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Finance minister stops paying LAF catering since Nov2018 - A scandal affecting the pillar of the country?

Is the Shia Finance Minister stopping to pay for foods for the army

  • Done on purpose

    Votes: 3 60.0%
  • No purpose problem of money

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • A ploy by Shia duo to weaken the army morale and image

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A national treason

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • A big mistake

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Not serious

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • Total voters
    5
HannaTheCrusader

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رئيس الحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي وليد جنبلاط في تغريدة له على حسابه عبر "تويتر"، أنّ "الطائرات المُسيَّرة لها علاج".

وسأل:"من هي الجهة في هذه الجمهورية التي لا تزال تعتقل من طرفٍ واحدٍ في حادثة البساتين خلافًا لروح المصارحة والمصالحة؟ ومن هي الجهة التي تُشرٍّع عودة العملاء من جيش لحد الذين ارتكبوا الجرائم بحق أهل الجنوب والخيام ؟".
hahahha
that man is gone
lp0ng gone

he just says such things for internal consumption
as he ahs over 6 killers arrested under prosecution

who cares what he says
he went and 2adam al ta3a to SHN and GB , end of story
and as a reward taymour was allowed to meet the russian deputy foreign minister for middle east bogdanoff....
 
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    Thawra # Furoshima

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    hahahha
    that man is gone
    lp0ng gone

    he just says such things for internal consumption
    as he ahs over 6 killers arrested under prosecution

    who cares what he says
    he went and 2adam al ta3a to SHN and GB , end of story
    and as a reward taymour was allowed to meet the russian deputy foreign minister for middle east bogdanoff....
    Bogdanov work for you really
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    Hilarious

    because that's exactly my description of both FPMers and LFers
    they both serve muslim camps

    call me whatever you want
    ضميري مرتاح

    Christians need to form their own INDEPENDANT CAMP

    you can join the reat tayyar movement under roukouz

    as for serving muslim interets

    ghareeb
    tayayr is being atatcked by sunnis and shia and druze
    yet tele3 ma3aka anno we serve islamic agenda

    thank God majority of Christians dont adopt your approach
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Hilarious

    because that's exactly my description of both FPMers and LFers
    they both serve muslim camps

    call me whatever you want
    ضميري مرتاح

    Christians need to form their own INDEPENDANT CAMP
    Let’s begin on this forum
    The Sunk LVV party
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    Bogdanov work for you really

    he works for russia interests
    and russia interest is alligned with ours

    why did he not see taymur earlier ??
    jumblat had asked for a meeting for over a year

    only when he subjugated himself ( for now, as jumblat will tr and back stab when given a Chance), meeting took place


    seems sefa7 meerab has affected your reasoning
    make them 2 chairs, this way you can relax more in meerab
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    you can join the reat tayyar movement under roukouz

    as for serving muslim interets

    ghareeb
    tayayr is being atatcked by sunnis and shia and druze
    yet tele3 ma3aka anno we serve islamic agenda

    thank God majority of Christians dont adopt your approach
    It takes time for the brainwash to dissolve

    Christians lost their right to decide their fate under FPM's watch
    I refuse the fact that Nasrallah zira3 al khamenei speaks for me

    I refuse that Nasrallah goes on TV and declares Lebanon position of Israeli drones and an airstrike in Syria
    and then Majles a3la lal dife3 meets afterwards and gives signature without even investigating the freaking drones

    I accept
    Majles a3la lal dife3 led by my President, declare Lebanon's position and then Nasrallah acts based on what was decided by elected people
    THAT i accept

    but not the other way around.
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    as usual
    christians works and klab ahel sunni and berri tries to block
    but they wont succeed

