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Gavin Ford's murder [OPEN DISCUSSION]

Ice Tea

Ice Tea

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Lebanon changed the same as it would change if 1.5 million Lebanese were added between 2011 and 2018.

Again, this myth that crime is worse than before is just that, a myth. Can anyone propagating this claim back it up with evidence? Someone already posted data showing murder was down in 2016 compared to 2008.

You are just hearing more about crime now because our leaders and all other sects’ leaders use them to scare you and distract you from the fact that our country is a corrupt dump. Bas blame poor Ahmad selling gum for $3 a day.

Murder and rape weren’t always national news. It still happened all the time. It’s just the media is silent when there’s no juicy story to sell with it. If Syrians aren’t involved we rarely hear it.
If 1.5 million 'lebanese' MUSLIMS were added, key word Muslims.

If 1.5 Christians were added the country would change, but for better.
 
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  • !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    When our economy gets a little stronger we should let in a few Christians in my opinion. The 150,000 Muslims who the Syrians and Hariri gave citizenship will never be revoked bro. We might as well give a few to qualified Christians but only when the economy gets better.
    La2 we want all foreigners out of our land. Those given citizenships most of them do not even live here i.e Syria just come back for voting. Their citizenships should be revoked. Look at the elections there was like 400K between muslims and christians.
     
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    Saj

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    La2 we want all foreigners out of our land. Those given citizenships most of them do not even live here i.e Syria just come back for voting. Their citizenships should be revoked. Look at the elections there was like 400K between muslims and christians.
    Tayyar should work on this issue but it’s gonna be hard. The Shia duo do not want to piss off Syria while the FM and LF will never let us strip away 150,000 Sunnis.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    Tayyar should work on this issue but it’s gonna be hard. The Shia duo do not want to piss off Syria while the FM and LF will never let us strip away 150,000 Sunnis.
    First off all syrians and foreigners that do not have a work visa should be sent back home. Iraqis, Syrians, Palestinians, etc. All sent back home. Then we can work on those citizenships. What can Hariri do exactly if the government and parliament approve such a law? They cant do nothing. aslan the law is approved just needs to be implemented at least those who dont live in the country and got citizenships. We need to clean our backyard. The LAF need to go hard into all territories and cleanup every single illegal act on our land.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    I think Lebanese are not racist in practice
    We accepted 2 millions refugees
    But we need to apply the law to protect Lebanon workers
    Second to encourage the Syrians to return
    Know in Mount Lebanon
    We can ask the Syrians to leave
    Their numbers are limited
    In other regions it will take some time
     
    Ice Tea

    Ice Tea

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    La2 7abibe.
    Mabadna the christians from the other ME countries. Those same christians who were with the regimes against us christians of Lebanon. Same as the other pricks like the palos.
    Badna lebanon to be a fully functioning state with all foreigners removed or a work visa if required and the rest go home. Work oportunities for the youth and those who were given citizenship in 94 revoked.

    Palestinian Christians are fully integrated into Lebanese Christian society tho, unlike their Muslim counterparts. At least the Christians already in Lebanon should be naturalized asap. There are 100k Assyrians now, as a Christian do you want them to go back to Iraq only to be killed?!
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

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    Palestinian Christians are fully integrated into Lebanese Christian society tho, unlike their Muslim counterparts. At least the Christians already in Lebanon should be naturalized asap. There are 100k Assyrians now, as a Christian do you want them to go back to Iraq only to be killed?!
    The issue is to get foreigners all foreigners out of the country not to be selective. The Assyrians have a different culture and very different living than the Lebanese. Palestinians also are not integrated wala chi. I dont accept to give thr Palos who were Arafat in the war citizenship bas la2ano they are christians. All foreigners out period!
     
    O Brother

    O Brother

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    So basically we are supposed to feel bad for the Englishman who is allegedly a homosexual who brought two young guys to his own apartment and he was somehow murdered after this!

    But in the same time we should spew hatred on the Syrians and not feel bad for them when they are dying in huge numbers or thousands of them becoming homeless and being abused by all kind of sick people!

    The truth is we don't have a clue what happened.. maybe he picked them up and invited them to his home and these two young boys were stupid not to understand what his invitation really meant.

    What would the motives be for these two boys to kill him?

    It is all speculations so for sure the best thing to do when you don't know a shit is keeping your mouth shut!

    who knows what this man was really up to!?
     
