FPM and Bassil corruption Files - Gathering data and info

Do you believe Bassil is corrupt

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 51.3%
  • No

    Votes: 12 30.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 7 17.9%

  • Total voters
    39
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  • The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    A point on wikileaks(bel nizam lol):
    A wikileaks cable is not necessarily true nor false it is the report of a diplomate for archiving/reporting purposes.
    We assume they are true because they are hidden and internal which is fair. Sometimes the diplomat gets lied to, is involved in illicit business or just misread a situation ...not talking about this one but in general.
    Sometimes of course. But what makes this cable right is Talib foreseeing Bassil's rise to the top despite being hated inside the party. Being close to Aoun and Joumblatt, he also has inside information that points to Bassil sabotaging the talks between PMA and WJ. The question should be asking is why? Did someone give him an order or was it self-serving?
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    Sometimes of course. But what makes this cable right is Talib foreseeing Bassil's rise to the top despite being hated inside the party. Being close to Aoun and Joumblatt, he also has inside information that points to Bassil sabotaging the talks between PMA and WJ. The question should be asking is why? Did someone give him an order or was it self-serving?
    HA
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    From that same cable

    "Bassil came to true prominence as the father of the FPM's February 2006 "Memorandum of Understanding" with Hizballah. He remains the FPM's principal conduit to Hizballah. Should Aoun obtain a larger share of cabinet seats, Tawil and Zakka suggested, Bassil would be made a minister with one of the powerful portfolios -- a prospect that elicited cringes from our interlocutors. "
     
    Dr. Eggnog

    Dr. Eggnog

    Nuclear Egg Expert
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    Regarding Badri Daher, off to the courts with him. If he's guilty, sentence the man and investigate his collaborators, including those on the political level. If he's innocent, clear him publically and let him point the courts towards those who aren't.

    Khalasna ba2a 2araf.
     
    leb-wi-noss

    leb-wi-noss

    Legendary Member
    Did you notice guys that the Bassilis are not even interested to listen to any other news than Tayyar.org & OTV? You shove it in their faces with documentations and proves and they insist that everybody is lying and he is a victim.

    There is one simple observation Bassili are avoiding answering. How come Bassil and his team spent all this amount of money on the power production ships that he fought against in the beginning and suddenly it switched to a necessity that we can't make it without. While yesterday Egypt inaugurated 3 power plants that were built in 3 years, with a triple power that what Lebanon needs. He's been controlling this ministry for the last 15 years. How can you Bassilis still defend him that he is not corrupt, or at least not a failure.
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    Regarding Badri Daher, off to the courts with him. If he's guilty, sentence the man and investigate his collaborators, including those on the political level. If he's innocent, clear him publically and let him point the courts towards those who aren't.

    Khalasna ba2a 2araf.
    Yalla let Bassil remove his cover off Badre’s ass then
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    Did you notice guys that the Bassilis are not even interested to listen to any other news than Tayyar.org & OTV? You shove it in their faces with documentations and proves and they insist that everybody is lying and he is a victim.

    There is one simple observation Bassili are avoiding answering. How come Bassil and his team spent all this amount of money on the power production ships that he fought against in the beginning and suddenly it switched to a necessity that we can't make it without. While yesterday Egypt inaugurated 3 power plants that were built in 3 years, with a triple power that what Lebanon needs. He's been controlling this ministry for the last 15 years. How can you Bassilis still defend him that he is not corrupt, or at least not a failure.
    Dude deep down they know the truth behind their party and its boss
    They don’t care

    Hence why FPM is a very dangerous party
    Because its corruption is also at the base level
    It’s a cult built based on nothing but pure hatred and clientelism

    Geagea was On MTV once with Marcel Ghanem
    He mentioned a story about a certain LFer cardholder who was raided by the ISF on drug dealing related charges, he resisted the arrest and shot at the darak.
    He called Geagea for wasta, they didn’t help
    Bassil got him out of jail in a week in return he let go of his LF membership.

    This story is an undisputed fact and I personally have info about this incident.

    I am absolutely sure that every FPMers knows similar stories and wasayet.
     
    leb-wi-noss

    leb-wi-noss

    Legendary Member
    Regarding Badri Daher, off to the courts with him. If he's guilty, sentence the man and investigate his collaborators, including those on the political level. If he's innocent, clear him publically and let him point the courts towards those who aren't.

    Khalasna ba2a 2araf.
    Which courts? Ghada Aoun or Peter Germenos? There are evidence by text messages, voice messages and recorded calls with people who were trapped to give information about his involvement. It is documented that he is in touch with a guy wanted by the government and hiding. This guy is also the son of a Aouni official.
    Badri Daher's income with his wife is around $60000 and that is kind of legal. Do you think the guy who appointed him there is not sharing with him the millions he is getting illegally?
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    Did you notice guys that the Bassilis are not even interested to listen to any other news than Tayyar.org & OTV? You shove it in their faces with documentations and proves and they insist that everybody is lying and he is a victim.

    There is one simple observation Bassili are avoiding answering. How come Bassil and his team spent all this amount of money on the power production ships that he fought against in the beginning and suddenly it switched to a necessity that we can't make it without. While yesterday Egypt inaugurated 3 power plants that were built in 3 years, with a triple power that what Lebanon needs. He's been controlling this ministry for the last 15 years. How can you Bassilis still defend him that he is not corrupt, or at least not a failure.
    If Bassil burned their homes, they would thank him for the warmth.
     
