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Demand for egg freezing growing rapidly

!Aoune32

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BEIRUT: Big companies such as Facebook and Apple are offering egg freezing to their female employees, and demand for this service continues to increase around the world, with Lebanon no exception. Fertility specialists say the number of women in the country seeking the pricey procedure is growing rapidly.
Egg freezing has typically been offered for medical reasons, often to preserve the eggs of patients who are about to undergo cancer treatment and risk becoming sterile as a result of chemotherapy or radiotherapy.
But with improved technology, doctors have started offering egg freezing to a wider range of people.
For some years now, women who have anticipated starting a family at a later date for “social” reasons – i.e. nonmedical reasons – have also had the chance to freeze their eggs for later use.
Rania (not her real name) is an assistant university professor.
The 36-year-old has gone through the egg-freezing procedure twice already and is prepared to go through it twice more.
Each additional time increases the chances of success.
By freezing her eggs, Rania hopes she will be able to start a family at a later stage. “I am getting older and my biological clock is ticking, but I do not have an official relationship and so getting pregnant will take a while,” she told The Daily Star.
According to Dr. Gael Abou Ghannam, a gynecologist and obstetrician at Bellevue Medical Center in Mansourieh, many women choose to freeze their eggs because they don’t have a partner. She attributes the struggle to find a partner to the skewed gender ratio in Lebanon.
“There are women who can’t find partners all over the world, but here in Lebanon specifically, because ... lots of men [have emigrated] to the UAE, the U.S., Europe or other places. So we have fewer men than women here,” she said.
Nevertheless, delaying marriage has become a trend for women and men alike. Reasons for this tendency in Lebanon include high unemployment rates, low wages, the costliness of marriage and housing, and increased levels of education – especially among women.
Rania said her choice to delay starting a family could also be attributed to the demands of her career. “My work is occupying the majority of my time and might be preventing me from having solid and serious personal relationships,” she said.
But she noted that many of her female colleagues had married and started families while successfully maintaining their career.
“In my case, it happened that I am the kind of person who is very work-oriented,” she said.
Still, according to the doctors The Daily Star spoke to, Rania’s case is typical, and the people who most often come to them for egg freezing are well-educated career women.
“Some want to continue high-level education and some are career women and they travel a lot. They don’t have time to settle down and get married yet,” Dr. Antoine Abu-Musa, an obstetrician and gynecologist at the American University of Beirut Medical Center, said.
Egg freezing, Abu-Musa argues, empowers women by eliminating the difficult choice between maintaining a career and starting a family. “All of a sudden she finds herself in the late 30s and she struggles to have children because of age. If she had her eggs frozen at 30 she is not under that pressure,” he said.
A survey conducted by job site Bayt.com in 2017, published under the title “Working Women in the Middle East and North Africa,” showed that 88 percent of Lebanese respondents were employed in mixed-gender workspaces – the highest percentage in the region.
However, few notable amendments have been made to labor and social security laws to accommodate women in the workforce.
Paid paternity leave, which can help relieve the effect of childbirth on a woman’s career, is stipulated to be one day only – although a proposal to extend it to three days is currently awaiting ratification by Parliament. By contrast, paternity leave in Germany is 14 months.
Leah (not her real name) has felt the negative consequences that starting a family can have on a career. During her second pregnancy, the management at her high-profile company started pressuring her to leave her job of six years because of what they saw as her reduced performance.
“I was so in shock that I could have lost the baby. It’s not ethical,” she told The Daily Star.
Leah recalled how working long, set hours while being pregnant nearly wore her out.
“There was no flexibility ... so it was really difficult to juggle both lives. That’s why most women leave their jobs when they have a baby,” she said. “Honestly, I thought I was never going to be one of these women because I really worked hard all these years to make it. ... But you can’t focus on both; either there’s going to be a lack in [bringing up] your kids or lack in your job.”
Where labor laws fail to protect young women’s careers, egg freezing offers itself as a solution – one that comes at a high price. “The cost is around $2,000, and the medication is between $600-$800. And then you have to pay per year a fee of around $250 [to store the eggs],” Dr. Ziad Massaad of private fertility clinic IVF Lebanon explained.
These costs, Abou Ghannam said, mean the procedure is accessible only to a high-earning few.
Although some women are postponing starting a family to focus on their careers, Abou Ghannam warns against applying this conclusion to everyone. “Yes, [the profile of the women who seek egg freezing] is high-education, high-salary career women, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they [are freezing their eggs because they] prioritize their career. I think they do it because they don’t have a partner ... and if they don’t have a partner, of course the career is going to become a priority,” Abou Ghannam said.


Demand for egg freezing growing rapidly

i suggest one really evaluates his priorities and see what best suits him/her. if one wants children and a family she needs to sacrifice. she can't do both.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
How about we stop endoctrinating women with the idea that they can have it all and do it all and we tell them the truth: if you want a family, you have to plan for it and behave accordingly, starting in your early twenties.

