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Elections Elections: Keserwan-Jbeil district

eLad

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#1
Number of MPs: 8
7 Maronites
1 Shia

Voters: 175,328

Christians: 152,702
Shias: 18,246
Sunnis: 3,327
Druze : 40
Alawis: 16
Other: 997
 
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  • Placebo

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    #2
    How does the Proportional system work when a seat is dedicated only for 1 Candidate? So in that case the Shiaa seat is based on the majoritarian system.
     
    #3
    How does the Proportional system work when a seat is dedicated only for 1 Candidate? So in that case the Shiaa seat is based on the majoritarian system.
    No its a full proportional law. We have 8 seats here lets say one list take 60% of the votes which equal 5 seats and the second with 40% 3 seats.
    Here comes the preferentional votes to play. The first 5 in the first list will be picked, disregarding the sects. If the shia candidate in among the first 5 , he will be part of the winners from the first, if no the shia from the second is the winner even if the shia from the first got more preferred votes than the shia from the second list. Beauty of proportional system.
     

    Placebo

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    #4
    No its a full proportional law. We have 8 seats here lets say one list take 60% of the votes which equal 5 seats and the second with 40% 3 seats.
    Here comes the preferentional votes to play. The first 5 in the first list will be picked, disregarding the sects. If the shia candidate in among the first 5 , he will be part of the winners from the first, if no the shia from the second is the winner even if the shia from the first got more preferred votes than the shia from the second list. Beauty of proportional system.
    Does this apply in multiple districts zones? For Jbeil-Keserwan, are we talking about the first 5 in keserwan in that case, or the first 2 in Jbeil ?
     
    #5
    Does this apply in multiple districts zones? For Jbeil-Keserwan, are we talking about the first 5 in keserwan in that case, or the first 2 in Jbeil ?
    The example i gave apply to one district. For multiple district they need to abide to number of seats allocated to each caza as well. It is complicated as hell
     
    #6
    The example i gave apply to one district. For multiple district they need to abide to number of seats allocated to each caza as well. It is complicated as hell
    No because each kaza will be considered as a sect
    Same complication for the metn district

    4 sects in metn

    While you have 4 Kaza in north
     
    #7
    Does this apply in multiple districts zones? For Jbeil-Keserwan, are we talking about the first 5 in keserwan in that case, or the first 2 in Jbeil ?
    There is an example live on lbc website

    They took metn as example

    You apply the same thing on kesserwen jbeil

    5 keserwen
    2 jbeil Maronite
    1 jbeil Shia

    And so on
     
    #10
    Thanks, it's clearer for Metn, but it's pretty straightforward there.

    Also, for this system to work, where candidates of the same list have different results, it means that toshtib is allowed? I read elsewhere on the forum that it's not ?
    No you vote a list and you tick your preferred candidate on that list - just one

    With that preferred vote they can rank the candidates on each list at the end of the counting
     

    sadek2010

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    #11
    Thanks, it's clearer for Metn, but it's pretty straightforward there.

    Also, for this system to work, where candidates of the same list have different results, it means that toshtib is allowed? I read elsewhere on the forum that it's not ?
    The shii in jbeil , win directly with the most voted list , there s only two maronite seats . On goes to one list the second to the other that passes the passing proportional rate . ( it s the problem now 10,15, or 20 per list)
    Now which candidate will be chosen
    Now the preferential vote make the candidate who worked most with his base be the 1st and get most preferable votes in his list
     

    lebanese1

    Legendary Member
    #12
    The shii in jbeil , win directly with the most voted list , there s only two maronite seats . On goes to one list the second to the other that passes the passing proportional rate . ( it s the problem now 10,15, or 20 per list)
    Now which candidate will be chosen
    Now the preferential vote make the candidate who worked most with his base be the 1st and get most preferable votes in his list
    What if FPM decide to run with one maronite candidate only again to avoid the clash between its partisans?
     

    sadek2010

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    #13
    The shii in jbeil , win directly with the most voted list , there s only two maronite seats . On goes to one list the second to the other that passes the passing proportional rate . ( it s the problem now 10,15, or 20 per list)
    Now which candidate will be chosen
    Now the preferential vote make the candidate who worked most with his base be the 1st and get most preferable votes in his list
    What if FPM decide to run with one maronite candidate only again to avoid the clash between its partisans?
    It ll be simon and walid khoury , FPM + ally
    W batikh yikaser ba3ed
     

    lebanese1

    Legendary Member
    #14
    It ll be simon and walid khoury , FPM + ally
    W batikh yikaser ba3ed
    who said that? What if FPM leadership wisely decides to avoid "the battaikh ykassir ba3do" thing and run with only the official party candidate who won the internal elections?

    Internal bickering within the party should be totally forbidden in general elections!!!
     

    sadek2010

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    #15
    It ll be simon and walid khoury , FPM + ally
    W batikh yikaser ba3ed
    who said that? What if FPM leadership wisely decides to avoid "the battaikh ykassir ba3do" thing and run with only the official party candidate who won the internal elections?

    Internal bickering within the party should be totally forbidden in general elections!!!
    It needs calculations , but dont forget that it s connected jbeil and keserwen . U need a higher turnout u may lose all the se7il l jbeili and specially amchit as big city and all the room part of jbeil
     

    The Jade

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    #17
    who said that? What if FPM leadership wisely decides to avoid "the battaikh ykassir ba3do" thing and run with only the official party candidate who won the internal elections?

    Internal bickering within the party should be totally forbidden in general elections!!!
    FPM and wise do not go in the same sentence.
    Law badda tchatté, ghayyamit