Druze-Maronite Conflict During the Lebanese Civil War

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    What was done in Kfarmatta is one shameful stain among others in our exchange of barbarism during the war. But the army never set foot in Kfarmatta. It was the LF all over the place.

    Probably someone fiddled with your memory during your childhood, in which case you're to be considered merely ignorant. Why would you else need to fabricate such a story to feed your omnipresent Aounophobia, when you only need to ask about the huge number of buzzing flies that covered PSP and Palestinian dead mice in Souk el Gharb, after being pushed there in waves after waves by the coward Syrians behind them.
    I know our history really well. It's you who doesn't.

    First of, the Leb Army did set foot in Abey. It was welcomed there by Sheikh Gharib and then the massacres happened.
    You can ask your Arslanian ally from the Gharib family.

    And barely any PSP martyrs fell in Souq El Gharb.

    But on the other hand... Those are your fellow "Syriennes" followers of the Syrian cross from occupied Baabda. Mostly died hiding in sewage systems like cornered mice. Even with US support and "New Jersey" warship.


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    And I of course, apologize to our Druze Maani flag which they use in their Fake "Najwa Karam video clips" Army flag.


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    Saqar18

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    I know our history really well. It's you who doesn't.

    First of, the Leb Army did set foot in Abey. It was welcomed there by Sheikh Gharib and then the massacres happened.
    You can ask your Arslanian ally from the Gharib family.

    And barely any PSP martyrs fell in Souq El Gharb.

    But on the other hand... Those are your fellow "Syriennes" followers of the Syrian cross from occupied Baabda. Mostly died hiding in sewage systems like cornered mice. Even with US support and "New Jersey" warship.


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    And I of course, apologize to our Druze Maani flag which they use in their Fake "Najwa Karam video clips" Army flag.


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    So i dont get it myso. Whos shaikh gharib? And he allowed the Lebanese army to come in to the town, then the massacres happened? Why didnt they just tell Walid jumblatt to protect the town? Or was it all a plan?
     
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    No he's not. They are being harsh on the Beik.
    Eh no. Mr. Fox. They're not being harsh in that regard.

    Joumblatt is a curse on Lebanon as a whole and a thief of water and natural resources. Joumblatt and his supporters piss me more as they affect me directly. The fact that the Chouf road doesn't have lights is an insult to all Druze.

    But I'm giving the Tayyar 15 more years to see THEIR accomplishments in THEIR part of Lebanon. As to me, they come across as sore losers that can't run the Dikaneh of 3ammo 3affif next door.
     
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    So i dont get it myso. Whos shaikh gharib? And he allowed the Lebanese army to come in to the town, then the massacres happened? Why didnt they just tell Walid jumblatt to protect the town? Or was it all a plan?
    The events unfolded as such...

    1- PSP was in the area.

    2- Mrs. Hayat Arslan said "PSP are thugs (zo3ran) and we want the Lebanese Army in this area". Back then, Arslanians had influence in that area. And Talal Arslan's older brother was close to Gemayel. The Gharib family are Yazbaki Arslanians.

    3- PSP left.

    4- Sheikh Gharib did a whole parade in Abey with women holding rice and roses to welcome in the Lebanese Army (back then Amine Gemayel had given power to Syrienne Michel Aoun of Damascus).

    5- The Leb Army came in with LF behind them. The Leb Army watched women getting killed and raped. And even participated in that slaughter.

    6- The Druze citizens panicked. Most ran on foot to Sarahmoul through the wilderness.

    7- It took some time to win the Sha7ar back. Corpses of women and children were lying there for months with Leb Army jeeps going over them.
     
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    Eh no. Mr. Fox. They're not being harsh in that regard.

    Joumblatt is a curse on Lebanon as a whole and a thief of water and natural resources. Joumblatt and his supporters piss me more as they affect me directly. The fact that the Chouf road doesn't have lights is an insult to all Druze.

    But I'm giving the Tayyar 15 more years to see THEIR accomplishments in THEIR part of Lebanon. As to me, they come across as sore losers that can't run the Dikaneh of 3ammo 3affif next door.
    Thanks for sharing on this. I appreciate it.
     
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    The events unfolded as such...

    1- PSP was in the area.

    2- Mrs. Hayat Arslan said "PSP are thugs (zo3ran) and we want the Lebanese Army in this area". Back then, Arslanians had influence in that area. And Talal Arslan's older brother was close to Gemayel. The Gharib family are Yazbaki Arslanians.

    3- PSP left.

    4- Sheikh Gharib did a whole parade in Abey with women holding rice and roses to welcome in the Lebanese Army (back then Amine Gemayel had given power to Syrienne Michel Aoun of Damascus).

