Fouad Saniora: A public Servant who stole your Money,

HannaTheCrusader

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she still owns barely 4% of nahar :)

bass 3endak shaeb bi 2ellak anno nahar is the voice of the christians looooooooool

شريكة بـ42 سهم من أصل 998 سهم في شركة النهار للخدمات الصحفية، فيما تبلغ حصة النائب مروان حمادة مثلاً هنا 100 سهم.

• رئيسة مجلس إدارة شركة «النهار ش.م.ل» حيث تبلغ مساهمتها خمسة ملايين و230361 مقابل عشرة ملايين و236600 لشركة الم
ال للاستثمار التي يرأس مجلس إدارتها رئيس الحكومة السابق سعد الحريري.
• مساهمة في دار النهار للنشر


العدد ٢٧٤٥
 

modesty

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فريد مكاري لم يكن معه طن من الاموال فهو مهندس تخرج من الولايات المتحدة وذهب يعمل في المملكة السعودية كان موظف برتبة نائب الرئيس لشؤون العمليات في سعودي اوجيه عند رفيق الحريري وقد أكرمه هذا الأخير ولكن ماذا عن استغلاله لمركزه عندما استلم السلطة معلمه في لبنان وعينه نائباً على منطقته وحتى نائب لرئيس المجلس، كل المحيطين به من اهل منطقته يحكون عن عدم مساعدته لاحد عندما كان في سعودي اوجيه والسؤال المهم كم كانت ثروته قبل الحكم وكم اصبحت بعد الحكم هذا ما نريد معرفته.
 

leb-wi-noss

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فريد مكاري كان موظف برتبة نائب الرئيس لشؤون العمليات في سعودي اوجيه عند رفيق الحريري وقد أكرمه هذا الأخير اكراماً واسعاً ولكن ماذا عن استغلاله لمركزه عندما استلم السلطة معلمه في لبنان وعينه نائباً على منطقته وحتى نائب لرئيس المجلس، كل المحيطين به من اهل منطقته يحكون عن عدم مساعدته لاحد عندما كان في سعودي اوجيه والسؤال المهم كم كانت ثروته قبل الحكم وكم اصبحت بعد الحكم هذا ما نريد معرفته.

Exactly, so all what was published in Akhbar and you copied here is ta2 7anak. It proves nothing. Instead of Bassil take Joe to court, he should've helped him to go to Majles Doustouri and do the Min Ayna Laka Haza on all the politicians including himself.
The information presented is easy to convince people in the case of Bassil or Hadi Hobeich who had nothing and became rich, while it's not that easy in the case of Hariri & Co who were already rich before coming to power.
Fahameni kif?
 

eLad

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Exactly, so all what was published in Akhbar and you copied here is ta2 7anak. It proves nothing. Instead of Bassil take Joe to court, he should've helped him to go to Majles Doustouri and do the Min Ayna Laka Haza on all the politicians including himself.
The information presented is easy to convince people in the case of Bassil or Hadi Hobeich who had nothing and became rich, while it's not that easy in the case of Hariri & Co who were already rich before coming to power.
Fahameni kif?
w biyemro2 yeshtrilo bouza 3a tari2o?
 

leb-wi-noss

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she still owns barely 4% of nahar :)

bass 3endak shaeb bi 2ellak anno nahar is the voice of the christians looooooooool

شريكة بـ42 سهم من أصل 998 سهم في شركة النهار للخدمات الصحفية، فيما تبلغ حصة النائب مروان حمادة مثلاً هنا 100 سهم.

• رئيسة مجلس إدارة شركة «النهار ش.م.ل» حيث تبلغ مساهمتها خمسة ملايين و230361 مقابل عشرة ملايين و236600 لشركة الم
ال للاستثمار التي يرأس مجلس إدارتها رئيس الحكومة السابق سعد الحريري.
• مساهمة في دار النهار للنشر


العدد ٢٧٤٥

What's the point here in including Nayla Tweini? Where is the question mark in her wealth? Al Akhbar is trying to promote another scam book. :)
 

modesty

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Exactly, so all what was published in Akhbar and you copied here is ta2 7anak. It proves nothing. Instead of Bassil take Joe to court, he should've helped him to go to Majles Doustouri and do the Min Ayna Laka Haza on all the politicians including himself.
The information presented is easy to convince people in the case of Bassil or Hadi Hobeich who had nothing and became rich, while it's not that easy in the case of Hariri & Co who were already rich before coming to power.
Fahameni kif?​
لماذا تحور الكلام لكي تدافع عن المكاري فانا لا ادافع عن احد بالمقابل، كل الذي قلته هو ان ثروته لم تكن بهذا الكبر وهو مجرد موظف هذا هو فحو الحديث، اما التشديد فهو على السؤال النهائي وهو كم كانت ثروته وثروة غيره قبل ان يستلموا السلطة
 

leb-wi-noss

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لماذا تحور الكلام لكي تدافع عن المكاري فانا لا ادافع عن احد بالمقابل، كل الذي قلته هو ان ثروته لم تكن بهذا الكبر وهو مجرد موظف هذا هو فحو الحديث، اما التشديد فهو على السؤال النهائي وهو كم كانت ثروته وثروة غيره قبل ان يستلموا السلطة
I'm not defending him, I'm saying he was rich before coming back to Lebanon. He was an employee of Hariri but he was still rich before returning to Lebanon. And I said I agree with you, the question should be for everyone how much they had when they arrived and how much they have now.

