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Finance minister stops paying LAF catering since Nov2018 - A scandal affecting the pillar of the country?

Is the Shia Finance Minister stopping to pay for foods for the army

  • Done on purpose

    Votes: 3 60.0%
  • No purpose problem of money

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • A ploy by Shia duo to weaken the army morale and image

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A national treason

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • A big mistake

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Not serious

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • Total voters
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Rafidi

Rafidi

Legendary Member
SLA were defending their homes after the State neglected its responsibility. They created the predecessor of SLA and when Syria invaded and the army collapsed, they branded them traitors. And what was the mission of Free Lebanon Army and then SLA? Defend the South from Palestinian attacks (they have declared the South as Fatehland -- de facto annexing the South), and later against Hizbullah, an Iranian implant amidst the chaos of Lebanon's civil war. It was created, is funded, and controlled by Iran since the Start. Sheikh Naim Qassem was lecturing about Wilayet el-Faqih in Iran in 1979. He is #2 (#1) in Hizbullah. Read any of his books and tell me this is a man who believes in Lebanese sovereignty. The SLA NEVER believed Israel had any intentions of annexing the South and adding a large non-Jewish population to the country. Neither did Israel have any intention of doing so. You take my jokes ("to the Litani") too serious. Israel currently has a water surplus and gain nothing by annexing South Lebanon.

Your fate is tied to the Mullah regime. They go, so is Hizbullah's source of power. And when that happens, it will be open season on Hizbullah leaders in Lebanon. I feel sorry for you. Really, I do. I pity how tribal you are. I have been conversing with Hizbullah apologists much like yourself for many years, online and offline, and for years you've defended Hizbullah's Lebanese identity and decision-making, at a time when Hizbullah leadership were not being explicit about the nature of their relationship with Iran. And now, these same leaders publicly declare that they are nothing but an extension of Iran's regime, meaning they sacrificed your children and future for the sake of Iranian interests, you still sit here and defend them, acting like a sheep being led to slaughter. Maybe one day you'll wake up, but I doubt it.
I do not think Iran needs to be defended by HA. And if they do, that would be outside Lebanon. For 13 years, there has been peace in our border and the South has been peaceful until Netanyahu wanted to use our peace for his election campaign. And it failed woefully. We don't want war with Israehell. And we are left with no choice but to see HA as the defender of the land. Many my likes are neither a part of HA and we don't want an Islamic republic in Lebanon. But we want out land to be safe and secure. With Israehell going about annexing lands of other people, it will only be wise to take heed and be cautious. It is very obvious israehell could do the same to us if they can.
 
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  • Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Israel did what it did for its own purposes just like any other country. Israel doesn't want the palestinians to fire from south of lebanon and our state let it do that as it didn't really care for the south.
    The Palestinians left. The Shia (Amal) fought the Palestinians and pushed them into their camps. Why didn't Israehell leave? Some of you would even say some Shia threw rice at Israehelli soldiers. Why didn't they leave and why did they choose to occupy the South for years? Of course the rice incident was based on a false rumor spread that the Israehellis had freed Imam Sadr and he was found kidnapped by the Palestinians.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    The Palestinians left. The Shia (Amal) fought the Palestinians and pushed them into their camps. Why didn't Israehell leave? Some of you would even say some Shia threw rice at Israehelli soldiers. Why didn't they leave and why did they choose to occupy the South for years? Of course the rice incident was based on a false rumor spread that the Israehellis had freed Imam Sadr and he was found kidnapped by the Palestinians.
    You do know that the SLA was 65% shia right?
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    I do not think Iran needs to be defended by HA. And if they do, that would be outside Lebanon. For 13 years, there has been peace in our border and the South has been peaceful until Netanyahu wanted to use our peace for his election campaign. And it failed woefully. We don't want war with Israehell. And we are left with no choice but to see HA as the defender of the land. Many my likes are neither a part of HA and we don't want an Islamic republic in Lebanon. But we want out land to be safe and secure. With Israehell going about annexing lands of other people, it will only be wise to take heed and be cautious. It is very obvious israehell could do the same to us if they can.
    This is unjustified fear, and it is being used by Hizbullah to keep Lebanon from prospering economically. Only peace can do that. Hizbullah ideology, as written by Naim Qassem, is to create a society of war (مجتمع حرب), which is a direct conflict to the one guarantee Lebanon has to have a chance at prosperity. No one in Lebanon wants to be as poor as Iranians currently are, and that's the road Hizbullah takes you on. Do not think for a moment the oil & gas wealth will save the Lebanese people. If the ruling mafias do not steal it, the high interest rate loans will.