    5- The Leb Army came in with LF behind them. The Leb Army watched women getting killed and raped. And even participated in that slaughter.

    6- The Druze citizens panicked. Most ran on foot to Sarahmoul through the wilderness.

    7- It took some time to win the Sha7ar back. Corpses of women and children were lying there for months with Leb Army jeeps going over them.
    What happened to shaikh gharib? Did they kill him?
     
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    I know our history really well. It's you who doesn't.

    First of, the Leb Army did set foot in Abey. It was welcomed there by Sheikh Gharib and then the massacres happened.
    You can ask your Arslanian ally from the Gharib family.

    And barely any PSP martyrs fell in Souq El Gharb.

    But on the other hand... Those are your fellow "Syriennes" followers of the Syrian cross from occupied Baabda. Mostly died hiding in sewage systems like cornered mice. Even with US support and "New Jersey" warship.


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    And I of course, apologize to our Druze Maani flag which they use in their Fake "Najwa Karam video clips" Army flag.


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    Also notice how Aoun was deploying kids in his Army.

    He's our Lebanese version of Haftar. Except more of a coward.
     
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    Lets continue this thread. I want to learn more about jumblatt, and where the leadership is guiding his followers, and if others agree with it.

    Myso, what about tymoor jumblatt? There seems to be support for him

    I beleive he went to school for political science if im not mistaken? He seems like hes more-so in the stage of growing a reputation for himself.

    He can really take the mantle and direct it to more of a positive direction. Maybe earn some respect from other communities, have a fresh start on helping lebanon.

    His sister has finished a project on environmental preservation. They just built a environmentally friendly home or little building somewhere in the chouf. I thought that was nice.
     
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    Lets continue this thread. I want to learn more about jumblatt, and where the leadership is guiding his followers, and if others agree with it.

    Myso, what about tymoor jumblatt? There seems to be support for him

    I beleive he went to school for political science if im not mistaken? He seems like hes more-so in the stage of growing a reputation for himself.

    He can really take the mantle and direct it to more of a positive direction. Maybe earn some respect from other communities, have a fresh start on helping lebanon.

    His sister has finished a project on environmental preservation. They just built a environmentally friendly home or little building somewhere in the chouf. I thought that was nice.
    Teymour Joumblatt doesn't like politics. I doubt he's gonna be the next leader. He's failing to do basic interviews.
    It's probably gonna be Dalia Joumbaltt.
     
    Orangina

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    Lets continue this thread. I want to learn more about jumblatt, and where the leadership is guiding his followers, and if others agree with it.

    Myso, what about tymoor jumblatt? There seems to be support for him

    I beleive he went to school for political science if im not mistaken? He seems like hes more-so in the stage of growing a reputation for himself.

    He can really take the mantle and direct it to more of a positive direction. Maybe earn some respect from other communities, have a fresh start on helping lebanon.

    His sister has finished a project on environmental preservation. They just built a environmentally friendly home or little building somewhere in the chouf. I thought that was nice.
    There is always 2 sides (or more) for the same story... and what if the story was a war!.. the winners will tell u a story totally different than the one of the defeated ones

    Druze and maronite christians have endured an eternal war for a very long time and this war is intimately linked to the distribution of powers and forces.

    The shouf region.. the jabal specifically.. has a very controversial and confusing history... If you ask a christian from jabal to tell u the history of this area you will find him telling u events in a different way than a druze might do..

    take the story of the assassination of kamal jumblat for instance and the massacre that happened after

    where does your family come from?.. from which village in lebanon?.. if i may ask
     
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    The shouf region.. the jabal specifically.. has a very controversial and confusing history... If you ask a christian from jabal to tell u the history of this area you will find him telling u events in a different way than a druze might do..

    take the story of the assassination of kamal jumblat for instance and the massacre that happened after

    where does your family come from?.. from which village in lebanon?.. if i may ask
    1. Yeah i can see truth to what you're saying. It only makes sense.
    2. what massacre are you talking about? After kamal jumblatt died, there was a massacre? Was it because of his death or was it just coincidentally after?
    3. Rashaya district
     
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    Druze and maronite christians have endured an eternal war for a very long time and this war is intimately linked to the distribution of powers and forces.
    I hear in some towns, they are best friends. Other towns, dont interact much.
    But the beef and the wounds were so deep
    I mean damn, its bad man.

    I read, during the times of the mamluks. The Druze and Maronite horse archers would harrass the mamluks for them to leave the area. (Possibly to when their power was dwindling)

    I never hear fights where they were together fighting a foreign power. Its always them against eachother.
     