Why you are edgy? :)
 

modesty

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لنكن منصفين وعادلين ولو لمرة، السنيورة ليس وحده الذي سرقنا مع انه هو من اكبرهم فاغلب المسؤولين الذين حكموا البلاد منذ اتفاق الطائف تناوبوا على خيانتنا وسرقتنا، نحن نعترض على فتح ملفات وتناسي ملفات اخرى لو كان الاعلام جاد ومستقل لفضح جميع الفاسدين، فهل يستطيع وهل يجرؤ وهو اغلبه مملوك من الاطراف السياسية وأغلبه يقبض من السفارات لقد طلبنا من احد الصحافيين المعروفين ان يبرز ميزانية صحيفته الحقيقية فأدار دينته الطرشى بعدما كان ينتقد غيره ليل نهار
 

modesty

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I'm not defending him, I'm saying he was rich before coming back to Lebanon. He was an employee of Hariri but he was still rich before returning to Lebanon. And I said I agree with you, the question should be for everyone how much they had when they arrived and how much they have now.

Why you are edgy? :)

لو كان غني لما ذهب الى السعودية للعمل كموظف، لم يكن غني مثل ما هو اليوم وصاحب سلطة، لم يكن يعرفه احد ولم يسمع به احد وهذا هو المهم المكاري ليس الوحيد بين المستغلين لوظائفهم ولكنه بالتأكيد واحد منهم
 

JB81

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The issue is not about a politician who have businesses... it is about connecting his businesses to corruption and public theft, mainly thru favoritsm contracts at very high rates, e.g. Hariri mafia Sukleen, solidere, contracts thru majless enma2 w e3mar, majless Janoub contracts.

Not because Bassil or Hbeish have private businesses, they are immediately thieves... one should look at their firms and if they have state's projects contracts; 2nd, had these projects been fairly awarded?

For instance, Hariri awarded one of his mafia to lighten Checca Tunnel. The contract was awarded by $5 million while it should have cost the Lebanese $ 150,000. This is corruption, this is public theft
 
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leb-wi-noss

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The issue is not about a politician who have businesses... it is about connecting his businesses to corruption and public theft, mainly thru favoritsm contracts at very high rates, e.g. Hariri mafia Sukleen, solidere, contracts thru majless enma2 w e3mar, majless Janoub contracts.

Not because Bassil or Hbeish have private businesses, they are immediately thieves... one should look at their firms and if they have state's projects contracts; 2nd, had these projects been fairly awarded?

For instance, Hariri awarded one of his mafia to lighten Checca Tunnel. The contract was awarded by $5 million while it should have cost the Lebanese $ 150,000. This is corruption, this is public theft

You forgot to give examples also of Clementine doing advertisement to Ministry of Energy, Ministry of Telecommunication, Sukleen, Maghaweer el Jeish,...
Or the news that talk about the high salaries of Bassil's friends oops advisors they get from the ministries. :)
 

JustLeb

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You forgot to give examples also of Clementine doing advertisement to Ministry of Energy, Ministry of Telecommunication, Sukleen, Maghaweer el Jeish,...
Or the news that talk about the high salaries of Bassil's friends oops advisors they get from the ministries. :)

You have the right to question, but to accuse you need to prove that those deals were made illegally, I mean not following the right administrative procedures.
Did any other agency provide a better price and was rejected ? Did anyone complain about it ?

Just asking...

The difference between Hariri/Sanioura and Bassil, is that Hariri came to fix the economy but the economy got worse, much worse...
Do you remember when in late 1998 he made an initiative and went visiting all the political and religious power to seek support for his NEW proposal ? At the time everyone rejected him (including Batrak Sfeir) because no one trusted he is able to fix what he already broke.

While asking Bassil men ayna laka haza is legitimate and Bassil MUST be transparent in order to preserve his credibility.
Sanioura in my opinion is beyond salvation...

My words won't appeal to many, however in my opinion if Bassil didn't make the move to show people that all these are lies (probably he did, I am not following the news) then he can't keep accusing others of stealing...
 
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SeaAb

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Joe Maalouf's episode primarily relied on information from 'Ibra2 l musta7eel' and articles by Ghassan Saoud & Roula Ibrahim...w 3a shway, some forumers want to label Joe as an idol for fighting corruption... #2oomBa2a
 

leb-wi-noss

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You have the right to question, but to accuse you need to prove that those deals were made illegally, I mean not following the right administrative procedures.
Did any other agency provide a better price and was rejected ?
Just asking...

I was asking adding to JB's questions. He called Hariri mafia, I didn't accuse them of any wrong doing. :)

But isn't it weird that she got the advertisement in the ministries that Aounis are holding?
 

JustLeb

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I was asking adding to JB's questions. He called Hariri mafia, I didn't accuse them of any wrong doing. :)

But isn't it weird that she got the advertisement in the ministries that Aounis are holding?

Ask Joe MAALOUF to investigate :)
 

JB81

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You forgot to give examples also of Clementine doing advertisement to Ministry of Energy, Ministry of Telecommunication, Sukleen, Maghaweer el Jeish,...
Or the news that talk about the high salaries of Bassil's friends oops advisors they get from the ministries. :)

I'm not accusing nor making a politician innocent.

If Maalouf is sincere about fighting corruption, yetfadal go to the Finance Ministry where everything should be recorded, open up files from Sukleen to Clementine, see who was awarded and how fair was the deal...

Other than this, the talks you hear are just neswen feren meant to blind the public from the real theives. This is corruption itself
 
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JeanH

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it amazes me how this didnt get the media attention that gebran bassil got
 
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