Parliamentary elections 2018 Elections: Chouf-Aley district

Dark Angel

Dark Angel

Legendary Member
أوقفت مديرية المخابرات في الجيش اللبناني رواد نور الدين الذي ينتمي الى الحزب الإشتراكي على خلفية تهديده من يحمل علم التيار الوطني الحر بالقتل.
i am expecting there will more attempts to intimidate the voters, do not be intimidated. vote in large numbers and turn a page on jumblat's hegemony over the chouf area. the druze are our brothers and a vote against jumblat is not a vote against the druze.
 
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    lebanese1

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    if there was any directions for the chouf they will be issued before the beginning of the vote; if that happens i will post them on the forum, if no directions are issued by then, vote mario.
    as per Bassil, Mario is fine. So if no instructions are given, he better sticks with Atallah
     
    Mockinggbird

    Mockinggbird

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    as per Bassil, Mario is fine. So if no instructions are given, he better sticks with Atallah
    No Mario is not fine and will need every vote
    All Christians combined have around 4 to 4.5 hassel
    If we consider fpm gets 50%
    Than mario needs every single vote to pass
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    as per Bassil, Mario is fine. So if no instructions are given, he better sticks with Atallah
    no man, mario still needs plenty of support, so does ghassan, but mario has a better chance to break through on a Maronite seat, because nehme tohme (atallah's competitor on the Catholic seat) will be covered with a tremendous amounts of votes under jumblat's personal directive, while naji bustani (in particular) and ghattas khouri are the weakest link, more vulnerable and can be easier to overcome. but let's wait for the directives. if they do not come my vote goes to mario.
     
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    lebanese1

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    no man, mario still needs plenty of support, so does ghassan, but mario has a better chance to break through on a Maronite seat, because nehme tohme (atallah's competitor on the Catholic seat) will be covered with a tremendous amounts of votes under jumblat's personal directive, while naji bustani (in particular) and ghattas khouri are the weakest link, more vulnerable and can be easier to overcome. but let's wait for the directives. if they do not come my vote goes to mario.
    I think FM will give sunni votes to Ghattas.
     
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    lebanese1

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    no man, mario still needs plenty of support, so does ghassan, but mario has a better chance to break through on a Maronite seat, because nehme tohme (atallah's competitor on the Catholic seat) will be covered with a tremendous amounts of votes under jumblat's personal directive, while naji bustani (in particular) and ghattas khouri are the weakest link, more vulnerable and can be easier to overcome. but let's wait for the directives. if they do not come my vote goes to mario.
    I dont think PSP can give tohmeh more than 2000-3000 druze votes. I really think atallah should be supported.
     
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    lebanese1

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    72 000 Christians in Chouf. 50% Participation means 36 000 voters. If FPM has 40% of them, hol 14 000. If they are split 40/60 between Mario and Ghassan, hol 6000 vs 8000. It is super hard for Tohmeh to beat Ghassan and Mario should be safe.
     
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    freelebanonn

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    72 000 Christians in Chouf. 50% Participation means 36 000 voters. If FPM has 40% of them, hol 14 000. If they are split 40/60 between Mario and Ghassan, hol 6000 vs 8000. It is super hard for Tohmeh to beat Ghassan and Mario should be safe.
    If you dont get the needed hawasil it wont matter anymore. FPM list must reach the 4th hassel . Haram!
     
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    lebanese1

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    If you dont get the needed hawasil it wont matter anymore. FPM list must reach the 4th hassel . Haram!
    I didn't get your point sorry. Can you clarify?

    If we get 4 7awasel and all votes go to Mario, then the SSNP or ali hajj will take the 4th seat. So it is really important to give Atallah plenty of votes to overcome Tohmeh. After that neither SSNP OR HAJJ will get more than 6000 votes, so Mario will be the guaranteed 2nd winner.
     
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    freelebanonn

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    I didn't get your point sorry. Can you clarify?

