Does the FPM as a Party Want Peace with Israehell

Peace agreement with Israel?


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Jabal Terbol

Legendary Member
Ya 3azizi, no more soup for you today :happy:
Allah yzidoun wal 3izzatou lillah.. Bass did you first ask your 10+ kids now living in their Swedish idyll if they're interested in assisting Rafidi in ta7rir al Quds, before promising him their added forces? They might tell you to go and tile the sea.:lol:


God willing if it wont be our generation who would have this honor to liberate Al Quds we will make sure to bring up men who will crawl on ice and snow from the far north only to get to their brothers & Imam to fight in the liberation of Al Quds Al Sharif under the banners of Allahu Akbar! ?


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NewLeb

Active Member
Its not a matter of like or dislike..
Even if they were succesful in kicking out jews from palestine ..they will transform it to another shithole before they emigrate to europe to sell kebab..
Muslims are unable to built a society model of their own..
Now they claim that they want to islamize europe.. haha seriously..

No one has to kick anybody out.

As for transforming it into a shithole, that’s actually something that European Christians excel at. Is it not the West that rules the Muslim world? Was it not Europe that divided the Middle East? The West can only excel when Islam is in recession and chaos.

It’s only matter of time until we go back to the good old days when Muslims were in charge and kept the Jews and Christians in line.
 

HalaMadrid

Well-Known Member
Orange Room Supporter
God willing if it wont be our generation who would have this honor to liberate Al Quds we will make sure to bring up men who will crawl on ice and snow from the far north only to get to their brothers & Imam to fight in the liberation of Al Quds Al Sharif under the banners of Allahu Akbar! ?


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It’s only matter of time until we go back to the good old days when Muslims were in charge and kept the Jews and Christians in line.

Sounds like my refuged Palestinian family members don't really fit into your vision of "liberation" replacing one supremacy with another ?

Masks falling everywhere:

 

NewLeb

Active Member
Socialism having to do with this, what, exactly? Other than publicly owning whatever space there is brain?

Your myopic perception of reality is rooted in Marxist thinking. Ergo, you see Muslims gaining power over Palestine as “supremacy,” when it’s really just a normal case of a transference of power.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Of course, but what is important is to have peace under favorable terms not peace just for the sake of it (meaning giving up a lot of things).

We all want what's best for Lebanon. But hypothetically speaking, ask anyone living in Zahle, would they accept having peace with Bashar Al Assad? or would they be very reluctant? I would understand why people from Zahle have this deep hatred and resentment towards Assad because of what happened in 1981. I sympathize with them.

It is important to understand the sufferings of others, not just your own. If you go to the South and talk to people about the Israeli occupation, everyone will recount you horror stories of the occupation. They will also tell you stories about how member of the SLAs used to torture and kill anyone who was trying to fight the occupation.

And Israelis have their own horror stories to recount; yet, neither they or HA have the right to ruin life for others, and future generations, by perpetuating their conflict into the future.

You can work towards peace without fully trusting the other party. Trust is built over time.

But peace is not even on HA's radar. They say with their own mouths that their objective is to remain in a state of war until Israel is destroyed.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I'd really love it, if you can list those conditions. And when/if you do, I will adopt them as my own conditions for peace. Let us hear them out.

Focus, will you?

You are responding to a post saying that my conditions were already stated, by asking me to state my conditions.
 

Indie

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Dont deceive yourself. They were NOT welcome from the start. The Maronites (the ruling class at least) never wanted them in Lebanon because most of them are Muslim, and the Maronites (the ruling class at least) also did not want them in Palestine, since they were pro Zionist and gave a silent nod of approval on what had happened to the Palestinians (in particular the filthy racist Kataebists back then). Most of the little calls for peace agreement with Israehell are not based on us achieving favorable conditions for peace or Israehell meeting our conditions. It is more about meeting Israehell's own conditions and showing them love, and allowing them to screw us, irrespective of the fact that that could be detrimental to our national interests.

Without Maronites, there would be no Lebanon. No one cares about Lebanon more than Maronites. So this little rant is hillarious coming from someone who would not hesitate to dismantle Lebanon's borders to join it with his ummah.
 

Steven Gerrard

Active Member
Orange Room Supporter
And Israelis have their own horror stories to recount; yet, neither they or HA have the right to ruin life for others, and future generations, by perpetuating their conflict into the future.

You can work towards peace without fully trusting the other party. Trust is built over time.

But peace is not even on HA's radar. They say with their own mouths that their objective is to remain in a state of war until Israel is destroyed.

Horrors of occupation? When was Israel ever occupied?
 

