Parliamentary elections 2018 Elections: Rashaya-West Bekaa district

[Mockinggbird]

Geagea is a traitor regardless of the Speaker's election

Geagea voted for PMA
Franjieh and Berri didn't
so guess who is the traitor ?
these are facts not opinions

 

[Abotareq93]

Geagea voted for PMA
Franjieh and Berri didn't
so guess who is the traitor ?
these are facts not opinions

Geagea voted for PMA because he had no other choice mish akhlak minno; he knew that PMA will be elected either he likes it or not so rekeb elmawjeh. Saying that Geagea is a traitor doesn't mean that Berri and Frangieh aren't; killo anyak min ba3do.

 

[Abotareq93]

Geagea is the one who you allied with so we can have GMA PMA. So spare us your nonsense. Mch halla2 la2ano they didnt ally together he is a traitor. Again, whoever votes for Berri is a traitor.

You can express your opinion without describing others' opinions as nonsense; OK ya mama?

 

[Mockinggbird]

Geagea voted for PMA because he had no other choice mish akhlak minno; he knew that PMA will be elected either he likes it or not so rekeb elmawjeh. Saying that Geagea is a traitor doesn't mean that Berri and Frangieh aren't; killo anyak min ba3do.

I disagree
In politics there is nothing called rekib el mawjeh
kello byerkab el mawjeh aw byeghra2 bel mawjeh
this is politics

 

[Abotareq93]

I disagree
In politics there is nothing called rekib el mawjeh
kello byerkab el mawjeh aw byeghra2 bel mawjeh
this is politics

And he had to choose between PMA and Frangieh so he went for the lesser evil for him. Anyway, PMA was going to become President with or without the 8 votes of LF

 

[Abotareq93]

هيئة البقاع الغربي في التيار رداً على أبو فاعور: ادعاءاتك لن تثنينا عن متابعة المسيرة

صدر عن هيئة البقاع الغربي في التيار الوطني الحر البيان الآتي:
لا يترك المرشح الاشتراكي وائل ابو فاعور مناسبة، علنية كانت او خاصة وآخرها كان بالامس في بلدة المنصورة البقاعية، الا ويشن فيها حملات تجنٍّ وتحريض على العهد وعلى التيار الوطني الحر خاصة بشخص رئيسه الوزير جبران باسيل، ظناً منه انها الوسيلة الاقصر لوصوله الى الندوة البرلمانية.
نحن ابناء التيار الوطني الحر في البقاع الغربي لن نرد الاساءة بالاساءة والاهانة بمثلها، انما نعاهد اهلنا واخواننا في المنطقة ان ادعاءات ابو فاعور وسواه لن تثنينا عن متابعة المسيرة شهادة للحق ودعماً للعهد وتثبيتاً للعيش الواحد ومزيداً من الانجازات في سبيل تطوير ورقي منطقتنا.

 

[Mockinggbird]

And he had to choose between PMA and Frangieh so he went for the lesser evil for him. Anyway, PMA was going to become President with or without the 8 votes of LF

If this is the case then who forced GMA to go to Meerab and be part of the show....
whether you like the guy or not you should put aside the pre-90 history and start thinking strategically
christians community have economic / cultural / social / demographic challenges that are way more important that hezb weapons
LF and FPM should and I hope will come together again after the elections
Christians are fed up from being manipulated for sunni and chi3a benefits
Hope the christian community is aware that only khayyak will help you and support you
FPM and LF have sizable bases in contrast to the "mkhatir" that pro-syrians and pro-saudi are trying to impose (harb, skaff, farrouda, etc...)

 

[Abotareq93]

If this is the case then who forced GMA to go to Meerab and be part of the show....
whether you like the guy or not you should put aside the pre-90 history and start thinking strategically
christians community have economic / cultural / social / demographic challenges that are way more important that hezb weapons
LF and FPM should and I hope will come together again after the elections
Christians are fed up from being manipulated for sunni and chi3a benefits
Hope the christian community is aware that only khayyak will help you and support you
FPM and LF have sizable bases in contrast to the "mkhatir" that pro-syrians and pro-saudi are trying to impose (harb, skaff, farrouda, etc...)

Pre 90? ya zalameh LF opposed all FPM plans in the government; Hasbani and Abou Assi left their ministries and became experts in electricity just to prevent FPM from any achievement. Fi anjas min heik? They sided with Berri and Joumblat in this matter; they were the ones who asked to send the plan to the tenders' department and they're still asking for it knowing that this is an unnecessary step and it's used just to put obstacles in FPM way. This is just to mention one and the most important example

 

[new hope]

Geagea is the one who you allied with so we can have GMA PMA. So spare us your nonsense. Mch halla2 la2ano they didnt ally together he is a traitor. Again, whoever votes for Berri is a traitor.

Lol the last time lf and kataeb didn’t vote berri!
While Tayyar le 7or voted for berri as speaker

7ezb el nafe2 wel kezeb

 

[new hope]

Pre 90? ya zalameh LF opposed all FPM plans in the government; Hasbani and Abou Assi left their ministries and became experts in electricity just to prevent FPM from any achievement. Fi anjas min heik? They sided with Berri and Joumblat in this matter; they were the ones who asked to send the plan to the tenders' department and they're still asking for it knowing that this is an unnecessary step and it's used just to put obstacles in FPM way. This is just to mention one and the most important example

Fpm blocked all lf projects as well - from tele liban to others



Electricity dodgy deal was good to be blocked - it should go through the auction commission..

