Informational [Fiber - FTTC this year] Ministry of Telecom

dodzi

Legendary Member
#1
Will Boutros Harb be an epic failure?

Let us not just open threads to comment on the work of FPM's successful ministers. Let us also judge the work of others!

We have opened 3 threads in a row for the Telecom Ministry (one for Bassil, one for Nahhas and one for Sehnaoui). Let's not get bored by the topic, and report everything that is written about this topic!


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Let me start with what most have already seen:

 
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  • Bandar

    Active Member
    Orange Room Supporter
    #2
    A young Kata'eb personality should have taken the Telecom. This ministry needs a 30-35 years old person, someone who is on his Samsung S4 or iPhone 5 all day long. Harb would do well to surround himself with younger advisers if he wants to enjoy any success in this ministry.

    My one and only judgement of this ministry is based upon 3G, the speed and the price. My feeling is that Minister Sehnaoui rushed to release the 4G, while the 3G prices and speed were still too expensive/slow, respectively. I think that the money used to start up the 4G would have been better spent making the 3G prices more competitive. Still, he did a good job, and I have my doubts about Harb being able to keep up the improvements that we saw in the past two years (probably the only ministry that was handled somewhat decently, in my opinion).

    As it stands, it's 20 bucks for 750MB and 30 bucks for 1.5GB. These prices are ridiculous unless the only thing you are using is WhatsApp and Facebook, and the data always finishes before the month is actually over. 3GB which would actually last for the month, is a whopping 50 dollars, which is not affordable to a middle class young person who has other priorities.

    20 dollars for 2GB/month is the sweet spot. Whoever can deliver the service at this price has my support.
     

    Rock

    Well-Known Member
    #3
    Again you are asking the minister to do what is not his job...
    Privatize the business like they did all over Europe
    let companies compete, create jobs and offer a better service to the customer

    It wasnt Sahnaoui's job or now Harb's to get 3G, 4G, telepathy...
    Their job is to regulate the telecoms, prevent cartels from setting up, cash in the money from renting the bandwidth...
     

    Bandar

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    Orange Room Supporter
    #4
    Again you are asking the minister to do what is not his job...
    Privatize the business like they did all over Europe
    let companies compete, create jobs and offer a better service to the customer

    It wasnt Sahnaoui's job or now Harb's to get 3G, 4G, telepathy...
    Their job is to regulate the telecoms, prevent cartels from setting up, cash in the money from renting the bandwidth...
    Of course you are right, but the political class will fight privatization tooth and nail, with whatever means they have at their disposal.

    It's not a secret that Lebanon's private economy is the strongest in the entire Arab world, and that telecoms, energy, banking, etc... would all be much better in the hands of civilian businesses than the government, at least for the time being.

    M14 and M8 alike are both more interested in seeing a particular ministry go to their preferred mafioso leader rather than thinking "what benefits me the most?"
     

    Wolf

    Well-Known Member
    #5
    Again you are asking the minister to do what is not his job...
    Privatize the business like they did all over Europe
    let companies compete, create jobs and offer a better service to the customer

    It wasnt Sahnaoui's job or now Harb's to get 3G, 4G, telepathy...
    Their job is to regulate the telecoms, prevent cartels from setting up, cash in the money from renting the bandwidth...
    do not go together
     

    Rock

    Well-Known Member
    #6
    Laws, regulations, institutions with committees watching over committees watching over committees watching over committees ...
    all those watched over by the MP's, watched over by the people...
    that is how you create safeguards

    not by hoping your current minister is honest
     

    My Moria Moon

    Legendary Member
    Staff member
    #7
    Boutrosh's vanity and his career oriented oversized self esteem is what makes the guy still tick, despite his desperate need for a rocking chair to spend longer and longer siestas. With fixed orbits around laws and law paragraphs, his aging rusty brains will refuse to reprogram and try to embrace the new age / new technique language- For the old man, 4 G, android, app and gigabits are confusing words for disturbing concepts, he promised himself he won't bother understanding, neither before nor after he became the minister of them.

    In other words, Boutros was called upon only to fill this particular space in the chairs distribution formula so that fer3 bandar will not get its behind kicked every time it needs to play beit byout with the data. Sadly for our own dear forum bandar who will keep day dreaming but not see the shadow of those 20 $ / 2GB/month, during Boutros term, the telecom sector will be practically ruled by Abdel shou ismo haida Youssif taba3 el ogero.
     

    Amirkani

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    Orange Room Supporter
    #8
    20 dollars for 2GB/month is the sweet spot. Whoever can deliver the service at this price has my support.
    LOL. Are you setting the bar already for Harb? An extra 0.5 GB for the same price? Aya ahbal can accomplish that with just one decree from the CoM. Why setting the bar so low?