    If we get 4 7awasel and all votes go to Mario, then the SSNP or ali hajj will take the 4th seat. So it is really important to give Atallah plenty of votes to overcome Tohmeh. After that neither SSNP OR HAJJ will get more than 6000 votes, so Mario will be the guaranteed 2nd winner.
    I know that. I meant that even if FPM split the tafdilis in a smart way it wont matter if we failed to reach the 4th hassel. Jumblat is working so hard on ensuring we dont get it.
    I am not raising my hopes high in this district. Tough one for FPM with many barabases against you and a sectarian opponent who is preventing you by forces and threats to make a decent campaign for yourself. Your followers most of them live far away . etc.
     
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    lebanese1

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    I know that. I meant that even if FPM split the tafdilis in a smart way it wont matter if we failed to reach the 4th hassel. Jumblat is working so hard on ensuring we dont get it.
    I am not raising my hopes high in this district. Tough one for FPM with many barabases against you and a sectarian opponent who is preventing you by forces and threats to make a decent campaign for yourself. Your followers most of them live far away . etc.
    the presence of 2-3 lists that may not reach the treshold could help hopefully...
     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    72 000 Christians in Chouf. 50% Participation means 36 000 voters. If FPM has 40% of them, hol 14 000. If they are split 40/60 between Mario and Ghassan, hol 6000 vs 8000. It is super hard for Tohmeh to beat Ghassan and Mario should be safe.
    the hassel is expected to be between 12000 and 14000 in the district, meaning that FPM will be needing to secure the higher fraction after the hassel, and is related to the results in alley as well.

    it is safer to strike at the weakest links, which is one of the 3 maronite seats, because if ghassan atallah does not manage to win, and after having obtained most the preferential votes from FPM, the second on the list will not be an FPMer.

    it depends what FPM is aiming for, if they want nehme tohme's head, it will be a riskier battle, is it worth it though? maybe. i personally would rather go for what guarantees the most number of seats for the card holders.
     
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    lebanese1

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    the hassel is expected to be between 12000 and 14000 in the district, meaning that FPM will be needing to secure the higher fraction after the hassel, and is related to the results in alley as well.

    it is safer to strike at the weakest links, which is one of the 3 maronite seats, because if ghassan atallah does not manage to win, and after having obtained most the preferential votes from FPM, the second on the list will not be an FPMer.

    it depends what FPM is aiming for, if they want nehme tohme's head, it will be a riskier battle, is it worth it though? maybe. i personally would rather go for what guarantees the most number of seats for the card holders.
    read my posts above (recopied below). with just 6000 votes, mario should be very safe. we really want both ghassan and mario

    72 000 Christians in Chouf. 50% Participation means 36 000 voters. If FPM has 40% of them, hol 14 000. If they are split 40/60 between Mario and Ghassan, hol 6000 vs 8000. It is super hard for Tohmeh to beat Ghassan and Mario should be safe.

    If we get 4 7awasel and all votes go to Mario, then the SSNP or ali hajj will take the 4th seat. So it is really important to give Atallah plenty of votes to overcome Tohmeh. After that neither SSNP OR HAJJ will get more than 6000 votes, so Mario will be the guaranteed 2nd winner.
     
    gramsci

    gramsci

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    as communist it is our interest that walid junblat line get broken .
    PSP were always LCP allies in lebanon , during Kamal junblat original line . this alliance was broken by syrian during the 80's and the wissaye time .
    fot the future prospective is the recomposition of the National movement , for a leftist-socialist and secular lebanon .alongside all leftist socialist movements in lebanon-
    for this phase our interest that the Duo Berri _ junblat ( ghazi kanaan axis ) get broken.
    so our political line converge with FPM .. even if we are not allied,

    and thats why i said that druze are the most secular in lebanon , and i keep on my thesis , they will be when they get rid of the corrupt walid and back to kamal junblat original line .
     
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    gramsci

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    as communist it is our interest that walid junblat line get broken .
    PSP were always LCP allies in lebanon , during Kamal junblat original line . this alliance was broken by syrian during the 80's and the wissaye time .
    fot the future prospective is the recomposition of the National movement , for a leftist-socialist and secular lebanon .alongside all leftist socialist movements in lebanon-
    for this phase our interest that the Duo Berri _ junblat ( ghazi kanaan axis ) get broken.
    so our political line converge with FPM .. even if we are not allied,

    and thats why i said that druze are the most secular in lebanon , and i keep on my thesis , they will be when they get rid of the corrupt walid and back to kamal junblat original line .
    That how we politically will revenge for Kamal junblat and every communist martyr . and not how walid jjunblat thugs crimes in mount lebanon , (they must held accountable for that in any future )where most persons killed just because they were christian , when lot of them in fact were comunist sympathizers ..
    the list is long ,, but the battle is political .
     