 

[Mockinggbird]

Pre 90? ya zalameh LF opposed all FPM plans in the government; Hasbani and Abou Assi left their ministries and became experts in electricity just to prevent FPM from any achievement. Fi anjas min heik? They sided with Berri and Joumblat in this matter; they were the ones who asked to send the plan to the tenders' department and they're still asking for it knowing that this is an unnecessary step and it's used just to put obstacles in FPM way. This is just to mention one and the most important example

true to a certain extent
but in general their ministers were working much better than FPMers
Cesar did not defend well his policies
till now vast majority of people don't get the power-ship deal details
and vast majority -even FPMers- believe in the LF version of truth
this is a total failure in explaining to the public opinion facts and numbers....
LF ministers were much more opportunist and did a better job

 

[Dark Angel]

true to a certain extent
but in general their ministers were working much better than FPMers
Cesar did not defend well his policies
till now vast majority of people don't get the power-ship deal details
and vast majority -even FPMers- believe in the LF version of truth
this is a total failure in explaining to the public opinion facts and numbers....
LF ministers were much more opportunist and did a better job

have you tried explaining the issue of the electricity to someone? you will soon discover that most of the people are not really interested in knowing the truth, let alone defend it and propagate it.
this doesn't go to say that FPM is doing a piss poor job in presenting fact, it simply indicates that a big portion of the population is not interested in facts, a good chunk of these, quite intentionally discard the facts.

 

[Abotareq93]

true to a certain extent
but in general their ministers were working much better than FPMers
Cesar did not defend well his policies
till now vast majority of people don't get the power-ship deal details
and vast majority -even FPMers- believe in the LF version of truth
this is a total failure in explaining to the public opinion facts and numbers....
LF ministers were much more opportunist and did a better job

How were they working much better than FPM ministers? Tell me about their achievements in their ministries unless you consider preventing FPM from implementing the electricity plan an achievement. Opportunism is a good quality now?!

 

[Abotareq93]

Fpm blocked all lf projects as well - from tele liban to others



Electricity dodgy deal was good to be blocked - it should go through the auction commission..

Tele Liban General Manager is usually appointed by the President; this has been the case since ages. What other LF projects did FPM block?

No, it shouldn't, the law says otherwise. Still, FPM agreed to send it to the commission twice but only one company submitted an offer; what can we do? Again, LF is asking to send it to this commission because it's a matter of ba3bassa not a matter of law and constitution

 

[Mockinggbird]

How were they working much better than FPM ministers? Tell me about their achievements in their ministries unless you consider preventing FPM from implementing the electricity plan an achievement. Opportunism is a good quality now?!

Opportunism is not a good quality but without any doubt it is legal in politics
Not just preventing Fpm
They portrayed that there are something illegal going on and they succeeded in convincing the public
Whether you like it or not this is what happened
People are fed up that after almost 10 years of fpm ministers we still don’t have power
They should have shouted more be more aggressive explaining Maybe resign or try to resign
Let the people feel that Cesar is working doing something for them
This didn’t happen....

 

[new hope]

And he had to choose between PMA and Frangieh so he went for the lesser evil for him. Anyway, PMA was going to become President with or without the 8 votes of LF

that s wrong ! because jumblat and hariri wanted Frangieh .. if Geagea didn't move they were preparing to back frangieh for presidency.
Once Geagea declared he s with AOUN - jumblat cancelled his press conference and waited to see if it s serious or not .

next time we don't know what would happen ! would LF back tayyar again? it all gonna depend on how things will go after elections

 

[Mockinggbird]

have you tried explaining the issue of the electricity to someone? you will soon discover that most of the people are not really interested in knowing the truth, let alone defend it and propagate it.
this doesn't go to say that FPM is doing a piss poor job in presenting fact, it simply indicates that a big portion of the population is not interested in facts, a good chunk of these, quite intentionally discard the facts.

The people in charge were not able to simplify the formula and make people understand what’s really going on
I think they seriously failed in this
They might have done huge technical work but at the end the public is not aware and retain only that ships=corruption

 

[Abotareq93]

Opportunism is not a good quality but without any doubt it is legal in politics
Not just preventing Fpm
They portrayed that there are something illegal going on and they succeeded in convincing the public
Whether you like it or not this is what happened
People are fed up that after almost 10 years of fpm ministers we still don’t have power
They should have shouted more be more aggressive explaining Maybe resign or try to resign
Let the people feel that Cesar is working doing something for them
This didn’t happen....

Ye3ni you agree with me that LF are still the same before and after the 90s?

 

[Dark Angel]

The people in charge were not able to simplify the formula and make people understand what’s really going on
I think they seriously failed in this
They might have done huge technical work but at the end the public is not aware and retain only that ships=corruption

we are buying the electricity from the boats for around 30% cheaper than our average production coast in our power plants.
how can that be simplified further? that is as simple as it gets.

FPM did not fail in simplifying the formula. it failed in propagating it. but brush that problem aside, you will still remain with sha3b rasso tanke.

bet2ello the electricity from the boats is cheaper, byerja3 ba3d 5 minutes bi ellak jebran baddo yjib el bawekhir ta yesre2na. w 5 minutes later they tell you about jebran's private jet. sha3b mastoul, it will be a big mistake to treat the Lebanese as a people capable of discerning.

 

[SeaAb]

we are buying the electricity from the boats for around 30% cheaper than our average production coast in our power plants.
how can that be simplified further? that is as simple as it gets.

FPM did not fail in simplifying the formula. it failed in propagating it. but brush that problem aside, you will still remain with sha3b rasso tanke.

bet2ello the electricity from the boats is cheaper, byerja3 ba3d 5 minutes bi ellak jebran baddo yjib el bawekhir ta yesre2na. w 5 minutes later they tell you about jebran's private jet. sha3b mastoul, it will be a big mistake to treat the Lebanese as a people capable of discerning.

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