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FPM's Minister of Defense refusing to sign the army decrees?

Bou Saab action

  • Is acting on behalf of Bassil

    Votes: 8 53.3%
  • Bassil has nothing to do with it

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Is a scandal and public betrayal

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Is normal

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • Is due to HA pressure agenda to weaken the army

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Is a treason

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • Bou Saab should resign immediately

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • Bassil should resign immediately

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • President Aoun should resign immediately

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Commander Joseph Aoun should resign immediately

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • It is Joseph Aoun Mistake

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • It is FMP Mistake

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • It is the President Mistake being not only the Constitutional head of army but also he is coming the

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Joseph Aoun should submits to Bassil and Bou Saab and agree to change intelligence director

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • Joseph Aoun should not submit to Bassil and Bou Saab

    Votes: 4 26.7%

  • Total voters
    15
Muki

Muki

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Malgré your short ghaybtak, shta2nelak ViVi mon ami.:) I hope you remember that I demonstrated more than @Muki for your quick return by shouting: Je suis ViVi.

el 7asslo, I think the army and its leader are under indirect attack by Iran and Israel. Both would love to see Lebanon destabilized. Do you agree?
I paid for Jesus to bring back LVV.
Jesus stajab amen
 
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  • Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Malgré your short ghaybtak, shta2nelak ViVi mon ami.:) I hope you remember that I demonstrated more than @Muki for your quick return by shouting: Je suis ViVi.

    el 7asslo, I think the army and its leader are under indirect attack by Iran and Israel. Both would love to see Lebanon destabilized. Do you agree?
    Yes it is the only institution balancing HA plus it is supported by Lebanese people
    I don’t know what Saab is doing
    Except HA filthy game or an illusion of power
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Vote 50/50
    But while army supporter want Bassil and Saab resignation
    Most of FPM want Commander Joseph Aoun to submit not his resignation
    The country can survive without Saab and Bassil
    He can’t survive without Joseph Aoun and the Crusader supported army
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Army is your last hope to save this country from terrorists Iran
    I hope All Arab countries Egypt and gulf step in and support your army
    We don’t want Christians militia
    All enrol in the army
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Saab my biggest disappointment
    I don’t know how I trusted this guy in the past
    I was habili
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    Minister of defense is trying to force change in the structure of command in the army
    He wants power over army leadership
    That’s dangerous imagine berry controlling defense
    Commander in Chief should always assume operational control over the army
    You are criticizing the army
    First you FPM said everything great lies no problem with army
    I was right , there was a problem
    Congratulations you lost your biggest ally the Commander in Chief of the army who was giving the President a leverage of power over HA and the country
    Imagine this power with support of international community
    You lost Joseph Aoun he doesn’t need you
    You need him
    Anyway you will lose this battle all Lebanese with their army
    Saab doesn’t want to sign , no problem Crusader USA is arming the army without any role for Minister of defense

    bro

    there is a 20 years old law that was enacted
    the army promised to get the by laws enacted

    they should do it,period
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    bro

    there is a 20 years old law that was enacted
    the army promised to get the by laws enacted

    they should do it,period
    The army have no problem
    Problem Minister of defense want to change the structure of army
    The decree of defense give power on interpretation to government
    Let Minister of defense go to Government and parliament
    By law minister propose change on commander in Chief proposal
    Ok fact 1 bro
    Fact 2 they disagree
    Great ?? let Government decide
    Don’t hold normal soldier hostage
    Soldier are hampered in their daily duties by their minister
    Let Minister of defense take the subject to council of ministers
    You can lose Roukouz no problem
    1/29
    You lost army
    Not you
    FPM
    President lost army and its respect
    See what Soldier and officers are talking
    FPM came from army
    You lose army
    You see effect next elections
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    The army have no problem
    Problem Minister of defense want to change the structure of army
    The decree of defense give power on interpretation to government
    Let Minister of defense go to Government and parliament
    By law minister propose change on commander in Chief proposal
    Ok fact 1 bro
    Fact 2 they disagree
    Great ?? let Government decide
    Don’t hold normal soldier hostage
    Soldier are hampered in their daily duties by their minister
    Let Minister of defense take the subject to council of ministers
    You can lose Roukouz no problem
    1/29
    You lost army
    Not you
    FPM
    President lost army and its respect
    See what Soldier and officers are talking
    FPM came from army
    You lose army
    You see effect next elections
    Why the army is not enacting 20 years old laws?