    The Palestinians bring misery upon themselves by trusting Iran and self-serving opportunists who have pocketed millions. They were offered 95% of what they asked for in the past, to build their own state. 95%! And they refused. That offer came at a time when Palestinian suicide bombers were still blowing themselves up in busses and cafeterias. Now they are unable to do so, and the sympathy a major section of Israelis once had for the Palestinians is now gone. And with it are the softass deals without final settlement of the conflict and lasting peace deal. Until the Palestinians are ready to deal, they can watch Israel implement a policy of manifest destiny.

    Hizbullah used (and uses) the Palestinians as an excuse, nothing more. They serve their Shia marje3iyyi in Iran, not the Sunni Palestinians. They'll fight the latter if the former required it. The nature of the conflict between Lebanon and Israel, and Israel and the Palestinians, is different and unrelated.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

    Legendary Member
    This is unjustified fear, and it is being used by Hizbullah to keep Lebanon from prospering economically. Only peace can do that. Hizbullah ideology, as written by Naim Qassem, is to create a society of war (مجتمع حرب), which is a direct conflict to the one guarantee Lebanon has to have a chance at prosperity. No one in Lebanon wants to be as poor as Iranians currently are, and that's the road Hizbullah takes you on. Do not think for a moment the oil & gas wealth will save the Lebanese people. If the ruling mafias do not steal it, the high interest rate loans will.

    The Palestinians bring misery upon themselves by trusting Iran and self-serving opportunists who have pocketed millions. They were offered 95% of what they asked for in the past, to build their own state. 95%! And they refused. That offer came at a time when Palestinian suicide bombers were still blowing themselves up in busses and cafeterias. Now they are unable to do so, and the sympathy a major section of Israelis once had for the Palestinians is now gone. And with it are the softass deals without final settlement of the conflict and lasting peace deal. Until the Palestinians are ready to deal, they can watch Israel implement a policy of manifest destiny.

    Hizbullah used (and uses) the Palestinians as an excuse, nothing more. They serve their Shia marje3iyyi in Iran, not the Sunni Palestinians. They'll fight the latter if the former required it. The nature of the conflict between Lebanon and Israel, and Israel and the Palestinians, is different and unrelated.
    Then Israehell should stop threatening Lebanon, stop violating our sovereignty, withdraw from occupied lands and let its allies find a solution to the Palestinian refugees.

    Just weeks ago, when Netanyahu chose to use Lebanon for his electoral campaign, everyone stood by Hezballah. Why? Because Hezballah did not offend Israehell or fire a bullet. They were on the defense. Israehell should not give Hezballah excuses or reasons to start war and we'd be fine. If Hezballah chooses to attack Israehell, then we can say what you're preaching is correct. Nasrallah has repeatedly said he doesn't want war but if war is imposed on us, he can defend the country. I was reading a report on Haaretz and the commentator said "Nasrallah is a fair enemy". He is not a warmongering "terrorist" who's bloodthirsty. He fights for a cause: to defend, protect and liberate his country. Its a noble and just cause.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    HA decided to take the army's food money to compensate for Tramb the idiot's sanctions.
    Trump the Crusader in Chief gave your army 350 millions dollars this year of new weapons
    Your FPM led government is starving the army and taking maintenance budget
    I don’t mind reforming the umada
    But leave the simple soldier out
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    Ma fi ghayr skunky wa aouny and muki in the forum badna bouta jdideh.
    Y’a aoune y’a habibeh i said since 4 years to kick this idiot Hassan Khalil from all ministries especially finance. Theirs and militia thugs can’t govern a country.
    Yalla jaddido y’a chabeb
    Habibi
    Hassan Khalil is another ذراع
    You talk like his decisions in government are his own
    He carefully executes instructions word by word in his ministry

    Even if you replace Hassan Khalil with someone who comes from the same crop, the end result will be exactly the same.
    guaranteed.
     