    منذ عام 1993، كلّف ملفّ المهجّرين الدولة اللبنانية نحو 2900 مليار ليرة لبنانية، من ضمن موازنات الدولة ومن خارجها، ومع ذلك، لا يزال مئات الآلاف من المهجّرين بعيدين عن قراهم، وأكثر من 140 ألف ملف متراكم حين تسلّم عطالله الوزارة، من دون حلول في الأفق.
    وعلى مدى السنوات الماضية، تحوّل ملف المهجّرين، كغيره من الملفّات، مشروعاً للاستغلال السياسي، خصو
    صاً في مواسم الانتخابات النيابية والبلدية. وقد خيضت معارك انتخابية كاملة في الجبل، عبر هذه الأموال التي كانت تدفع بالواسطة وبالمحسوبيات لعدد كبير من غير المستحقين، لكن مع استمرار الأزمة في القرى المتضررة، وانسلاخ كثيرين عن قراهم.
    ليس هذا فحسب، إذ إن دور وزارة المهجّرين لم يكن فقط بدفع التعويضات المختلفة في القرى، إلّا أنها تحوّلت إلى باب للمشاريع والخدمات. فالأموال المخصّصة للتعويضات، صرف جزء كبير منها لحفر الآبار لأشخاص محددين في القرى، ولبناء حيطان الدعم والتزفيت، ليس تحت باب الإنماء والتطوير لدعم العودة، بل خلال المواسم الانتخابية.

    خفّضت كلفة إغلاق الملف إلى أكثر من نصف المبلغ الذي طُلب نهاية 2017
    وحين يُراجَع الرقم 2900 مليار ليرة (نحو 1100 مليار من الموازنات والباقي من خارجها) الذي صرف حتى الآن، والمقارنة مع النتائج، يُصعق أي عاقل بحجم الهدر، الذي يقدّره عطالله بالنصف على الأقل، أي إن «نحو 1500 مليار ليرة كان كافياً لحل الأزمة بأكلمها». حتى إن آخر رقم جرى الحديث عنه، كان الرقم الذي قدّمته وزارة المهجرين في الحكومة السابقة، والذي بلغ 1350 مليار ليرة لبنانية لإنهاء الملفّ، بينما حصر مشروع القانون المقدّم من عطالله المبلغ المطلوب، ليُغلَق الملفّ بـ 631 مليار ليرة.
    الاقتراح الجديد جاء بعد دراسة الملفات المكدّسة منذ سنوات طويلة في الوزارة. وخلال الأشهر الماضية، تمكّن فريق عمل الوزارة من تصفية نحو 60 ألف ملفّ كان قد جرى التقدّم بها، لكن أصحابها من غير المستحقين، أو لا تنطبق عليهم المعايير التي حددها القانون، وبذلك انخفض رقم الملفات إلى ما بين 70 إلى 80 ألف يجري العمل على حسم الجزء الأخير منها خلال فترة زمنية قصيرة. الأمر الثاني، أن مشروع الوزير الجديد حدّد رقماً مالياً واضحاً لإنهاء الملف، بـ 631 مليار ليرة، «غير قابل للتعديل». وعلى ما يؤكّد عطالله، فإن البرنامج الذي يتضمنه المشروع، وفي حال التزامه من قبل الحكومة، يعني أن الوزارة ينتهي دورها في أقل من ثلاث سنوات، ويبقى الصندوق بعدها بقليل لاستكمال دفع المستحقات، وأنه «في نهاية العام المقبل، تكون الوزارة قد أنجزت نحو 80% من الملفات التي بحوزتها».

    بحلول نهاية العام المقبل تكون الوزارة قد أنجزت 80% من الملفات

    أما المتوقّع حول النقاشات اليوم بعد عرض الوزير مشروعه، فهو تأييد من قبل وزراء التيار الوطني الحرّ وحزب الله وحركة أمل بعد أن عبّر الرئيس نبيه برّي سابقاً عن تأييده له، والوزير يوسف فنيانوس. وبحسب المعلومات، فإن الرئيس سعد الحريري متحمّس له أيضاً، إلا أن العرقلة يتوقعها عطالله من قبل وزراء حزب القوات اللبنانية والحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي. فعلى الرغم من الأجواء الإيجابية اليوم بين التيار والاشتراكي، إلّا أن مشروع قانون عطالله يضع الاشتراكي في دائرة الاتهام بالمماطلة والهدر الذي أصاب هذا الملف طوال السنوات الماضية، خصوصاً أن الوزارة بقيت في عهدة الاشتراكي سنوات طويلة. بينما لن يكون سهلاً على القوات تمرير مشروع من هذا النوع، ما دام يُسجّل إنجازاً للتيار الوطني الحرّ.
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    It takes time for the brainwash to dissolve

