FPM New Headquarters - A scandal?

Do you consider the FPM new headquarter location acceptable ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • No

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • Total voters
    23
Resign

Resign

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ان موضوع مقر التيار ليس بموضوع جديد... منذ سنتين الى الوراء ومشروع بناء مقر للتيار الوطني الحر في محيط نهر الكلب يتم تداوله.. وقد عمل المعنيون على استحصال الرخص القانونية من اجل بناء المقر وذلك في ارض بور قريبة من
O ciel
ان هذه الارض هي ارض بور وغير مصنفة تراثية من قبل وزارة الثقافة... كما ان المقر لا يمس لا من قريب ولا من بعيد باثار نهر الكلب التاريخية... ولكن هذا ما يحاول اشقائنا في القوات تصويره وتضخيمه

على نحو شخصي اني اشعر بالحزن دائما عندما يتم استعمال اراضي وبناء مباني... ويغص في قلبي مثلا ان ارى السفارة الاميركية تأكل هكتارات من سفح الجبل في عوكر... ويتحول الخضار الي مباني اسمنتية خالية من الحياة والجمال

ان بناء مقر التيار في هذه الارض البور امر طبيعي ودعونا لا نجعل من هذه القضية قضية مستعصية ونعطيها اكبر من حجمها من اجل غايات سياسية ومن باب الخصام السياسي
صديقتي انتي اخديتيا سياسية
نحن نطالب بتطبيق القانون فقط لا غير
مطلوب تقويم اثر بيئي و اثري شفافين فوراً
 
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  • HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    مبنى جميل يُحاكي الطبيعة ويتفاعل معها بإنسيابية رائعة، قد يُحلق بها في الفضاء لشدة جمالها إذا ساعدته الظروف
    المناخية والروحية🤔😊
    وبالرغم من هذا الإبداع الهندسي المعماري.تجمعت بالأمس حول سياجه حفنة من طرشات الأحزاب اللبنانية من كتائب وقوات ومستقبل وما يُسمى بمجتمع مدني وبيئي، يعترضون على الإستمرار بالأعمال فيه لأسباب واهية،في حين أننا لم نراهم يوماً يعترضون على سارقي بيروت وناهبي الأملاك البحرية والنهرية وليس آخرهم هذا المبنى القبيح العائد لصهر نبيه بري وسام عاشور.
    #الصورة_تتكلم🤔🤔

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    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    تتداول ناشطة من القوات.معلومات مسربة من داخل التيار الوطني عن تقديم إيران عشرات ملايين الدولارات لبناء مركز التيار الوطني الجديد فوق صخور نهر الكلب..يهم Awad Development أن توضح التالي دعماً لما ذكرته الناشطة:

    .. إن الرقم الحقيقي هو عشرات ملايين الدولارات و تلات مية و سبعين سنت.
    ..إشترط الإيرانيون إنشاء موانئ فوق الصخور لغواصات الحرس الثوري.و بناء تمثال الملك الفارسي قوروش شاهنشاه. في ساحة القليعات .مما أثار حفيظة النائب روجيه عازار و جعله يرمي طابة تنيس على طاولة الإجتماع.
    ..أصر الإيرانيون على حفر نفق طوله ٢٥ كلم يصل مركز التيار مباشرة من خلال خط مستقيم بفرن إم بشير على مدخل فاريا.من أجل التمون بفطائر القورما .على أن تعطى أم بشير باسوورد النفق بعد الإلتزام بإستعمال القورما الحلال.

    Awad Development
    قسم التسويق
     
    HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid

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    If LF twitter says something wrong about a certain issue, or if they're acting as hypocrites to an issue, that doesn't mean that you shall stick to their error and overlook the reality of the matter which each and every Aounist in here just avoided. Mr @Joe tayyar is a Fake News peddler that copies and pastes pictures from Jay Lahoud. He is a propagandist with no skepticism or rationality and just brings Twitter wars to this forum. And many other Aounists in here are an embarrassment to Lebanon as they are to this Forum..

    What I understood after careful examination is that the Tayyar are impacting a natural important landmark around a historic site. And that makes me furious.
    Yeah, I agree it would be ill-advised to jump to conclusions based on LF Twitter accounts and rumor peddlers. Good thing I didn't do that and was commenting on a statement made to a credible news outlet that itself thought the statement accurate enough to maintain in its report. I appreciate and respect your assessment based on what you've analyzed, and agree it would be infuriating if it is indeed correct that there are meaningful impacts to historical and cultural sites. For the moment, I'll reserve judgment on the substance of this debate because in my analysis it seems like a lot of intentional obfuscation and very little facts.