    Anyway, had that crook Abdel Menhem Youssef released the E1 lines that the cellular operators had been requesting for over 2 years, your 2.0GB for $20 would been surpassed a long time ago. Today the operators are having to buy E1 lines from other sources for double the price that was set for Ogero by the CoM. Youssef is screwing both the consumers and the Treasury by refusing (for no reason whatsoever) to release E1 lines that are abundantly available.

    If Harb wants to have an accomplishment that really benefits the people and the State, let him sack Youssef. I think Hariri will let him.


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    dodzi

    Legendary Member
    #9
    Again you are asking the minister to do what is not his job...
    Privatize the business like they did all over Europe
    let companies compete, create jobs and offer a better service to the customer

    It wasnt Sahnaoui's job or now Harb's to get 3G, 4G, telepathy...
    Their job is to regulate the telecoms, prevent cartels from setting up, cash in the money from renting the bandwidth...
    They didn't privatize the business in Europe. They progressively liberalize it. And again, the liberalization only happened a few years ago. You need to set the right standards, laws and regulations before opening up the market. Bassil and Sehnaoui have been laying the ground for that. That's why both of them and Nahas have been calling for the opening of a 3rd mobile services provider before liberalizing the market.

    Again, liberalizing has nothing to do with privatizing. For instance, in Belgium the Belgian state is still the majority shareholder of Belgacom, but there are other private companies against which it competes.

    Lebanon could follow that model, and the government could open up the mobile phone companies on the stockmarket, but still retain the majority or a large part of its shares. This is particularly the case in France, Germany and the Netherlands!
     

    Amirkani

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    #15
    عودة خدمة الـ"واتس آب" الى العمل بشكل طبيعي بعد الانقطاع عن عدة دول في العالم بما فيها لبنان

    walla bravo Boutros Harb rajja3a bi ser3a... deyman sohran 3a masla7et el-balad.


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    dodzi

    Legendary Member
    #17


    LBC حرب للـ

    كان يجب على الصحناوي التصرف حيال موضوع المدير العام في الوزارة
    الوزير الذي استلمت منه الوزارة لم يجتمع مع مدير عام الصيانة ولا بمدير اوجيرو
    تفاجأت بالكم الهائل من المشاكل في الوزارة وشعرت بخلل ما فيها​

    Ya li soukhryat al kadar
    i hope he fixes them instead of yapping and bitching about it on TV... yalla lanshouf, au travail
    Nicolas Sehnaoui likes comic superheroes, Boutros Harb is himself a superhero, he is also very comic. Watch the comedy in a couple of months when he says he didn't have time to do anything...
    Guys, here's the new thread to discuss the Telecom ministry.

    Regarding Harb, the only reason he is in the Ministry is to "tell the people" how bad his predecessor was, with no intention of changing anything himself. Second reason is because M14 really want to win Batroun...
     

    Raficoo

    Well-Known Member
    #18
    I do believe this article is relevant to the current internet situation

    Low investment, slow Internet impede startups

    BEIRUT: Despite the economic slowdown in Lebanon, many Lebanese entrepreneurs have decided to defy the odds by establishing their own startups, efforts that could in theory help curb an alarming jobless rate of 34 percent among the youth.

    But ambitious wishes do not necessarily come true in a country that is easily impacted by other nations’ problems and is often paralyzed by a government that hardly performs its duties.

    Lebanese entrepreneurs have been facing major challenges that need to be addressed urgently if the country intends to benefit from this sector.

    Successful startups and businesses in general rely heavily on high-speed Internet connections and it is well known that every increase in the bandwidth of a country has a direct impact on its GDP,” Henri Asseily, a well-known entrepreneur, told The Daily Star, calling on the government to step up its efforts in this area.

    Asseily is the co-founder of BizRate.com, one of the world’s largest consumer feedback platforms, surveying tens of millions of buyers each year. In 1999, he expanded the platform to online comparison shopping and created Shopzilla, which today is one of the largest shopping sites in worldwide.

    Asseily praised the launching of the Beirut Digital District, saying that he was planning to locate some of his companies there to be able to use the infrastructure. “But I was not able to do so because the fiber optic is not turned on and it needs [Cabinet’s] approval,” he said.

    For several years now, successive Lebanese telecoms ministers have announced “imminent plans” to launch a national fiber-optic network that would enable the country to finally catch up to the rest of the world and offer globally competitive Internet speeds and packages.

    However, the project is still ongoing, and most Lebanese are still connecting via DSL at one of the world’s slowest data rates of about 1 megabit per second.

    “We need politicians to start working for the country as opposed to working against each other,” Asseily said.

    His concern was echoed by Ziad Mabsout, co-founder of Ubility Net, a startup providing innovative end-to-end policy solutions for mobile operators, who said that bad infrastructure such as Internet, for instance, was hindering the expansion of businesses.

