You are disappointing me. Are you now supporting colonialism? And do you have an idea about the French colonization of Algeria? Or colonization by Christians is OK?
And I guess Native Americans too should be grateful for European colonization?
So I guess you would welcome colonization by a more advanced alien civilization even if they exploit humans.
I agree there is a balance that should be struck when talking about idealism and being pragmatic, speaking broadly.It all goes down to Idealism vs. Realism. Sometimes, practicing realism may protect Idealism from potential threats. Idealism can be exploit it in order to gain power than turn against it when enough power is in hand.
This is how some French feels about the growing Muslim population. They think their secular humanistic ideals are under threat. Are their fears founded or not; and how much it is exaggerating; if yes, what's the proper way to deal with it. This should be the focus of the discussion. Idealism and practical realism, pragmatism can work together to protect one another.
Attention whore. As if she went without knowing of such a protocol. Why go in the first place.
So Marine Lepen got exactly what she wanted from her visit to Lebanon: more media attention.
Let's examine the mufti visit:
- Had she met him without a veil it would have been a win for her
- Not meeting him because of the veil is a win for her
- The meeting itself outside of the context of the veil show was pointless. She is not exactly trying to soften her image to go after voters with more moderate views on the subject, the latter already gave up on her.
Now regarding the Lebanese and French Lebanese interests, I am not fully versed on the subject but I tend to think that the EU membership and the dual citizenship have been beneficial.
I agree there is a balance that should be struck when talking about idealism and being pragmatic, speaking broadly.
But its obvious the muslim population growth fears etc. are vastly inflated. Its the same story it was with various immigrant populations. The world is a complex place, and some people prefer to keep us fighting over identity issues and tiny-impact topics, rather than take the fight to where it really is, such as political representation, equality and an economy that serves the people. We as humans are not programed to tackle complex things, so politicians and financial elites play us for the monkeys we are. Not that they necessarily coordinate it, but they know the rules of the game better than we do. Still, there are places like Lebanon, that despite its occasional conflicts and identity issues, has been a refugee for a multi-colored people since over a thousand years. Not that we know the game any better, it is complicated after all.
I would disagree with radical approaches. I distrust both extremes, because they feed off each other and erase those who stand in between. I don't buy in to their baskets just because I like some of their fruits. I believe in creating better baskets, that maintain human rights at home and abroad. Besides, humanity is all connected whether we like it or not, in both positive and negative ways. If we don't find a way to peacefully get along then climate change will do us a favor, I think.Can’t agree more other than I doubt using the same approach repetitively will lead different results.
Digging a tunnel through a mountain in order to connect two opposite civilizations need the use of explosives just like removing cancerous growth from a human body needs surgery.
Radical approaches from Trump and Le Pen are long overdue and the only game in town after decades of confusion…
I say, let the chips fall where they may…
Radical approaches are desperate approaches when we are faced with life or death situations.I would disagree with radical approaches. I distrust both extremes, because they feed off each other and erase those who stand in between. I don't buy in to their baskets just because I like some of their fruits. I believe in creating better baskets, that maintain human rights at home and abroad. Besides, humanity is all connected whether we like it or not, in both positive and negative ways. If we don't find a way to peacefully get along then climate change will do us a favor, I think.
In the same way the Lebanese Americans hope that they will not be subject to the travel bans, the Lebanese French hope they will also be the exception.
That said, some do consider it a fair price to pay.
I came to notice that the Niemoller quote below falls completely flat on the mainstream Lebanese culture.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
This is what fascinates me about the trump / le pen supporters. They have likely not lived through the Pasqua days where you had to register every time you had to leave France because you were Lebanese. In the US, if your birthplace is Lebanon, you have to go to secondary immigration checking, even if you hold a different passport (not American). Wake up people. There are constitutions on both France and the US that does not allow these countries to discriminate based on religion. They will do it based on nationality / country of birth. Guess where Lebanon will fall when push comes to shove!
And Lebanese are by no means the only ones behaving like this. My mother in law keeps saying she opposes dual nationality when all her grandchildren are dual nationals (some even triple when you count the Lebanese nationality)
you were colonized in Lebanon.
you experienced 500 years of the ottoman empire.
you experienced couple of decades of french colonization.
and then, you experienced your independence.
can you point out in which period you were most respected as a human being and which of these periods had the most promise for your future?
when you do that i will answer your question.
People should stop saying random thingsLebanon got lucky for demographic reasons.
Not the same thing in Algeria...
Lebanon got lucky for demographic reasons.
Not the same thing in Algeria...