    Manifesto

    Manifesto

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    So basically we are supposed to feel bad for the Englishman who is allegedly a homosexual who brought two young guys to his own apartment and he was somehow murdered after this!

    But in the same time we should spew hatred on the Syrians and not feel bad for them when they are dying in huge numbers or thousands of them becoming homeless and being abused by all kind of sick people!

    The truth is we don't have a clue what happened.. maybe he picked them up and invited them to his home and these two young boys were stupid not to understand what his invitation really meant.

    What would the motives be for these two boys to kill him?

    It is all speculations so for sure the best thing to do when you don't know a shit is keeping your mouth shut!

    who knows what this man was really up to!?

    And this ladies and gentlemen why we should discuss Islam in this thread.
    Some have trouble sympathizing with the poor man due to their Islamic beliefs.

    Islam makes people blame the victim.
     
    Mrsrx

    Mrsrx

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    So basically we are supposed to feel bad for the Englishman who is allegedly a homosexual who brought two young guys to his own apartment and he was somehow murdered after this!

    But in the same time we should spew hatred on the Syrians and not feel bad for them when they are dying in huge numbers or thousands of them becoming homeless and being abused by all kind of sick people!

    The truth is we don't have a clue what happened.. maybe he picked them up and invited them to his home and these two young men were stupid not to understand what his invitation really meant.

    What would the motives be for these two boys to kill him?

    It is all speculations so for sure the best thing to do when you don't know a shit is keeping your mouth shut!

    who knows what this man was really up to!?
    You clearly said that we have no clue what happened yet you accuse the guy of coming on to them?
    There is a possibility that that happened but we do not know... maybe he was just a nice guy helping out some poor kids that went greedy and did what they did.
    We do not know so you cannot just assume that he was doing something to them for the only reason that he is gay! That is not how things work
     
    O Brother

    O Brother

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    You clearly said that we have no clue what happened yet you accuse the guy of coming on to them?
    There is a possibility that that happened but we do not know... maybe he was just a nice guy helping out some poor kids that went greedy and did what they did.
    We do not know so you cannot just assume that he was doing something to them for the only reason that he is gay! That is not how things work
    Yes we don't have a clue yet you see some here spewing hatred on other people and talk like they know what the motives were behind this murder while in truth they don't know a shit!

    We all can speculate about this and come with radical different outcome/stories..

    I say we don't know anything about this man and what he was up to.
    He could be a victim and there is also the possibility that these two young boys where actually defending themselves or even these two guys had nothing even to do with his murder the possibilities are many

    What do we know?

    Why should we take a side in this? why politicizing a murder making it left or right choice?

    Some members here can't leave a thread without spewing it with their hatred
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    Feel free to discuss anything about Gavin Ford's death in this thread. The original thread will be left for updates only.
     
    Manifesto

    Manifesto

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    You clearly said that we have no clue what happened yet you accuse the guy of coming on to them?
    There is a possibility that that happened but we do not know... maybe he was just a nice guy helping out some poor kids that went greedy and did what they did.
    We do not know so you cannot just assume that he was doing something to them for the only reason that he is gay! That is not how things work
    They two men were detained and confessed it was robbery.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    As @SeaAb mentionned this thread is to keep discussing topics around gavin ford’s murder, and the other thread will be kept for updates about the case itself.
     
    vicking

    vicking

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    Can we have some decency and organise a march or a demo to ask the end of insecurity?

    Where are our useless MPs? We need to organize a demo and a march with a sitin in front of his house

    I saw some calls on FB but nothing structured.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    Can we have some decency and organise a march or a demo to ask the end of insecurity?

    Where are our useless MPs? We need to organize a demo and a march with a sitin in front of his house

    I saw some calls on FB but nothing structured.
    Post those b links here
     
    vicking

    vicking

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    Post those b links here
    Just people asking for a march to be organized
    Can FPM or at least the Metn MPs do something for once? The only thing they do is talking while people are just getting killed, raped and harrassed every day

    This country is so different than it used to be in 2011 and before

    We need to organize a march. Who can organize? Why do we have MPs?.?
     
    Mrsrx

    Mrsrx

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    Just people asking for a march to be organized
    Can FPM or at least the Metn MPs do something for once? The only thing they do is talking while people are just getting killed, raped and harrassed every day

    This country is so different than it used to be in 2011 and before

    We need to organize a march. Who can organize? Why do we have MPs?.?
    What would you be asking for in the demo? and how to do it?
     
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