times ma zabtet. the only thing li zabat houwe the Roum instead of having their christmas in Jan they celebrate on 25th Dec li houwe ghalat. They should be celebrating like any orthodox in the world in Jan.
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    There are big differences.
    1. The Pope
    2. Original sin
    3. Priests getting married
    Etc
    They tried to have a few years ago Easter at the same time not each one different times ma zabtet. the only thing li zabat houwe the Roum instead of having their christmas in Jan they celebrate on 25th Dec li houwe ghalat. They should be celebrating like any orthodox in the world in Jan.
    there are no differences over the original sin, there are theological nuances between fallen nature of man and the fallen man. none of these are big differences. the doctrine and the theology and the books are pretty much the same, you can read theological books and not know whether they written by a Catholic or an Orthodox. not all Catholic priests cannot marry, Maronites for instance can marry before they obtain their priesthood. not after however. these are also insignificant details as far as Christianity is concerned, so are the difference in the dates and so on.

    the main difference is in the reverence of the saints and Mary, however these are still insignificant issues, because all the churches agree that these are mostly interpolations and postulations, the fundamentals revolving around Christ and the faith in Christ are the same, and this is what matters in Christianity, everything else are pretty much niceties.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    there are no differences over the original sin, there are theological nuances between fallen nature of man and the fallen man. none of these are big differences. the doctrine and the theology and the books are pretty much the same, you can read theological books and not know whether they written by a Catholic or an Orthodox. not all Catholic priests cannot marry, Maronites for instance can marry before they obtain their priesthood. not after however. these are also insignificant details as far as Christianity is concerned, so are the difference in the dates and so on.

    the main difference is in the reverence of the saints and Mary, however these are still insignificant issues, because all the churches agree that these are mostly interpolations and postulations, the fundamentals revolving around Christ and the faith in Christ are the same, and this is what matters in Christianity, everything else are pretty much niceties.
    In the Catholics they believe that Mary is free of sin but the Orthodox believe that Mary is not free of sin.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    @Dark Angel
    Eastern Orthodoxy accepts the doctrine of ancestral sin: "Original sin is hereditary. It did not remain only Adam and Eve's. As life passes from them to all of their descendants, so does original sin. "As from an infected source there naturally flows an infected stream, so from a father infected with sin, and consequently mortal, there naturally proceeds a posterity infected like him with sin, and like him mortal.

    This is not the same for Catholics.
     
    Manifesto

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    What does Christianity say about fate? Do Christians believe that God has predetermined our path?

    One of the most logically-flawed beliefs about Islam is the idea that a man's fate is decided by God.
    If one is pre-destined to sin, why punish him for that sin?
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    What does Christianity say about fate? Do Christians believe that God has predetermined our path?

    One of the most logically-flawed beliefs about Islam is the idea that a man's fate is decided by God.
    If one is pre-destined to sin, why punish him for that sin?
    Orthodox Church teaches that no one is guilty for the actual sin they(Adam) committed but rather everyone inherits the consequences of this act; the foremost of this is physical death in this world. . The consequences and penalties of this ancestral act are transferred by means of natural heredity to the entire human race. Since every human is a descendant of Adam then 'no one is free from the implications of this sin' (which is human death) and that the only way to be freed from this is through christening.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    Anyway we dont want this to become another religious post. Just trying to answer the question there are differences between all the churches and what numbers there are in lebanon.
     
    TayyarBeino

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    وتين: علينا تقديم دعم خاص لمسيحيي الشرق الأوسط
    الاثنين ١٨ آذار ٢٠١٩ 20:21النشرة الدولية



    أكد الرئيس الروسي فلاديمير بوتين أن "المسيحيين في الشرق الأوسط لا يزالون يعيشون في ظروف صعبة وهم في حاجة ماسة إلى الدعم والمساعدة"، مشيراً إلى أن "هذا الوضع قضية مهمة جدا. والشرق الأوسط، كما نعلم جميعا، يمثل مهد المسيحية. ووجد أتباع هذه الديانة أنفسهم في ظروف صعبة للغاية وهم بلا شك يحتاجون إلى الدعم العام من قبلنا".
    وشدد بوتين على أن "روسيا هي دولة متعددة الديانات"، مضيفا: "هذا الأمر يتناسب تماما مع ما نفعله في سوريان إذ نتعامل مع المسلمين أيضا باحترام بالغ. ونحن نبكي مع كل العالم على ضحايا الإرهابيين في نيوزيلندا"، لافتا إلى أنه "في الشرق الأوسط يجب علينا بالطبع أن نركز اليوم اهتماما خاص على مسيحيي المنطقة الذين ينبغي أن نقدم لهم دعما خاصا".

     
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