Germany bans Hezbollah - conducts raids

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    The West should help Lebanon free itself from the Iranian hegemony, we are witnessing how the country is melting due to the isolation and warring situation that we have with Iran's enemies. And this is a step in the right direction.
     
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    Germany Hardens Ban on Hezbollah


    The United States and Israel welcomed Berlin’s move to effectively outlaw all activity by the militant group and called on the rest of Europe to follow suit.

    BERLIN — Germany on Thursday banned the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah from carrying out any activity on its soil and declared the group a terrorist organization, in a move, long sought by Israel and the United States, that deals a blow to its ability to operate in Europe.

    Interior Minister Horst Seehofer ordered raids on four mosques and organizations suspected of being linked to Hezbollah, as well as some private addresses, as part of the measures.

    “The activities of Hezbollah violate criminal law, and the organization opposes the concept of international understanding, whether in its political, social or military structures,” the interior ministry said in a statement.

    Germany, like several other European countries and the European Union as a whole, had previously classed Hezbollah’s military wing as a terrorist group. But it had not applied the designation to the wider organization, which plays a powerful political role in Lebanon, with seats in both Parliament and the cabinet.

    Britain classified all of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization last year, a hardening in policy that brought it in line with countries including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia and, within the European Union, the Netherlands.

    In Germany last year, a group of lawmakers pressed Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government to take a tougher stance against the group by including its political organization in the ban to ensure that it would not be able to raise funds in Germany, citing the country’s special responsibility to Israel because of Nazi-era atrocities against Jews.

    Hezbollah began as an underground militant group that waged an insurgency against the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon, which ended in 2000. Since then, it has remained virulently anti-Israel while accumulating greater power in Lebanon and more recently in Iraq and in Syria, where its fighters intervened to help President Bashar al-Assad defeat rebels seeking to oust him.

    The group, which is backed by Iran, is the strongest military force in Lebanon, with thousands of trained fighters and more than 100,000 rockets and missiles pointed at Israel. Its opponents accuse it of using violence, including political assassinations, to cement its political power, while its supporters in Lebanon hail it as part of the “resistance” against Israeli and American policies in the region.

    The United States designated Hezbollah as a terrorist organization in 1997, but European countries have generally taken a softer approach, which has allowed European policymakers and diplomats to continue to meet with the group’s officials. Hezbollah itself has consistently rejected any differentiation between its military and political activities.

    Under German law, the country cannot outright ban a foreign organization, but the move on Thursday has the equivalent effect, making it impossible for Hezbollah to raise money and disseminate propaganda, whether online or in person.

    Germany’s intelligence services believe that the group has as many as 1,050 followers in the country. Although they meet secretly in mosques or cultural clubs, they advertise their association openly on the internet.

    The terrorism designation prohibits any public display of the organization’s symbols, whether during demonstrations, in print or online. It also allows the authorities to seize funds and investigate associated subgroups.

    Richard Grenell, the U.S. ambassador to Germany, who has long pushed for Berlin to move against the group, welcomed the move. “The world is a little bit safer,” he wrote on Twitter.

    Among the group’s symbols that are now banned are a yellow flag with a fist holding an assault rifle, previously often seen in an annual anti-Israel demonstration that attracts thousands of protesters in Berlin. The city had moved in recent years to prohibit the flag’s display during the march, which this year is scheduled for mid-May, though it is unclear whether it will go ahead given the restrictions on public life because of the coronavirus.

    “Germany must no longer offer a refuge for the supporters of an Islamist organization which, driven by a deep hatred of Jews, incites people to violence and finances terror,” Josef Schuster, the head of Jewish Council in Germany, said in response to the ban.

    Israel’s ambassador to Germany, Jeremy Issacharoff, also praised what he described on Twitter as a “welcome and significant decision,” and urged policymakers in Brussels to follow suit, adding: “Persistent threats by Hezbollah against Israel’s security and its efforts to undermine stability in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and more, demand a firm and resolute response.”

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    Picasso

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    Germany Hardens Ban on Hezbollah


    The United States and Israel welcomed Berlin’s move to effectively outlaw all activity by the militant group and called on the rest of Europe to follow suit.

    BERLIN — Germany on Thursday banned the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah from carrying out any activity on its soil and declared the group a terrorist organization, in a move, long sought by Israel and the United States, that deals a blow to its ability to operate in Europe.

    Interior Minister Horst Seehofer ordered raids on four mosques and organizations suspected of being linked to Hezbollah, as well as some private addresses, as part of the measures.

