Parliamentary elections 2018 Elections: Chouf-Aley district

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Ralph N

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Joumblat can lose all his MPs and still be the leader of the Druze like his family has been for couple centuries. This is just like abolishing sectarianism when the foundation to support this change is not there, it won't work. So if Joumblat end up sidelined from the parliament, this mean the Druze will be sidelined and their faith in the state/system will be shaken. Not sure if conspiracy or short sightedness... either way it is recommended change the "7arb el ilgha2" mentality... all am reading on forum lately is how to crush X and how to make Y lose.
Druze should change their Harb Ilgha2 mentality..they started it... Not us.. they crushed us still until now... Why arent Christians returned? Who tried to silent the christian vote?... Who wanted weak Christian president? Who wanted to use us ?!!!!
 
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  • Tayyar Keserwen

    Tayyar Keserwen

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    Old member of the forum. Coming back to check on election updates.

    First time voter, along with a family block of 30 members in Chouf.

    Regardless of political alliances, the main objective is to protect and support the 3ahed. Everyone else would have done the same or worst to get rid of the 3ahed. For those who are disgruntled, you're not the only ones, yet this does not justify voting for slogan-peddlers (and indirectly benefiting anti-3ahed lists) now that PMA is president.

    That being said, 30 new votes (the family has never voted) will go towards Mario Aoun, no questions asked.
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    Old member of the forum. Coming back to check on election updates.

    First time voter, along with a family block of 30 members in Chouf.

    Regardless of political alliances, the main objective is to protect and support the 3ahed. Everyone else would have done the same or worst to get rid of the 3ahed. For those who are disgruntled, you're not the only ones, yet this does not justify voting for slogan-peddlers (and indirectly benefiting anti-3ahed lists) now that PMA is president.

    That being said, 30 new votes (the family has never voted) will go towards Mario Aoun, no questions asked.
    same here. mario aoun will be get my preferential vote as well as that of my extended family.
     
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    Death To Google

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    Druze should change their Harb Ilgha2 mentality..they started it... Not us.. they crushed us still until now... Why arent Christians returned? Who tried to silent the christian vote?... Who wanted weak Christian president? Who wanted to use us ?!!!!
    Your beef with Druze goes back to Ottoman times and it lead to establishing confessionalism as far back as then, which in retrospect only exacerbated the problem. Here and now very few care about this beef or who started it. The only thing preventing Christians return (where they have not returned already) is themselves. Everyone is vying for power and share of the pie in this this zero sum system and all suffer the consequences. Don't make this an anti Christian thing you know well that this is not exclusive to Christians... unless you adopt the 'either with us or against us' mentality.
     
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    Ralph N

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    Your beef with Druze goes back to Ottoman times and it lead to establishing confessionalism as far back as then, which in retrospect only exacerbated the problem. Here and now very few care about this beef or who started it. The only thing preventing Christians return (where they have not returned already) is themselves. Everyone is vying for power and share of the pie in this this zero sum system and all suffer the consequences. Don't make this an anti Christian thing you know well that this is not exclusive to Christians... unless you adopt the 'either with us or against us' mentality.
    Dont blame the Christians,,.. we are barely rising to stand up... and jumbi berri and co wants to step on us to keep us down.. Fasharo..
     
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    Death To Google

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    Dont blame the Christians,,.. we are barely rising to stand up... and jumbi berri and co wants to step on us to keep us down.. Fasharo..
    Carry on with the Christians vs the world sectarian crusade... but leave out Hariri faction, no need to mention now for tactical alliance reasons. Perhaps next elections you will tell us how they oppressed Christians if the political wheel turns yet again.
     
    NAFAR

    NAFAR

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    Your beef with Druze goes back to Ottoman times and it lead to establishing confessionalism as far back as then, which in retrospect only exacerbated the problem. Here and now very few care about this beef or who started it. The only thing preventing Christians return (where they have not returned already) is themselves. Everyone is vying for power and share of the pie in this this zero sum system and all suffer the consequences. Don't make this an anti Christian thing you know well that this is not exclusive to Christians... unless you adopt the 'either with us or against us' mentality.
    I agree with most of you are saying but it is Jubmlat who is changing this democratic battle into a sectarian war and not FPM.
    Did you hear his speeches in Druze villages and Abu fa3our.
    Jumblat has his list and FPM as well; why can't he accept it as it is and try to succeed without this hateful disgusting sectarian speeches.
     