    “Entrepreneurship is often connected with ICT nowadays because this industry needs low capital in terms of innovation and a good developer can achieve his job at home,” he said. “So it goes without saying that a bad Internet connection impedes the expansion of entrepreneurs in the ICT industry.”

    We still don’t have fair and acceptable Internet connectivity,” said Fadi Sabbagha, CEO and founder of Born Interactive, a media agency offering professional multimedia services and online solutions.

    ......
    Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Busines...w-internet-impede-startups.ashx#ixzz2vZ9cJXTE
    (The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
    So basically what this means is that although we've gone far these past 2-4 years, we're still quite behind in terms of internet quality and connectivity and undoubtedly this is a factor that's hindering additional GDP growth.

    Now to compare with other countries in the region, I've used OOKLA's Net Index stats page which shows the average download/upload/"quality" rating and "promise" index and listed a few to see how Lebanon fairs in download for example (Source: http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/ as of 10th of March, 2014.)

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    and I'm not too optimistic on this current cabinet to fix that considering they can't even agree on a policy statement yet. I do hope presidential elections will happen and Sehnaoui gets back, but oh well, good things never do last forever.
     

    Raficoo

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    #19
    Harb seeks better deal for Lebanese on cellphone bills

    BEIRUT: Telecommunications Minister Boutros Harb hopes to make state-owned cellphone networks more efficient by revising the contracts that outsource their management to the private sector, a source at the ministry said Friday.

    “Harb is interested in modifying the contracts with Alfa and touch to reduce the cost of running the networks on behalf the state. He also wants the companies to pledge to improve the quality of services and end the constant interruptions of phone call conversations,” the source told The Daily Star.

    Touch, which was previously known as MTC, has been operating in Lebanon since 2004, while Alfa entered the market in 2009. Both networks are owned by the government, but their management is contracted out to Zain Group and Orascom Telecom, respectively.

    According to the existing outsourcing agreement, the government pays both companies a $7.5 million monthly fee to operate the networks, as well as a bonus for every client they attract.

    Former Telecommunications Minister Nicolas Sehnaoui renewed the contracts with Alfa and touch for three months in December last year, in order to guarantee that cellular services in Lebanon would not be interrupted. His caretaker government did not have the power to launch a new tender.

    The source at the ministry said the general managers at Alfa and touch were aware of Harb’s plans, which would have to be enacted before the contracts expire at the end of March.

    “We have been in direct [contact] with the firms since Harb took office. We know that we can’t launch a tender at short notice, but ... we will endeavor to obtain the best conditions for the state,” the source said.

    “Each firm generates between $15-16 million a month from the income and bonuses,” one telecoms expert told The Daily Star.

    But the expert doubts that the companies will make any drastic changes to the contracts at such short notice.

    “What can Harb do if the companies do not make major modifications to the contracts? He can’t replace them in one week,” he said.

    Marwan Hayek, the general manager of Alfa, said the networks were negotiating with Harb and his team but declined to say if the contracts will be renewed.

    “We are studying the terms [put in place] by the minister and we are fully cooperating with the ministry,” Hayek said.

    Claude Bassil, touch’s general manager, was not available to comment on the contracts.

    The source close to Harb said the minister would not rush the decision.

    “Harb has only two months in office and he realizes that he can’t perform miracles in a short period. But he will do his best to improve the quality of services and reduce the cost of cellular calls. He is a lawyer and he intends to follow the law to the letter,” the source said.

    The minister intends to hold a news conference next Wednesday to unveil his plans for the sector.

    “Harb will try to persuade the president of the republic, prime minister and the ministers to reduce the cost of land line and cellular bills to relieve the citizens,” the source said, adding: “The cellular bills are 10 times higher than in France and this is unacceptable.”

    However, observers are skeptical that the Cabinet will agree to reduce the phone bills dramatically, as they generate more than $1 billion for the Treasury each year.

    Sources said that Harb plans to increase the speed of the Internet in Lebanon, which is among the slowest in the world.

    Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Busines...ebanese-on-cellphone-bills.ashx#ixzz2wdrCuJrE
    (The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
    It's gonna need some kind of miracle for anything to happen within 2 months, but perhaps we could set a step for future ministers to continue on, guess we should wait for Wednesday to see what happens next, a plan to move forward with Fiber optics? or the introduction of the all new Dial up modem!:madgrin:
     

    Lebnaouneh

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    #20
    It's gonna need some kind of miracle for anything to happen within 2 months, but perhaps we could set a step for future ministers to continue on, guess we should wait for Wednesday to see what happens next, a plan to move forward with Fiber optics? or the introduction of the all new Dial up modem!:madgrin:
    He's just gonna unblock what Abdel men3em youssef has blocked. Ma badda shi...it's gonna be painful to see him take the credit for tayyar's work, but I hope the lebanese people will be able to reason that nothing could have been done during this month and that it was the work of the previous ministers.
     

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