    Christians lost their right to decide their fate under FPM's watch
    I refuse the fact that Nasrallah zira3 al khamenei speaks for me

    I refuse that Nasrallah goes on TV and declares Lebanon position of Israeli drones and an airstrike in Syria
    and then Majles a3la lal dife3 meets afterwards and gives signature without even investigating the freaking drones

    I accept
    Majles a3la lal dife3 led by my President, declare Lebanon's position and then Nasrallah acts based on what was decided by elected people
    THAT i accept

    but not the other way around.

    good for you
    as i said take a chair in meerab or where ever you feel like


    good luck
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    It takes time for the brainwash to dissolve

    Christians lost their right to decide their fate under FPM's watch
    I refuse the fact that Nasrallah zira3 al khamenei speaks for me

    I refuse that Nasrallah goes on TV and declares Lebanon position of Israeli drones and an airstrike in Syria
    and then Majles a3la lal dife3 meets afterwards and gives signature without even investigating the freaking drones

    I accept
    Majles a3la lal dife3 led by my President, declare Lebanon's position and then Nasrallah acts based on what was decided by elected people
    THAT i accept

    but not the other way around.
    Iza hek khalas byemshe el 7al...we will inform the sayyid to delay his speech next time.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    he works for russia interests
    and russia interest is alligned with ours

    why did he not see taymur earlier ??
    jumblat had asked for a meeting for over a year

    only when he subjugated himself ( for now, as jumblat will tr and back stab when given a Chance), meeting took place


    seems sefa7 meerab has affected your reasoning
    make them 2 chairs, this way you can relax more in meerab
    Hanna the ayatollah
    ???????
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    بالإذن من الجبّور يا عكاريت، بس "غصبًا عن الله تبع الله" هيدي الجمهورية اللبنانية مش جمهورية حدا تاني يا رخاص!
    بعدين بالتطبيق مش بالتنظير وتأجير مواقف، لا نحنا ولا جدودنا ولا جدود جدودنا شافوا الامبراطورية الفارسية مرّت من هنا، بس نحنا وجدودنا شفنا مثلا الإمبراطورية الإرهابية العثمانية نقبرت عنّا 400 سنة مع كل "مكرماتا وفضائلا وقيما الإنسانية" وما شفناكن حكيتوا كلمة عنن هاليومين بس فاعوا كل الحيايا والعقارب ع رئيس جمهوريتكن بس وصفهن بما يستحقّون! شاطرين تتمرجلوا ع المجوس اللي جابوا بالزمانات مرّ وبخور ولبان؟ أصلا انتو من نسل هيرودس مش من نسل ابن الإنسان!
    ملاحظة: اللي بيشوف عم دافع عن ايران وأجندتا، بيكون جحش!

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    HannaTheCrusader

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    klab al saud
    shou ma2houreen
    christians , real patriotic christians are returning back to government
    yte guess who supset

    klab ahel al sunna and araneb berri


    مراسلة الـmtv: الحصة الأكبر في التعيينات اليوم ستكون للمسيحيين وخصوصا من منطقة البترون
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Don't practice the same HA behaviour

    for HA, if we criticize them, we're sahayna
    for FPM, if we criticize then we're ga3ga3ga3

    Personally,
    i took a step back

    I support Christian unity
    and i blame both FPM and LF not allowing it to happen