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    Death To Google

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    I agree with most of you are saying but it is Jubmlat who is changing this democratic battle into a sectarian war and not FPM.
    Did you hear his speeches in Druze villages and Abu fa3our.
    Jumblat has his list and FPM as well; why can't he accept it as it is and try to succeed without this hateful disgusting sectarian speeches.
    Same reason FM did it vs Shiites in 2005 onward and FPM did it vs Sunnis in 2006-2015. When a sectarian leader or party back to the wall they play the sectarian card to gain support. Inevitable product of sectarian social fabric and political system. You can't fight corruption in Lebanon without fighting sectarianism because they feed on each other, Joumblat and Berri might be the best examples of that.
     
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    lebanese1

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    I listened to Ghassan Atallah for the 1st time today on OTV.

    He is one of the best speakers in Tayyar. He is very classy, coherent and articulates his ideas very well.

    I strongly wish that he wins!
     
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    freelebanonn

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    As per Leb rebel this speech is directed toward ghada eid and she will kick jumblat ass on sunday with her extraordinary electricity plan. No worries. El mohem Jubran is baaadddd .
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    on the other side of that ugly speech, this is what we have, and every word she is saying is true.

    my vote goes for tante em-michel! that's without even bringing up the support for the president.
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    The enemy is crystal clear. Choose wisely on May 6th. Vote FPM and strengthen PMA's hand against the mafiosos that have been choking Lebanon for decades.
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    The enemy is crystal clear. Choose wisely on May 6th. Vote FPM and strengthen PMA's hand against the mafiosos that have been choking Lebanon for decades.
    Unfortunately they bank on opportunist Christians to fight Baabda and the Christian presence in the state. They don't want free men, they only want dhimmis.

    Al7arb men alkharej welkhawf men dakhel. Another Oct. 13 (2). Back than, the state was defeated by force, today, it is in the hand of the people
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    توجه رئيس اللقاء الديمقراطي النائب وليد جنبلاط الى "حليف الامس واليوم الرئيس سعد الحريري" بالقول، "ألا يدرك اهمية وموقع رئاسة الوزارة الذي تحصن بالدم بعد حروب الجبل وصولا الى اتفاق الطائف؟ ".

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    برسم المسيحيين ونظرة جنبلاط لإلهن وهو يتفاخر بإسقاط رئاسة الجمهورية ودور المسيحيين

    وهنيئاً للائحة المصالحة والذّل
     
    TayyarBeino

    TayyarBeino

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    توجه رئيس اللقاء الديمقراطي النائب وليد جنبلاط الى "حليف الامس واليوم الرئيس سعد الحريري" بالقول، "ألا يدرك اهمية وموقع رئاسة الوزارة الذي تحصن بالدم بعد حروب الجبل وصولا الى اتفاق الطائف؟ ".

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    برسم المسيحيين ونظرة جنبلاط لإلهن وهو يتفاخر بإسقاط رئاسة الجمهورية ودور المسيحيين

    وهنيئاً للائحة المصالحة والذّل
    صدق إلي قال: مين غيرك هز المسمار يا قائد عون الجبار

    بري و جنبلاط عم بوجهو نداءات تعكس مدى خوفن
    looks like tymoor is not doing good, so jumbi himsef steppped in and started his secretarian stuff. His block wil be reduced minimum 3-4, I cant wait...

    16:58 جنبلاط: وكأن التاريخ يعيد نفسه ولو بوجوه مختلفة لا بد للائحة المصالحة والشرفاء في الوطن من ان يخلصونا من كذبة الاصلاح والتغيير
     
    gramsci

    gramsci

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    The enemy is crystal clear. Choose wisely on May 6th. Vote FPM and strengthen PMA's hand against the mafiosos that have been choking Lebanon for decades.
    Same shit.divided..orphans of ghazi kanaan. Hope that they loose both
     
    Abotareq93

    Abotareq93

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    غسان عطالله :

    - يوم الأحد سيكون عرس وطني للديموقراطية في الشوف بعد غياب أكثر من ٤٠ عام
    - مشكلة العودة بالشوف ليست مشكلة منزل وأرض، بل هي مشكلة حضور ومرجعية وحيثية وحرية تعبير وتفاعل
     
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