    The Minister of Defense is correcting twisted procedures. He should be thanked for it
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    The army have no problem
    Problem Minister of defense want to change the structure of army
    The decree of defense give power on interpretation to government
    Let Minister of defense go to Government and parliament
    By law minister propose change on commander in Chief proposal
    Ok fact 1 bro
    Fact 2 they disagree
    Great ?? let Government decide
    Don’t hold normal soldier hostage
    Soldier are hampered in their daily duties by their minister
    Let Minister of defense take the subject to council of ministers
    You can lose Roukouz no problem
    1/29
    You lost army
    Not you
    FPM
    President lost army and its respect
    See what Soldier and officers are talking
    FPM came from army
    You lose army
    You see effect next elections
    you asked why he issnt signing some documents
    i replied you

    the rest of your garbage spewing not interested in discussing

    army has legal obligation to enact those laws
    and yes army is so overbloated , they need to reduce costs and manpower,period
    an army of 80K what for ?
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    Why the army is not enacting 20 years old laws?

    The Minister of Defense is correcting twisted procedures. He should be thanked for it

    cause they are ...not to any other words
    these reforms were enacted and the leadership kept dodging it

    today, we cant dodge no more
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    cause they are ...not to any other words
    these reforms were enacted and the leadership kept dodging it

    today, we cant dodge no more
    So @LVV... why are you misleading information against the Minister of Defense and the army?

    You think it is a light joke to create division among the Lebanese Army?

    Need explanations
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Why the army is not enacting 20 years old laws?

    The Minister of Defense is correcting twisted procedures. He should be thanked for it
    you asked why he issnt signing some documents
    i replied you

    the rest of your garbage spewing not interested in discussing

    army has legal obligation to enact those laws
    and yes army is so overbloated , they need to reduce costs and manpower,period
    an army of 80K what for ?
    cause they are ...not to any other words
    these reforms were enacted and the leadership kept dodging it

    today, we cant dodge no more
    So @LVV... why are you misleading information against the Minister of Defense and the army?

    You think it is a light joke to create division among the Lebanese Army?

    Need explanations
    First Hanna Commander in Chief and army should agree on the type of decrees
    They don’t agree on their content
    Legally that is their right and for your information Hanna Commander in Chief is much more important than Minister of defense or foreign affairs
    He has operational control of the army
    - second an army of 80 k for what
    First army is underfunded specially in weapon
    Sure they are certain abuse in officers but don’t go after normal soldiers
    Army is what is holding this country together from ersal to south to fight against terrorists to Baalbek
    We can’t make a football match without the army
    Army is not the problem
    HA allegiances to Iran is the problem
    - finally if the Commander in Chief and army disagree with ministers of defense , who should decide
    The council of ministers
    Garbage bro is the one fighting the army
    JB81 you are having a double language
    You say first there is no problem between FPM and army then you see your ignorance or lie there is a problem
    Second you want the army to sign the decree
    I m not concerned go talk with military hero Joseph Aoun
     
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    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    cause they are ...not to any other words
    these reforms were enacted and the leadership kept dodging it

    today, we cant dodge no more
    If there is disagreement on technical issues go to council of ministers
    He decide the policy of the nation no
    Don’t attack the army
    Man you are finished if you fight with the army
    Let bou Saab and Joseph Aoun go to the council of ministers who will decide by deliberation or votes
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Army last year reduced its budget by 500 million dollars
    There is shortage of foods and maintenance of its weapons
    A soldier is eating 3,500 ll per day down from 5,500 ll
    I ask you who eat 3,500 ll per day
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    Army last year reduced its budget by 500 million dollars
    There is shortage of foods and maintenance of its weapons
    A soldier is eating 3,500 ll per day down from 5,500 ll
    I ask you who eat 3,500 ll per day
    what are these 20 year old decrees??
     
    HannaTheCrusader

    HannaTheCrusader

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    If there is disagreement on technical issues go to council of ministers
    He decide the policy of the nation no
    Don’t attack the army
    Man you are finished if you fight with the army
    Let bou Saab and Joseph Aoun go to the council of ministers who will decide by deliberation or votes

    bla bla bla

    all the minsiter did was to ask the army command to put forward the by laws and did not dictate to them what to put


    they have refused to do such and wants to ignore the law all together

    WONT WORK ...

    all we ask, hey put forward your vision

    NO ONE IS OVERSTEPPING THE ARMY
    the army is just refusing to follow the law

    its clear why the army refuses to set it own by laws..corruption
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    bla bla bla

    all the minsiter did was to ask the army command to put forward the by laws and did not dictate to them what to put


    they have refused to do such and wants to ignore the law all together

    WONT WORK ...

    all we ask, hey put forward your vision

    NO ONE IS OVERSTEPPING THE ARMY
    the army is just refusing to follow the law

    its clear why the army refuses to set it own by laws..corruption
    So now the army is corrupted
    Joseph Aoun who cleaned corruption in military schools is covering corruption
    Frankly man you completely lost it
    Army decree are proposed by commander in Chief
    That the law
    You disagree
    Go to council of ministers arbitration
    Other than that people will hold you accountable in next elections
     
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