    Dr. Eggnog

    Dr. Eggnog

    Nuclear Egg Expert
    Orange Room Supporter
    Which courts? Ghada Aoun or Peter Germenos? There are evidence by text messages, voice messages and recorded calls with people who were trapped to give information about his involvement. It is documented that he is in touch with a guy wanted by the government and hiding. This guy is also the son of a Aouni official.
    Badri Daher's income with his wife is around $60000 and that is kind of legal. Do you think the guy who appointed him there is not sharing with him the millions he is getting illegally?
    An open court. How difficult would that be to set up?
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

    Paragon of Bacon
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    It's actually strategical
    The easiest to expose should be FPM
    Expose them and they'll spill the beans on all the rest ;)

    It works
    am sure jumblat is shitting his pants right now
     
    Leb_Rebel

    Leb_Rebel

    Legendary Member
    Orange Room Supporter
    Dude deep down they know the truth behind their party and its boss
    They don’t care

    Hence why FPM is a very dangerous party
    Because its corruption is also at the base level
    It’s a cult built based on nothing but pure hatred and clientelism

    Geagea was On MTV once with Marcel Ghanem
    He mentioned a story about a certain LFer cardholder who was raided by the ISF on drug dealing related charges, he resisted the arrest and shot at the darak.
    He called Geagea for wasta, they didn’t help
    Bassil got him out of jail in a week in return he let go of his LF membership.

    This story is an undisputed fact and I personally have info about this incident.

    I am absolutely sure that every FPMers knows similar stories and wasayet.
    khaffif habal w ta3ate. You might be less excited.

    No one is defending Badri Daher.

    FPM is by far the less dangerous of the snakes bleeding the country since Taef: Berri, Sanioura, Hariri, Joumblatt...

    Bassil might have joined the game but everything I saw in the 3 hour fassed show of newtv points to them being way behind the others in any suspicions:
    - Between renting offices from their families
    - Majless el jnnoub/mouhajarrin/enme2
    - Finance ministers
    - No budget since 1993
    - The financial policy and directions have been set by non-other than Rafic hariri
    - Telecom with abdel-menhem Youssef.

    I am not minimising but its all relative you need to be really stupid to think that whatever shady deals Bassil has done can even begin to compare with those.
     
    Aoune32!

    Aoune32!

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    am sure jumblat is shitting his pants right now
    أعرب رئيس "الحزب التقدمي الإشتراكي" النائب السابق وليد جنبلاط عن أمله بـ"أن يرى المتظاهرين في لبنان ينجحون"، مؤكداً "إنني لستُ ملاكًا، بل في نهاية حياتي السياسية، ويجب أن أقدّم رسالة أمل للجيل الجديد"، موضحاً أن "خلال عمله في مجال السياسة منذ 40 عامًا، هذه هي المرة الأولى في تاريخ لبنان التي تحدث فيها مثل هكذا ثورة بعيداً عن الطائفية، وتمتدّ من شمال لبنان إلى جنوبه".

    وفي حديث لشبكة "ABC" الأستراليّة، أبدى جنبلاط عن "تفاؤله وأمله بالحركة المناهضة للطائفية" ورأى أنّ "هذا الأمر سيستغرق وقتًا طويلاً"، مشيراً إلى "إنني على وشك الانهيار الاقتصادي ونحتاج إلى شخصيات تكنوقراطية، كفوءة ونزيهة، لتستلم حقائب وزارية في وزارات رئيسية مثل المالية والاقتصاد وغيرهما".

    وشجّع "الجيل الجديد من القيادة السياسية على الخروج من الأزمة السياسية"، مشيراً إلى ان "الأمر متروك للطبقة الجديدة التي ستحكم لبنان، لحكومة الشعب الجديدة كي تطبّق سياسة بعيدة عن النيوليبرالية التي دمّرتنا" ورأى أنّ "شريحة كبيرة من اللبنانيين يدعمون الحزب، ولكنّ هذا الدعم ضمن قاعدته يجب ألا يخوله بأن يتجاهل مطالب المتظاهرين أو أن يصبح ضدّهم، لافتًا إلى أنّ "الثورة تشمل جميع الطوائف".

    ورأى أن "كانت هناك فرصة لعودة رئيس حكومة تصريف الاعمال سعد الحريري، فلا بدّ من التغيير في الأجندة أو جدول الأعمال"، معتبراً أنه "يجب تغيير سياسة النيوليبرالية التي دمّرت البلاد"، آملاً بأن يطبّق الحريري مطالب الثورة"، مؤكداً "إنني مذنب أيضًا بالأزمة في لبنان، بدأت عملي السياسي تزامنًا مع بداية الحرب اللبنانية، وكان علي أن أدافع عن الشعب ولكن في نهاية مسيرتي السياسية أقول إن هناك حاجة إلى التغيير".
     
    Aoune32!

    Aoune32!

    Well-Known Member
    khaffif habal w ta3ate. You might be less excited.

    No one is defending Badri Daher.

    FPM is by far the less dangerous of the snakes bleeding the country since Taef: Berri, Sanioura, Hariri, Joumblatt...

    Bassil might have joined the game but everything I saw in the 3 hour fassed show of newtv points to them being way behind the others in any suspicions:
    - Between renting offices from their families
    - Majless el jnnoub/mouhajarrin/enme2
    - Finance ministers
    - No budget since 1993
    - The financial policy and directions have been set by non-other than Rafic hariri
    - Telecom with abdel-menhem Youssef.

    I am not minimising but its all relative you need to be really stupid to think that whatever shady deals Bassil has done can even begin to compare with those.
    if this is true about Badri daher lakeina kel 7ada FPM had as minister and or director needs to be questioned. again i ask where
    is the central inspection?
     
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