Just like you can't have a successful career without planning, working, and sacrificing for it, you can't have a successful family without planning, working, and sacrificing for it.

Women in this generation have been cheated with a big, fat lie, and now they're dealing with the consequences.
 

Iron Maiden

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BEIRUT: Big companies such as Facebook and Apple are offering egg freezing to their female employees, and demand for this service continues to increase around the world, with Lebanon no exception. Fertility specialists say the number of women in the country seeking the pricey procedure is growing rapidly.
Egg freezing has typically been offered for medical reasons, often to preserve the eggs of patients who are about to undergo cancer treatment and risk becoming sterile as a result of chemotherapy or radiotherapy.
But with improved technology, doctors have started offering egg freezing to a wider range of people.
For some years now, women who have anticipated starting a family at a later date for “social” reasons – i.e. nonmedical reasons – have also had the chance to freeze their eggs for later use.
Rania (not her real name) is an assistant university professor.
The 36-year-old has gone through the egg-freezing procedure twice already and is prepared to go through it twice more.
Each additional time increases the chances of success.
By freezing her eggs, Rania hopes she will be able to start a family at a later stage. “I am getting older and my biological clock is ticking, but I do not have an official relationship and so getting pregnant will take a while,” she told The Daily Star.
According to Dr. Gael Abou Ghannam, a gynecologist and obstetrician at Bellevue Medical Center in Mansourieh, many women choose to freeze their eggs because they don’t have a partner. She attributes the struggle to find a partner to the skewed gender ratio in Lebanon.
“There are women who can’t find partners all over the world, but here in Lebanon specifically, because ... lots of men [have emigrated] to the UAE, the U.S., Europe or other places. So we have fewer men than women here,” she said.
Nevertheless, delaying marriage has become a trend for women and men alike. Reasons for this tendency in Lebanon include high unemployment rates, low wages, the costliness of marriage and housing, and increased levels of education – especially among women.
Rania said her choice to delay starting a family could also be attributed to the demands of her career. “My work is occupying the majority of my time and might be preventing me from having solid and serious personal relationships,” she said.
But she noted that many of her female colleagues had married and started families while successfully maintaining their career.
“In my case, it happened that I am the kind of person who is very work-oriented,” she said.
Still, according to the doctors The Daily Star spoke to, Rania’s case is typical, and the people who most often come to them for egg freezing are well-educated career women.
“Some want to continue high-level education and some are career women and they travel a lot. They don’t have time to settle down and get married yet,” Dr. Antoine Abu-Musa, an obstetrician and gynecologist at the American University of Beirut Medical Center, said.
Egg freezing, Abu-Musa argues, empowers women by eliminating the difficult choice between maintaining a career and starting a family. “All of a sudden she finds herself in the late 30s and she struggles to have children because of age. If she had her eggs frozen at 30 she is not under that pressure,” he said.
A survey conducted by job site Bayt.com in 2017, published under the title “Working Women in the Middle East and North Africa,” showed that 88 percent of Lebanese respondents were employed in mixed-gender workspaces – the highest percentage in the region.
However, few notable amendments have been made to labor and social security laws to accommodate women in the workforce.
Paid paternity leave, which can help relieve the effect of childbirth on a woman’s career, is stipulated to be one day only – although a proposal to extend it to three days is currently awaiting ratification by Parliament. By contrast, paternity leave in Germany is 14 months.
Leah (not her real name) has felt the negative consequences that starting a family can have on a career. During her second pregnancy, the management at her high-profile company started pressuring her to leave her job of six years because of what they saw as her reduced performance.
“I was so in shock that I could have lost the baby. It’s not ethical,” she told The Daily Star.
Leah recalled how working long, set hours while being pregnant nearly wore her out.
“There was no flexibility ... so it was really difficult to juggle both lives. That’s why most women leave their jobs when they have a baby,” she said. “Honestly, I thought I was never going to be one of these women because I really worked hard all these years to make it. ... But you can’t focus on both; either there’s going to be a lack in [bringing up] your kids or lack in your job.”
Where labor laws fail to protect young women’s careers, egg freezing offers itself as a solution – one that comes at a high price. “The cost is around $2,000, and the medication is between $600-$800. And then you have to pay per year a fee of around $250 [to store the eggs],” Dr. Ziad Massaad of private fertility clinic IVF Lebanon explained.
These costs, Abou Ghannam said, mean the procedure is accessible only to a high-earning few.
Although some women are postponing starting a family to focus on their careers, Abou Ghannam warns against applying this conclusion to everyone. “Yes, [the profile of the women who seek egg freezing] is high-education, high-salary career women, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they [are freezing their eggs because they] prioritize their career. I think they do it because they don’t have a partner ... and if they don’t have a partner, of course the career is going to become a priority,” Abou Ghannam said.