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    LVV

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    read my posts above (recopied below). with just 6000 votes, mario should be very safe. we really want both ghassan and mario

    72 000 Christians in Chouf. 50% Participation means 36 000 voters. If FPM has 40% of them, hol 14 000. If they are split 40/60 between Mario and Ghassan, hol 6000 vs 8000. It is super hard for Tohmeh to beat Ghassan and Mario should be safe.

    If we get 4 7awasel and all votes go to Mario, then the SSNP or ali hajj will take the 4th seat. So it is really important to give Atallah plenty of votes to overcome Tohmeh. After that neither SSNP OR HAJJ will get more than 6000 votes, so Mario will be the guaranteed 2nd winner.
    Completely bullshit
    Mario is the absolute priority
    Hajj or SSNP have not 6000 or even 4000 in chouf
    Completely Habel
    Crap Crap
     
    Mockinggbird

    Mockinggbird

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    Completely bullshit
    Mario is the absolute priority
    Hajj or SSNP have not 6000 or even 4000 in chouf
    Completely Habel
    Crap Crap
    100%
    All fpmers in chouf should vote Mario
    Attalah is fighting for a seat that is unique in this district
    So in any case if tohme is last from psp list and does not get a hassel
    It will go to Attalah and he wins
    Fpm should not risk this seat is very symbolic
    One seat in chouf is more than enough
    It would be a huge symbolic victory
    And Mario Aoun is in the best position to make it
    First he is the only one from coastal chouf
    Second he is only facing one strong candidate (Edwein) for three available seats
    Jumbi is the biggest force in this district and he is not fighting for any Maronite seat !
    What’s the point of fighting a seat that is targeted by jumblatt when the Maronite can be easier ???!
    Personally I will vote Mario Aoun me and all my family
    I advise you do the same
     
    Mockinggbird

    Mockinggbird

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    read my posts above (recopied below). with just 6000 votes, mario should be very safe. we really want both ghassan and mario

    72 000 Christians in Chouf. 50% Participation means 36 000 voters. If FPM has 40% of them, hol 14 000. If they are split 40/60 between Mario and Ghassan, hol 6000 vs 8000. It is super hard for Tohmeh to beat Ghassan and Mario should be safe.

    If we get 4 7awasel and all votes go to Mario, then the SSNP or ali hajj will take the 4th seat. So it is really important to give Atallah plenty of votes to overcome Tohmeh. After that neither SSNP OR HAJJ will get more than 6000 votes, so Mario will be the guaranteed 2nd winner.
    Who told you fpm have 4 hawassel??
    Very very risky game based on nothing but nonsense
    All votes should go to Mario
    Bala habal
    Fpm might end up with nothing at all!!
    Lf strategy if placing one candidate is much more effective
    This is turning into real bs
    Hope there is something I don’t know
    But it looks really unprofessional
     
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    LVV

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    100%
    All fpmers in chouf should vote Mario
    Attalah is fighting for a seat that is unique in this district
    So in any case if tohme is last from psp list and does not get a hassel
    It will go to Attalah and he wins
    Fpm should not risk this seat is very symbolic
    One seat in chouf is more than enough
    It would be a huge symbolic victory
    And Mario Aoun is in the best position to make it
    First he is the only one from coastal chouf
    Second he is only facing one strong candidate (Edwein) for three available seats
    Jumbi is the biggest force in this district and he is not fighting for any Maronite seat !
    What’s the point of fighting a seat that is targeted by jumblatt when the Maronite can be easier ???!
    Personally I will vote Mario Aoun me and all my family
    I advise you do the same
    I vote in alley Cesar Abu Khalil
    If I was in Shouf Mario
    But a lot of my friends and family voting Mario
    Tommorow we celebrate victory hopefully
    For the first time we have deputies in Shouf Alley
     
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