    “The activities of Hezbollah violate criminal law, and the organization opposes the concept of international understanding, whether in its political, social or military structures,” the interior ministry said in a statement.

    Germany, like several other European countries and the European Union as a whole, had previously classed Hezbollah’s military wing as a terrorist group. But it had not applied the designation to the wider organization, which plays a powerful political role in Lebanon, with seats in both Parliament and the cabinet.

    Britain classified all of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization last year, a hardening in policy that brought it in line with countries including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia and, within the European Union, the Netherlands.

    In Germany last year, a group of lawmakers pressed Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government to take a tougher stance against the group by including its political organization in the ban to ensure that it would not be able to raise funds in Germany, citing the country’s special responsibility to Israel because of Nazi-era atrocities against Jews.

    Hezbollah began as an underground militant group that waged an insurgency against the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon, which ended in 2000. Since then, it has remained virulently anti-Israel while accumulating greater power in Lebanon and more recently in Iraq and in Syria, where its fighters intervened to help President Bashar al-Assad defeat rebels seeking to oust him.

    The group, which is backed by Iran, is the strongest military force in Lebanon, with thousands of trained fighters and more than 100,000 rockets and missiles pointed at Israel. Its opponents accuse it of using violence, including political assassinations, to cement its political power, while its supporters in Lebanon hail it as part of the “resistance” against Israeli and American policies in the region.

    The United States designated Hezbollah as a terrorist organization in 1997, but European countries have generally taken a softer approach, which has allowed European policymakers and diplomats to continue to meet with the group’s officials. Hezbollah itself has consistently rejected any differentiation between its military and political activities.

    Under German law, the country cannot outright ban a foreign organization, but the move on Thursday has the equivalent effect, making it impossible for Hezbollah to raise money and disseminate propaganda, whether online or in person.

    Germany’s intelligence services believe that the group has as many as 1,050 followers in the country. Although they meet secretly in mosques or cultural clubs, they advertise their association openly on the internet.

    The terrorism designation prohibits any public display of the organization’s symbols, whether during demonstrations, in print or online. It also allows the authorities to seize funds and investigate associated subgroups.

    Richard Grenell, the U.S. ambassador to Germany, who has long pushed for Berlin to move against the group, welcomed the move. “The world is a little bit safer,” he wrote on Twitter.

    Among the group’s symbols that are now banned are a yellow flag with a fist holding an assault rifle, previously often seen in an annual anti-Israel demonstration that attracts thousands of protesters in Berlin. The city had moved in recent years to prohibit the flag’s display during the march, which this year is scheduled for mid-May, though it is unclear whether it will go ahead given the restrictions on public life because of the coronavirus.

    “Germany must no longer offer a refuge for the supporters of an Islamist organization which, driven by a deep hatred of Jews, incites people to violence and finances terror,” Josef Schuster, the head of Jewish Council in Germany, said in response to the ban.

    Israel’s ambassador to Germany, Jeremy Issacharoff, also praised what he described on Twitter as a “welcome and significant decision,” and urged policymakers in Brussels to follow suit, adding: “Persistent threats by Hezbollah against Israel’s security and its efforts to undermine stability in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and more, demand a firm and resolute response.”

    NYTimes
    Enough with the hypocrisy among their supporters living there off the West's back then calling it infidel and chanting for Iran.

    Pity the people whose minds are chained and enslaved to the Supreme Leader, even though they live far abroad. eating from the West's hand then spitting on it.

    The school's name in the picture speaks volume, al-Ka'im is Imam Mahdi, and they are waiting for him to come back so they could rule the world and split people between believers and non-believers, only to "clean" the earth (sic!) and wipe out the latter, revealing a genocidal tendency that is engraved in ideology.

    FPM is committing an unforgivable misjudgment by covering and shielding this!
     
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    Muki

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    The school's name in the picture speaks volume, al-Ka'im is Imam Mahdi, and they are waiting for him to come back so they could rule the world and split people between believers and non-believers, only to "clean" the earth (sic!) and wipe out the latter, revealing a genocidal tendency that is engraved in ideology.
    This is true for Islam as a whole. Sunnis strive for global domination all the same.
     