    We need christian unity.
    if it takes a seat somewhere to shut LF and make them happy
    then i'd do it.
    BOTH Lf and FPM need to do some concessions with the ultimate goal unifying the christian street
    this is crucial facing the existential threats we're facing today.
    Ya 3ammeh, Christians are less than 50% of the population. You have half of all posts in parliament and government. The same with Muslims who have 50%. How can this country be ruled by one faction? HA itself cannot rule Lebanon without the cooperation of it's allies from other sects, like Aoun, Frangieh, Arslan, Wahab, Karameh, etc. So this isn't a religion or sectarian matter where one community can dominate. Its a political matter and based on alliances. HA has good allies and loyal ones from all communities. That means majority of Lebanese are with HA. Those barking are doing so for selfish interests and because they are indebted to foreign powers AT THE EXPENSE OF LEBANON.
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    laugh with ali hassan khalil
    ghabi al maliyat wa akbar 7arame bel dawlet ( houwe wa m3almo)

     
    Dark Angel

    Dark Angel

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    this is not the first time ali hassan khalil does something of this nature. either he is an incompetent person or a vindictive hateful bastard who should be put to trial. he does the same with the fuel ships every single time, causing further black outs and accumulating millions of dollars in penalties upon the treasury. in addition to presenting falsified numbers ahead of the silslet el retab wal rawetib, where he underestimated by alot the actual number of state employees, and without taking into account his statement about the rescheduling the internal debt which ended up costing billions of dollars and came out straight out of the central bank's reserves.

    this is not the right guy for the post and he should be sacked, period. it is about time this guy hits the road w yraye7na menno w men ar3anto.
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    Ya 3ammeh, Christians are less than 50% of the population. You have half of all posts in parliament and government. The same with Muslims who have 50%. How can this country be ruled by one faction? HA itself cannot rule Lebanon without the cooperation of it's allies from other sects, like Aoun, Frangieh, Arslan, Wahab, Karameh, etc. So this isn't a religion or sectarian matter where one community can dominate. Its a political matter and based on alliances. HA has good allies and loyal ones from all communities. That means majority of Lebanese are with HA. Those barking are doing so for selfish interests and because they are indebted to foreign powers AT THE EXPENSE OF LEBANON.
    It's funny how you accuse everyone else with exactly what HA is practicing today.
    keep living in your small bubble

    I'm not sure if you purposely place baits within each post you make on this forum.
    If you're doing it on purpose, then you need to know that people are not blind and can see how laughable most of your posts are
    if you're doing it unknowingly, then this only shows the amount of brainwash and propaganda you're exposed to.

    either way,
    I decided to stop reading your posts going forward.
    So don't bother quoting me.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    It's funny how you accuse everyone else with exactly what HA is practicing today.
    keep living in your small bubble

    I'm not sure if you purposely place baits within each post you make on this forum.
    If you're doing it on purpose, then you need to know that people are not blind and can see how laughable most of your posts are
    if you're doing it unknowingly, then this only shows the amount of brainwash and propaganda you're exposed to.

    either way,
    I decided to stop reading your posts going forward.
    So don't bother quoting me.
    Habibi, z3elet? :lol:
     
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    lebanese1

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    this is not the first time ali hassan khalil does something of this nature. either he is an incompetent person or a vindictive hateful bastard who should be put to trial. he does the same with the fuel ships every single time, causing further black outs and accumulating millions of dollars in penalties upon the treasury. in addition to presenting falsified numbers ahead of the silslet el retab wal rawetib, where he underestimated by alot the actual number of state employees, and without taking into account his statement about the rescheduling the internal debt which ended up costing billions of dollars and came out straight out of the central bank's reserves.

    this is not the right guy for the post and he should be sacked, period. it is about time this guy hits the road w yraye7na menno w men ar3anto.
    no sorry. marcel ghanem while introducing Alloush last week said that ALL sides youjmi3oun 3ala kafa2itihi fi idarat al wizara
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    I said it before
    and i say it again
    Shi3a won't waste a chance to weaken the army and destroy its morale
    This army you're talking on behalf of has about 50% or more of our sons, brothers and fathers and uncles. You're very silly.
     
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