Demand for egg freezing growing rapidly

i suggest one really evaluates his priorities and see what best suits him/her. if one wants children and a family she needs to sacrifice. she can't do both.
How about we stop endoctrinating women with the idea that they can have it all and do it all and we tell them the truth: if you want a family, you have to plan for it and behave accordingly, starting in your early twenties.

Just like you can't have a successful career without planning, working, and sacrificing for it, you can't have a successful family without planning, working, and sacrificing for it.

Women in this generation have been cheated with a big, fat lie, and now they're dealing with the consequences.

You should add to that the drastically low chances of successful freezing after 35, the big number of eggs needed and the chance oif it working once they want to use them which a 1:15 chance if am not mistaken.

One should also factor in the reality of society that men in their 30s are less likely to look for a woman in her thirties who just decided that shes ready, than fir a woman in her mid to late 20s who doesnt need egg freezing. Its just a physiological contest.

Workplace policies should not be pressuring women to postpone their lives for a career, u can manage both at the same time.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
You should add to that the drastically low chances of successful freezing after 35, the big number of eggs needed and the chance oif it working once they want to use them which a 1:15 chance if am not mistaken.

One should also factor in the reality of society that men in their 30s are less likely to look for a woman in her thirties who just decided that shes ready, than fir a woman in her mid to late 20s who doesnt need egg freezing. Its just a physiological contest.

Workplace policies should not be pressuring women to postpone their lives for a career, u can manage both at the same time.

Not to mention that children are not merchandise. Between anonymous sperm banks, egg freezing, abortions, and everything else, motherhood (and parenthood in general) is now more about the "parents" needs than the children's. People want to be parents...but for what? Where is the love and the willingness to sacrifice? They're already exterminating babies with down syndrome...soon people will demand the ability to choose what colour eyes and hair their baby has. It's truly disturbing.
 

Lemon

Well-Known Member
Not to mention that children are not merchandise. Between anonymous sperm banks, egg freezing, abortions, and everything else, motherhood (and parenthood in general) is now more about the "parents" needs than the children's. People want to be parents...but for what? Where is the love and the willingness to sacrifice? They're already exterminating babies with down syndrome...soon people will demand the ability to choose what colour eyes and hair their baby has. It's truly disturbing.
I think that's awesome. Genetic disease can be weeded out, and parents can get healthier children. Cosmetic changes are of course also coming. Imagine doing your kid a favor that he won't have a unibrow or doesn't go bald at 20?

But these services should be available to everyone, not just the rich.
 

!Aoune32

Well-Known Member
I think that's awesome. Genetic disease can be weeded out, and parents can get healthier children. Cosmetic changes are of course also coming. Imagine doing your kid a favor that he won't have a unibrow or doesn't go bald at 20?

But these services should be available to everyone, not just the rich.

We shouldn't be playing GOD. This is wrong and not wanted.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I think that's awesome. Genetic disease can be weeded out, and parents can get healthier children. Cosmetic changes are of course also coming. Imagine doing your kid a favor that he won't have a unibrow or doesn't go bald at 20?

But these services should be available to everyone, not just the rich.

The biggest favour we can do for our children is to leave them a world in which love trumps the shape of people's eyebrows.

What we need to eradicate are the diseases of the soul; among them, superficiality and vanity.
 

Lemon

Well-Known Member
The biggest favour we can do for our children is to leave them a world in which love trumps the shape of people's eyebrows.

What we need to eradicate are the diseases of the soul; among them, superficiality and vanity.
We don't know the genes for superficiality and vanity. There are likely no such genes, as these behaviours probably stem from upbringing rather than genestics. On the other hand, the genetic basis for some superficial traits such as hair or eye color are well-known and relatively easy to do, so they will be among the first things that parents can tweak.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
We don't know the genes for superficiality and vanity. There are likely no such genes, as these behaviours probably stem from upbringing rather than genestics. On the other hand, the genetic basis for some superficial traits such as hair or eye color are well-known and relatively easy to do, so they will be among the first things that parents can tweak.

Way to miss the point...
 

Elvis left the building

Legendary Member
How about we stop endoctrinating women with the idea that they can have it all and do it all and we tell them the truth: if you want a family, you have to plan for it and behave accordingly, starting in your early twenties.

Just like you can't have a successful career without planning, working, and sacrificing for it, you can't have a successful family without planning, working, and sacrificing for it.

Women in this generation have been cheated with a big, fat lie, and now they're dealing with the consequences.

Yep

Amen to that

Preach sista !
 

The Bidenator

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
How about we stop endoctrinating women with the idea that they can have it all and do it all and we tell them the truth: if you want a family, you have to plan for it and behave accordingly, starting in your early twenties.

Just like you can't have a successful career without planning, working, and sacrificing for it, you can't have a successful family without planning, working, and sacrificing for it.

Women in this generation have been cheated with a big, fat lie, and now they're dealing with the consequences.

Not all women can have it all, but it is possible for those who want to. So many women have careers and have children. The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
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