    Weezy

    Weezy

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    I
    you're laughing...
    Caterers weren't paid since 2018, that's a f*ckin conspiracy

    there is nothing that kills the morale of a soldier who sacrificed his whole life other than:
    1- making him feel irrelevant and weak due to constant reminders by HA, and unfortunately FPMers and the President now.. stating that the army is weak and useless
    2- taking his sacrifices for granted, passing a budget cutting down his well deserved income
    3- Not paying for his food while he burns in the sun all day
    shall i continue ?

    the army is Strong and capable
    HA need not to cross red lines internally

    nahr el bared is the prime example of how strong the army is
    The conspiracy is there, that's why Francois Hajj the mastermind of the operation died
    HA's power is overrated anyways. If it weren't for the Russians HA would have been dealt with by the Syrians in the early days of the war.
     
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    lebanese1

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    This man yesterday returned against HA wish
    Good move
    الدولة تكرّم جزّار الخيام






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    قبل أيام، عاد إلى بيروت عامر الياس الفاخوري، القائد العسكري السابق لمعتقل الخيام. عبر المطار، وصل الفاخوري، الذي كان مسؤولاً عن كتيبة عملاء من عصابات أنطوان لحد، مهمتها حراسة معتقل الخيام الشهير، والمشاركة في إدارته وقمع المعتقلين الذين كان جيش الاحتلال الإسرائيلي وعملاؤه ينكّلون بهم فيه. الفاخوري، وهو من الجنوب (56 عاماً)، يزعم أنه غادر لبنان إلى الولايات المتحدة الأميركية عام 1998، عبر فلسطين المحتلة، بعد خلاف مع رؤسائه. لكنه، قبل ذلك، كان أحد أشهر العملاء بين ضحايا الخطف والاعتقال والتعذيب في معتقل الخيام. هو أحد رأسَي المعتقل، إلى جانب رئيس جهاز الأمن والتحقيق جان الحمصي (أبو نبيل). ولا عميل فوقهما. كانا يتبعان مباشرة للاستخبارات الإسرائيلية.
    في مطار رفيق الحريري الدولي، الأسبوع الفائت، لاحظ عنصر الأمن العام المكلَّف التدقيق في جوازات سفر الواصلين إلى بيروت أن حامل جواز السفر الأميركي، عامر الياس الفاخوري، مطلوب للتوقيف. لكن التدقيق في ما بين يديه أظهر أن قرار التوقيف «مسحوب». فخلاصة الحكم الغيابي بالسجن 15 عاماً مع الأشغال الشاقة، كما مذكرات التوقيف في جرائم الخطف والاغتصاب، إضافة إلى مذكرات التوقيف غير القضائية الصادرة عن الجيش اللبناني (في البرقية رقم 303)، كلها «مسحوبة». يعني ذلك أن الأمن العام عاجز عن توقيفه، لغياب أيّ قرار قضائي يتيح ذلك. ما العمل؟ للمدير العام للأمن العام صلاحية «سحب أوراق» من يريد. سُمح للفاخوري بدخول البلاد، بعد حجز جواز سفره.
    من الذي سوّى وضع الفاخوري الذي يقول معتقلون محررون من «الخيام» إنه شريك في المسؤولية العملية عن كل التعذيب الذي لحق بهم، فضلاً عن أصل اعتقالهم؟ مَن القوة «الخفية» التي سمحت بسحب كل المذكرات الصادرة بحقه؟ إحدى الإجابات التي حصلت عليها «الأخبار» أمس، بصعوبة، تفيد بأن الحكم الصادر بحقه سقط بسبب مرور عشرين عاماً على صدوره! حسناً. ماذا عن مذكرات التوقيف التي يُصدرها الجيش؟ من الذي أمر بالتراجع عنها؟ قد تكمن الإجابة في فضيحة من نوع آخر. يوم أمس، رافق الفاخوري إلى مقر الأمن العام قرب العدلية في بيروت، ضابطٌ من الجيش، برتبة عميد، وهو بلباسه العسكري! هل تبرّع العميد من تلقاء نفسه لمعاونة الفاخوري على تسوية وضعه في الأمن العام، ومن دون علم قيادته؟ لماذا التعامل بهذا القدر من الخفّة مع قضية أمنية وإنسانية وقانونية بهذه الخطورة؟ البرقية المنقولة رقم 303، ورغم كونها لا تصدر بقرار قضائي، إلا أنها كانت، في قضايا التعامل مع العدو الإسرائيلي تحديداً، تشكّل حماية «فوق - قانونية» للأمن الوطني. فلماذا التنازل عنها في ملف هذا العميل المحكوم تحديداً؟