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    1. Yeah i can see truth to what you're saying. It only makes sense.
    2. what massacre are you talking about? After kamal jumblatt died, there was a massacre? Was it because of his death or was it just coincidentally after?
    3. Rashaya district
    Kamal jumblat was a lebanese leftist who was shot dead by a gunmen in the 16th of march 1977. Jumblat was aged 59. He was killed with his driver and bodyguard.

    Jumblatt was a charismatic and enigmatic man who emerged during the civil war as the leader of the Leftist-Muslim-Palestinian alliance. He actually had an ambition to become the President of the Lebanese republic and he was one of those who asked for a secular Lebanon.

    Some reports say that three gunmen in an Iraqi registered Pontiac sports car opened fire hitting jumblatt in the chest and head.

    Armed druzes villagers in the shouf attacked neighboring christian villages to avenge the assassination. 177 Christian civilians (including women, elderly, and children) were killed in several villages in the Shouf, but also in some areas in West Beirut that were under the control of Joint Forces militias, where Christian civilians were kidnapped and executed. bodies were mutilated and left on the roads to be seen, and women were raped.
    killings took place in Mazraat al-Shuf (52); Maasser al-Shuf (21); al-Barouk (28); Botmeh (9), Kfarnabrakh (6), Fraydis (6), as well as in Baadaran, Shurit, and Ain-Zhalta. Many victims were mutilated and women sexually abused.

    Christian massacres in Chouf and in West Beirut
     
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    I hear in some towns, they are best friends. Other towns, dont interact much.
    But the beef and the wounds were so deep
    I mean damn, its bad man.

    I read, during the times of the mamluks. The Druze and Maronite horse archers would harrass the mamluks for them to leave the area. (Possibly to when their power was dwindling)

    I never hear fights where they were together fighting a foreign power. Its always them against eachother.
    Yes this is true...in most villages the Christians and the Druze coexist in a peaceful way...but in fact they always have the memories of the massacres done by both sides in their deep unconsciousness. I can specify here old people who rly lived those fights...

    i just want to add this info

    Between the summer of 1975 and 1977, as a result of successive attacks that terrorized the population, around 260,000 people (more than 60 percent of the region’s Christians) left the shouf region
     
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    Kamal jumblat was a lebanese leftist who was shot dead by a gunmen in the 16th of march 1977. Jumblat was aged 59. He was killed with his driver and bodyguard.

    Jumblatt was a charismatic and enigmatic man who emerged during the civil war as the leader of the Leftist-Muslim-Palestinian alliance. He actually had an ambition to become the President of the Lebanese republic and he was one of those who asked for a secular Lebanon.

    Some reports say that three gunmen in an Iraqi registered Pontiac sports car opened fire hitting jumblatt in the chest and head.

    Armed druzes villagers in the shouf attacked neighboring christian villages to avenge the assassination. 177 Christian civilians (including women, elderly, and children) were killed in several villages in the Shouf, but also in some areas in West Beirut that were under the control of Joint Forces militias, where Christian civilians were kidnapped and executed. bodies were mutilated and left on the roads to be seen, and women were raped.
    killings took place in Mazraat al-Shuf (52); Maasser al-Shuf (21); al-Barouk (28); Botmeh (9), Kfarnabrakh (6), Fraydis (6), as well as in Baadaran, Shurit, and Ain-Zhalta. Many victims were mutilated and women sexually abused.

    Christian massacres in Chouf and in West Beirut
    Im sorry. Are you from any of the areas that these massacres took place? Were any of your family affected by what happened?
    Both sides suffered. Its horrible, its like "you did this to me i do this to you". Thank god the war is over. Lebanon now has a real threat, this bad debt and financial situation.
     
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    Haha i love the animal names haha(rawr)

    Yeah you did push back waves. I read this on wikipedia. They resisted wave after wave. But its ok. Although they fought to the death, they got to taste deaths sweetness. From those efforts, their team won the war.
    Its hard to be escorted off the battlefield.

    Actually a good victory i give is to bashir gemayel in defending zahle. Thats an admirable battle. Probably tough as hell but he pulled through a siege.
    How cute you loved the animal names. :wacky: You can have more if you wish, because every time I think of Jumblat and PSP, the lowest species in Kalila wa Dumna comes to mind. :p
     
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    How cute you loved the animal names. :wacky: You can have more if you wish, because every time I think of Jumblat and PSP, the lowest species in Kalila wa Dumna comes to mind. :p
    Haha, nice to meet you too. Ill be the kalila and you can be the dumna. What ever that is
     
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