    Carol Friandise

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    Ultimately, Iran will give in. It’s the only way to ensure the survival of the Mullah regime, and its proxies (Hezbollah).
    وأبيرضوش بني متّول يركبوا ألا بوم أم طبليو ومرسيداس وأجدد موديل و بل فبّول ما بشجّعوا ألا
    Olmanya
     
    Carol Friandise

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    The school's name in the picture speaks volume, al-Ka'im is Imam Mahdi, and they are waiting for him to come back so they could rule the world and split people between believers and non-believers, only to "clean" the earth (sic!) and wipe out the latter, revealing a genocidal tendency that is engraved in ideology.

    FPM is committing an unforgivable misjudgment by covering and shielding this!
    يقصف عمرك ... ولك أنشأ الله ريته ألله يقصف عمرك هههههههه
    هلق هيك فهمت؟ عال منيح لكن مبروك عليك رياض سلامة وفوفو سينيورة ونونو مشنوق ونبيه برّي ووليد جنبلاط ودونالد ترامب وكل ال

    non-believers as7abak w 3ashu 3am ta3mel 2osla7 wou teghyeer b Allah?


    بعض الأحاديث الواردة في شأن المهدي:

    حديث عبد الله بن مسعود رضي الله عنه قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «لا تنقضي الدنيا حتى يملك العرب رجل من أهل بيتي يواطئ اسمه اسمي» (رواه الترمذي وأبو داود)،

    وفي رواية لأبي داود: «يواطئ اسمه اسمي واسم أبيه اسم أبي».

    حديث أبي سعيد الخدري رضي الله عنه قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «المهدي مني أجلى الجبهة أقنى الأنف يملأ الأرض قسطاً وعدلاً كما مُلئت جوراً وظلماً يملك سبع سنين» (رواه أبو داود وغيره).

    حديث أم سلمة رضي الله عنها قالت: سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول: «المهدي من عترتي من ولد فاطمة» (رواه أبوداود).

    حديث علي رضي الله عنه قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «المهدي منا أهل البيت يصلحه الله في ليلة» (رواه أحمد وابن ماجه).

    حديث أبي سعيد الخدري رضي الله عنه أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: «يخرج في آخر أمتي المهدي، يسقيه الله الغيث، وتخرج الأرض نباتها، ويعطى المال صحاحاً، وتكثر الماشية، وتعظم الأمة، يعيش سبعاً أو ثمانياً -يعني حججاً-» (أخرجه الحاكم ووافقه الذهبي).

    حديث جابر رضي الله عنه قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «ينزل عيسى بن مريم، فيقول أميرهم المهدي: تعال صل بنا، فيقول: لا، إن بعضهم أمير بعض تكرمة الله لهذه الأمة» (رواه الحارث بن أبي أسامة في مسنده بإسناد جيد كما قال ابن القيم في المنار المنيف)
    .

    رابط المادة: حول أحاديث المهدي - طريق الإسلام
     
    Carol Friandise

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    The West should help Lebanon free itself from the Iranian hegemony, we are witnessing how the country is melting due to the isolation and warring situation that we have with Iran's enemies. And this is a step in the right direction.
    Lebanon is melting due to the west not helping Lebanon and implanting traitors as politicians in the state to rule us.
    don't you get it ? it's a pity ... Lebanon has lost its sovereignty when it lost its currency. All the actions of the west,
    are for the sake of israel and not Lebanon. The west doesn't love you. I don't know why we still cling only to the west and
    refuse any alternatives ? why should we always pay the price of the west imposing israel on us by force ?!
    what's wrong with bilateral relations with other countries without passing through the American or NATO channels?

    Do you truly believe that TOTAL didn't find any oil and gas in our coast but there are plenty near the coast of israel ?!

     
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    Rafidi

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    Enough with the hypocrisy among their supporters living there off the West's back then calling it infidel and chanting for Iran.
    Can you provide evidence to back up your claim that they have called the West "infidel"?

    You are mistaking others for your Saudi Wahhabi Takfiri terror friends. When would they raid Salafist schools, centres and associations for the sake of our shared humanity?

    Apparently, Germany succumbed to American and Israehelli pressure. Not because they're convinced that the largest political party in another country is a terror group. It is an insult to the great German people before it is an insult to Lebanon, Lebanese and Hezballah as a whole.

    Pity the people whose minds are chained and enslaved to the Supreme Leader, even though they live far abroad. eating from the West's hand then spitting on it.
    your posts are poor quality ones. You sandwich different topics and baseless claims and post at a go. It shows your mental capacity is low. And it also reveals how wicked you are and you think.