Dark Angel

Legendary Member
we should not have any ideological issues with israel. our problems with any foreign nation should strictly be determined from the maps of our national interests and the benefit of our Lebanese people. these are the limits that should govern every conflict between any nations. it follows that our only objective is bring all of these conflicts to a closure when our national objectives are met.

we have an ongoing war because of specific issues, once these issues are resolved there is no need to prolong the wars further.

it is as simple as that. we want an objective end to all conflicts.
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
Without Maronites, there would be no Lebanon. No one cares about Lebanon more than Maronites. So this little rant is hillarious coming from someone who would not hesitate to dismantle Lebanon's borders to join it with his ummah.

Was Lebanon "made in heaven"?
 

Manifesto

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Was Lebanon "made in heaven"?

Muslims rejected the idea of a Greater Lebanon at the time, in favor of merging with Syria.
They feared they would be treated as second-class citizens in a Maronite-majority country.

It's Maronites, and to some extent the Druze, who were most enthusiastic about the idea of a Lebanese state.
 

Ralph N

Well-Known Member
I think this thread is necessary due to the views of many FPMers on this forum, and also, due to the fact that this forum, which at a time used to be officially an FPM platform, plays host to Zionist Hasbara trolls, who often times spread Zionist propaganda and anti Lebanese narratives, and they have been given space under the umbrella of freedom of speech. Therefore, I want FPMers to express themselves freely, especially that they can do so incognito. Does the FPM and do FPMers want peace agreement between Lebanon and Israehell?

If you support peace agreement with Israehell, why or why not?

Is there a consensus on this within the FPM as a party?

What is the official stance of the FPM and where does the MoU with Hezballah come into play?

Do you think Israehell will agree to anything not inclusive of Tawteen or naturalisation of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon?

What of disputed borders, both sea and land and Israehell's drive to steal our oil and gas wealth in the sea by encroaching? How would that be solved?

What of remaining occupied lands like the Shebaa farms, the Kfar Shooba hills, Ghajar and the seven villages?

What of violations of our airspace and land?

What are the guarantees Israehell wont invade us in future?
I think if Hassan Nassrala doesnt care about fighting corruption I dont the hell care about him or his party or his war with Israel...
The jews are older then muslims in this land.. Its theirs, muslims took it by force...
Jews are fighting back to re-take it... get over it..

Muslims created evil conquests and too everything by force....remember this...the time will come things will change..
I am not saying this coz Im christian, the USA the europians made more evils in their conquest in the americas...
Just know, who ever does evil evil will follow him.
 

Frisbeetarian

Legendary Member
I don't have masters. Just because Lebanese Muslims follow the Iranian or Saudi leaderships, don't assume the rest of us are followers as well.

At least 75% of the people who responded to the poll in this thread recognize that a perpetual state of war, with anyone, is detrimental to all involved. We will stand our ground on matters that are essential for the well-being of Lebanon; but beyond that, we are not interested in conflict.

That doesn't make us slaves. It makes us true, free, Lebanese citizens who care about their country, rather than about regional or international players and conflicts.

You delude yourself if you think that you or any other Lebanese is free and that the country is able to make its own decisions. The entire region is captured and in the process of being minced to meat. And instead of trying to confront the colonial powers that are destroying your region you pretend that everything is hunky dory and that making peace with the same oppressors and occupiers will automagically resolve everything. You're either deluded or a coward. In any case don't be surprised if your call falls on deaf ears as we're not habituated to make peace with our oppressors.

And the issue is intrinsically tied to the region as a whole. That's where we also diverge; you want to dismantle Lebanon from its ties to the region and pretend that we can be neutral visavis what is happening to the region and our people (the people of the region) as a whole. That speaks of immense cowardice and only highlights who your masters are and who you politically align yourself with. As our oppressors also want to severe all ties we have to the region as a whole and neutralize our capacity to act. It won't ever happen. These bonds are rooted in common culture, customs and a long history.
 
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Rafidi

Legendary Member
I think if Hassan Nassrala doesnt care about fighting corruption I dont the hell care about him or his party or his war with Israel...
The jews are older then muslims in this land.. Its theirs, muslims took it by force...
Jews are fighting back to re-take it... get over it..

Muslims created evil conquests and too everything by force....remember this...the time will come things will change..
I am not saying this coz Im christian, the USA the europians made more evils in their conquest in the americas...
Just know, who ever does evil evil will follow him.

The Jews are older than the Christians on earth. The earth is theirs. All other religions that came after Judaism or were instituted after Judaism had aliens from outer space embrace those religions. They dont belong to the earth...all Christians and Muslims should leave the earth for outer space, and allow the Jews to have peace on earth.

Your post portrays you as someone bala mokh. Jeyeh baddak ne3mal trade by barter. Hey yalleh na2esna ekher hal zaman.
 
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