    As an aside, I've little interest in what Tayyar Twitter says or beef with other forum members, I was responding to a specific statement that--at least in part--undermines the foundational basis of the accusations and doesn't seem to be disputed yet. Feel free to take anything else up in response to them. Or better yet, not at all. This space would be a lot better if the discussion wasn't just 98% reiteration of personal grudges.
     
    cedarheart

    cedarheart

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    I'd be more interested in knowing how FPM is financing this project?
    Who is paying for it? Where is the money coming from?
    Donations? from whom, in return for what? etc
    Of course, there are the "regular" members who donate, but these are relatively small contributions and not even enough to finance the party's operations.
    Are the same people who finance GB's trip to Davos financing this project? in return for what?

    All Lebanese political parties preach democracy and are strongly in favor of it yet none of them practices democracy internally
    All Lebanese political parties want transparency and end of corruption in the State yet none of them practices transparency and financial accountability
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    I'd be more interested in knowing how FPM is financing this project?
    Who is paying for it? Where is the money coming from?
    Donations? from whom, in return for what? etc
    Of course, there are the "regular" members who donate, but these are relatively small contributions and not even enough to finance the party's operations.
    Are the same people who finance GB's trip to Davos financing this project? in return for what?

    All Lebanese political parties preach democracy and are strongly in favor of it yet none of them practices democracy internally
    All Lebanese political parties want transparency and end of corruption in the State yet none of them practices transparency and financial accountability
    Read my username and you'll have the answer 🙂
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    I'd be more interested in knowing how FPM is financing this project?
    Who is paying for it? Where is the money coming from?
    Donations? from whom, in return for what? etc
    Of course, there are the "regular" members who donate, but these are relatively small contributions and not even enough to finance the party's operations.
    Are the same people who finance GB's trip to Davos financing this project? in return for what?

    All Lebanese political parties preach democracy and are strongly in favor of it yet none of them practices democracy internally
    All Lebanese political parties want transparency and end of corruption in the State yet none of them practices transparency and financial accountability
     
    𓍝𓂀𓄃𓇼

    𓍝𓂀𓄃𓇼

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    مصاري التيار من أفريقيا و من إستغلال الأفارقة و عمليات النصب و بيع الألماز المهرب. موسخين اسم لبنان وين ما يروحو. و مع كل هل شي أغنى منقطة عندن ما فيها أرز الباروك و حلا الشوف و قصور عاليه يلي كل وزرة بلدان الخليج معمرين فيها.
     
    Orangina

    Orangina

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    مصاري التيار من أفريقيا و من إستغلال الأفارقة و عمليات النصب و بيع الألماز المهرب. موسخين اسم لبنان وين ما يروحو. و مع كل هل شي أغنى منقطة عندن ما فيها أرز الباروك و حلا الشوف و قصور عاليه يلي كل وزرة بلدان الخليج معمرين فيها.
    do you have any proof?

    or those r just pure hallucinations?
     
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    𓍝𓂀𓄃𓇼

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    do you have any proof?

    or those r just pure hallucinations?
    How are they making money in Africa? Through honest trade and helping Blacks? I've yet to see one black African say that about them.
     
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    𓍝𓂀𓄃𓇼

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    no please elaborate...interesting topic you opened here

    and excuse my english i am actually french educated

    My english is like Batata
    Your Aounist friends on here reported 2 of my posts which were removed for being off-topic. I'm sorry, but I cannot comply.
    Cela me dépasse.
     
    cedarheart

    cedarheart

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    LOL!!!! very funny!
    And is FPM capable of withdrawing $ from that account, or someone goes every week to the branch to get 100$ out ? :p

    So if someone with deep pockets goes to FPM, put his name on the list of members, make a significant donation and then one day become an MP, a Minister or get a lucrative contract from the State, would that still qualify as a donation or bribery?

    I dare FPM to present a law forcing all political parties to make their finances public and to get audited by independent auditors; just like any publicly-traded company

    FPMers, if you want a clean and democratic country, then start by cleaning up your own party
     
    Resign

    Resign

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    LOL!!!! very funny!
    And is FPM capable of withdrawing $ from that account, or someone goes every week to the branch to get 100$ out ? :p

    So if someone with deep pockets goes to FPM, put his name on the list of members, make a significant donation and then one day become an MP, a Minister or get a lucrative contract from the State, would that still qualify as a donation or bribery?

    I dare FPM to present a law forcing all political parties to make their finances public and to get audited by independent auditors; just like any publicly-traded company

    FPMers, if you want a clean and democratic country, then start by cleaning up your own party
    The tweet was a joke
    like we're supposed to take them for their word lol

    Documents need to be shown in full details
    else i call this money laundering.
     
    Joe tayyar

    Joe tayyar

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    مصاري التيار من أفريقيا و من إستغلال الأفارقة و عمليات النصب و بيع الألماز المهرب. موسخين اسم لبنان وين ما يروحو. و مع كل هل شي أغنى منقطة عندن ما فيها أرز الباروك و حلا الشوف و قصور عاليه يلي كل وزرة بلدان الخليج معمرين فيها.
    Says the one who is blaming other people of propaganda! W kamen khallik mqawqa3 in your shouf and jabal w ma7ada khasso where FPM got their money to build their base. Kil wa7ad yshouf shifhlo!
     
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