    The school's name in the picture speaks volume, al-Ka'im is Imam Mahdi, and they are waiting for him to come back so they could rule the world and split people between believers and non-believers, only to "clean" the earth (sic!) and wipe out the latter, revealing a genocidal tendency that is engraved in ideology.
    That is not what Shia beliefs say (about the mission of Imam Mahdi). It is how you interpret it.

    FPM is committing an unforgivable misjudgment by covering and shielding this!
    A summary of your senseless and wicked display:

    -they call the west infidel
    - they are enslaved to the supreme leader
    -they eat from and spit into the hand of the west.
    -the Mahdi will split the world into believers and unbelievers (as if the world isnt already split enough).
    - FPM is committing a mistake.

    Your mind is entangled in filthy imaginations. Clear your mind from grudges and wickedness.
     
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    The_FPMer

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    The West should help Lebanon free itself from the Iranian hegemony, we are witnessing how the country is melting due to the isolation and warring situation that we have with Iran's enemies. And this is a step in the right direction.
    PLO situation was much easier because they're Palestinians. But HA is made-up of Lebanese with a wide support within the Shia base. They are a fait-accompli and we can't let the US instigate war between Lebanese for its own purposes.

    Aslan the US henne baddon yehon in power to incite sectarian strife. Min jeb Iran 3al 7ekem bi Iraq? Da33afo the Sunnis and watched as they were ethnically cleansed from many parts of Iraq and Syria. You need two to tango. It's not a coincidence that 1979 was a watershed moment in both the Sunni and the Shia world.
     
    Rafidi

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    PLO situation was much easier because they're Palestinians. But HA is made-up of Lebanese with a wide support within the Shia base. They are a fait-accompli and we can't let the US instigate war between Lebanese for its own purposes.

    Aslan the US henne baddon yehon in power to incite sectarian strife. Min jeb Iran 3al 7ekem bi Iraq? Da33afo the Sunnis and watched as they were ethnically cleansed from many parts of Iraq and Syria. You need two to tango. It's not a coincidence that 1979 was a watershed moment in both the Sunni and the Shia world.
    Your fantasies are too wild.
     
    Rafidi

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    Just because what I said is outside your overton's window doesn't that it's not true. It just means that you can't accept what I said.
    Your mind is entrenched in sectarian malice. This is the type of threads all the sectarian vultures gather on to spew their hatred and venom and pour out their racist mind and rejoice.

    You forgot to mention in your last post that Iraq was ruled by a brutal tyrant who was supported for decades by the same western powers that ended up uprooting him. And that tyrant launched an 8 year war on Iran and used chemical weapons on Iranians and Kurds. The chemical weapons supplied by the same people who go around the world claiming to stand against the use of unconventional weapons. The same tyrant got too inflated and ended up invading Kuwait. He ruled the majority of the people of Iraq with an iron fist and committed genocide using chemical weapons. What does Iran have to do with all these? Which cleansing of Sunnis did the Shia commit in Iraq? Since the fall of Saddam in 2003, Sunni terror Takfiri groups emerged with regional and international support, starting with alZarqawi (a Jordanian Alqaeda agent) and were conducting suicide attacks targeting Shia civilians and mosques. Then came ISIS. So the Shia should fold their arms and watch these venomous Takfiri groups take roots among the Sunni population of Iraq?

    To this day, Shia majority Bahrain is under the grip of a brutal tyrant allied with the West. Arent the Shia in Yemen brutally slaughtered and genocided? What have western countries done to restraint their puppets? Absolutely nothing. They still think the Sunni old guards who exchanged western hegemony for power can continue to suppress their populations made up of diverse religious groups and ethnicities like it was some centuries ago. They see human rights subjectively. If humans under abuse have favorable views about Iran, they dont care. And they turn a blind eye to freedom of speech and expression and association. Knowing fully well that not once has a Shia committed any terror or Takfiri attack in Europe. And if any Shia were to do such on his own, the highest ranking Shia ayatollahs and the entire Shia world would disown him. Shias have conducted themselves peacefully and obeyed the laws of their host countries in each and every continent. The very Takfiri groups and people that go about slaughtering a man on a London street, blowing up subways and attacking institutions are the ones flourishing with Saudi money in Europe. Europe has compromised its independence by submitting to American and Zionist demands and dictates.
     
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    Apparently, Germany succumbed to American and Israehelli pressure. Not because they're convinced that the largest political party in another country is a terror group. It is an insult to the great German people before it is an insult to Lebanon, Lebanese and Hezballah as a whole.