    الأسئلة أكثر من أن تجد إجابة واضحة عنها. لكن تكفي للدلالة على خطورة الرجل، أن أحد المسؤولين الأمنيين، عندما اتصلت به «الأخبار»، مستفسرة عن ملابسات عودة الفاخوري إلى بيروت، كانت ردة فعله التلقائية بالسؤال عن مكان وجوده لاعتقاله، قبل أن يكتشف أن العميل «السابق» عاد بصورة شرعية، وبقرار «جهة عليا».
    القانون في لبنان لا يسمح بتوقيف الفاخوري بعد عشرين عاماً على صدور حكم بحقه؟ حسناً. ما الذي يحول دون منعه من العودة إلى البلاد التي خانها؟ ما الذي منع طرده؟ في ذلك، بدل التكريم الذي حظي به، أقلّ الاحترام لضحاياه.
    11:10 معلومات للـ"أل بي سي": الأمن العام اللبناني يحقق مع القائد العسكري السابق لمعتقل الخيام عامر الياس الفاخوري لليوم الثاني على التوالي
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    11:10 معلومات للـ"أل بي سي": الأمن العام اللبناني يحقق مع القائد العسكري السابق لمعتقل الخيام عامر الياس الفاخوري لليوم الثاني على التوالي
    He is protected by FPM nothing will happen
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    HA's power is overrated anyways. If it weren't for the Russians HA would have been dealt with by the Syrians in the early days of the war.
    I agree without Russia
    HA on the khazoue In 2015,
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    11:10 معلومات للـ"أل بي سي": الأمن العام اللبناني يحقق مع القائد العسكري السابق لمعتقل الخيام عامر الياس الفاخوري لليوم الثاني على التوالي

    tayeb he is a traitor and by law he is free to come

    what about the syrian traitors who killed us and became MPs
    we forgave all
    so time to forgave isareli traitors as well

    clean page
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    tayeb he is a traitor and by law he is free to come

    what about the syrian traitors who killed us and became MPs
    we forgave all
    so time to forgave isareli traitors as well

    clean page
    Good thinking time for HA to stop ?
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    HA's power is overrated anyways. If it weren't for the Russians HA would have been dealt with by the Syrians in the early days of the war.

    akid, heseb did their best biut wasnt enough
    same goes for the orcs
    if not for israel and usa, they had zero chance to win a town

    anyway

    whether its the eastern crusaders or western ones
    both da3seen on ze oumma and thats what matters

    with one difference
    shia and iran are stronger and the eastern crusaders are having the upper hand in the region hahahahhaa
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    tayeb 7terna ma3koun

    ya FPM is pro heseb or it isnt

    DECIDE hahahahaha
    It is pro HA to a certain degree
    But yesterday mawouad plus Frem statement condemned HA speech by Nasro
    Even edy maalouf condemned the speech partially
    Your criticism is being partially heard
    So hope FPM wake up sms move their ass a little
    I give them until 2022
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    It is pro HA to a certain degree
    But yesterday mawouad plus Frem statement condemned HA speech by Nasro
    Even edy maalouf condemned the speech partially
    Your criticism is being partially heard
    So hope FPM wake up sms move their ass a little
    I give them until 2022
    please dont give us til 2022, act now
    be free and keep your chair with ga3ga3 camp

    tayyar alkways and will always act in the appropriate manner
     
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