    Germany has a moral obligation to the Jewish people. They can't allow an organization that denies the Holocaust ever happened (which is a crime in Germany), that claims Jews created AIDS and that wishes that all Jews would move to Israel 'so it would be easier to kill them all', to have a platform in their country.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Germany has a moral obligation to the Jewish people. They can't allow an organization that denies the Holocaust ever happened (which is a crime in Germany), that claims Jews created AIDS and that wishes that all Jews would move to Israel 'so it would be easier to kill them all', to have platform in their country.
    I dont have any hope of convincing you that the German decision is unjust, oppressive and an insult to every Lebanese and every German person (their country's independence has been compromised by American and Zionist pressure on their country). You support an unjust Zionist entity that thrives on apartheid and genocide and regards other people as nonhuman.

    Germany has a moral obligation to humanity. No one is claiming the Jews did not suffer under Hitler. Even those who would doubt the flat figure that 6 million Jews, not one more or one less perished cant deny the Jews suffered. But would that give the Jews, in particular Zionist Jews, the right to carry out the same abuse that was meted on them? Was Hitler Lebanese or Palestinian?

    So when did Hezballah claim the Jews created AIDS? I am not aware. Blacks believe AIDS was created to reduce their population. Would you declare them as terrorists too for holding on to such a conspiracy theory?

    You and your likes throw around big claims only ignorant people and illiterates would buy. GTFO.
     
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    The_FPMer

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    Your mind is entrenched in sectarian malice. This is the type of threads all the sectarian vultures gather on to spew their hatred and venom and pour out their racist mind and rejoice.

    You forgot to mention in your last post that Iraq was ruled by a brutal tyrant who was supported for decades by the same western powers that ended up uprooting him. And that tyrant launched an 8 year war on Iran and used chemical weapons on Iranians and Kurds. The chemical weapons supplied by the same people who go around the world claiming to stand against the use of unconventional weapons. The same tyrant got too inflated and ended up invading Kuwait. He ruled the majority of the people of Iraq with an iron fist and committed genocide using chemical weapons. What does Iran have to do with all these? Which cleansing of Sunnis did the Shia commit in Iraq? Since the fall of Saddam in 2003, Sunni terror Takfiri groups emerged with regional and international support, starting with alZarqawi (a Jordanian Alqaeda agent) and were conducting suicide attacks targeting Shia civilians and mosques. Then came ISIS. So the Shia should fold their arms and watch these venomous Takfiri groups take roots among the Sunni population of Iraq?

    To this day, Shia majority Bahrain is under the grip of a brutal tyrant allied with the West. Arent the Shia in Yemen brutally slaughtered and genocided? What have western countries done to restraint their puppets? Absolutely nothing. They still think the Sunni old guards who exchanged western hegemony for power can continue to suppress their populations made up of diverse religious groups and ethnicities like it was some centuries ago. They see human rights subjectively. If humans under abuse have favorable views about Iran, they dont care. And they turn a blind eye to freedom of speech and expression and association. Knowing fully well that not once has a Shia committed any terror or Takfiri attack in Europe. And if any Shia were to do such on his own, the highest ranking Shia ayatollahs and the entire Shia world would disown him. Shias have conducted themselves peacefully and obeyed the laws of their host countries in each and every continent. The very Takfiri groups and people that go about slaughtering a man on a London street, blowing up subways and attacking institutions are the ones flourishing with Saudi money in Europe. Europe has compromised its independence by submitting to American and Zionist demands and dictates.
    You're looking at just 35% of reality.
     
    The_FPMer

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    inian?

    So when did Hezballah claim the Jews created AIDS? I am not aware. Blacks believe AIDS was created to reduce their population. Would you declare them as terrorists too for holding on to such a conspiracy theory?
    Black panther party in the US were declared a threat to national security when they started instigating social strife. Ma fik tel3ab bi balesh. HA is a regional powerhouse, it comes at a cost.
     
    Rafidi

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    Black panther party in the US were declared a threat to national security when they started instigating social strife. Ma fik tel3ab bi balesh. HA is a regional powerhouse, it comes at a cost.
    What happens to Trump white supremacists who were publicly displaying weapons and carrying confederate flags?
     
    The_FPMer

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    What happens to Trump white supremacists who were publicly displaying weapons and carrying confederate flags?
    Law bet 5affif dodging and whataboutism bi koun afdal bas hayde kermelak. State department has been very tough on White Supremacists for years.

     
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