The_FPMer
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Germany is in Europe ya baba, that's not their problem. Moreover, given their Nazi past, they have to be strict towards a party that seeks to eradicate Israel.Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians...
Germany is in Europe ya baba, that's not their problem. Moreover, given their Nazi past, they have to be strict towards a party that seeks to eradicate Israel.Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians...
The Tashnag in Lebanon isn't funded by the Tashnag in Armenia and doesn't send funds back to it in Armenia. They're not a branch of the Armenian Tashnag.
But they do have transnational links. They operate in Germany, USA, Latin America, all over the Middle East. They were founded by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and still get funding from Iran. They are engaged in direct conflict in numerous Middle Eastern countries and were involved in the Bosnian war. If that doesn't constitute as transnational then I don't know what is!I have no evidence to back that up or reject that. Like the many claims you spew out of your @** , i am sure you have no evidence to back up this one too. But the fact is they have transnational links. And going by the fact that you support what the German authorities did to Hezballah and their followers in Geemany, we should do the same to Armenians in Lebanon, going by your logic.
Germany is in Europe ya baba, that's not their problem. Moreover, given their Nazi past, they have to be strict towards a party that seeks to eradicate Israel.
They did act as Europeans and banned them. Had they acted like ME they would have bombed themIf they are in Europe, then they should act as Europeans and not as Middle Easterners. They should not interfere in Middle East politics and make biased policies under Zionist and American pressure.
You should come out too and stop hiding your face behind your fingers. Tell us that you hate Muslims generally and you would like them to be eliminated in Europe and for them to disappear in Lebanon and for them to leave the earth to another planet or be genocided. You have made one baseless claim to another without backing them up and you speak and admit they're hypothesis. Why should I waste my time with your waste product you consider as opinions?
But they do have transnational links. They operate in Germany, USA, Latin America, all over the Middle East. They were founded by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and still get funding from Iran. They are engaged in direct conflict in numerous Middle Eastern countries and were involved in the Bosnian war. If that doesn't constitute as transnational then I don't know what is!
They did act as Europeans and banned them. Had they acted like ME they would have bombed them![]()
Armenians aren't working in Lebanon for the benefit of Armenia nor did Armenian parties set up branches in Lebanon. HA's organization in Germany is a branch of HA's network.But there is a Lebanese Christian party, not only with transnational links, but they also belong to another nation. But that is all sweet and fine because to you they are Christians. When Lebanese have dual citizenship, what do you expect them to do? Disown their country of origin?
I concur, I worry about ordinary Shias as well.My worries are not about Hezballah. They're more than capable of sorting themselves out I believe. Most of similar decisions in the past have not affected them or changed anything.
My worries are about the ORDINARY Lebanese Shia person with no political affiliation whatsoever to Hezballah getting harassed in Europe and in western capitals.
If that happens, it is obligatory and a must that the Lebanese government should retaliate against whatever country, no matter the miserable state of Lebanon and even if that would mean shattering relations with European and western countries. Ordinary Lebanese citizens who may be Shia, who have no political affiliation to Hezballah or even to any other party, should not be stereotyped, scapegoated and harassed.
We arent going to be oppressed for our national and religious identity because they have a problem with Hezballah. Most times, it isnt Hezballah that would carry the burden from these western decisions. It is the ordinary Lebanese. Those who were arrested in Germany, and alleged to be part of Hezballah, whether with dual citizenship or not, would be made to face German law. That brings the end of Hezbollah's presence in Germany. But there are ordinary Lebanese who live, work and visit Germany and are of Lebanese Shia decent. If any western country is going to subject ordinary Lebanese citizens to abuse for their national and religious identity, then it is obligatory that Lebanon, as a country respond in kind. That should be clear and the Lebanese govt should know this and make it clear to their German counterparts to ensure Lebanese are not discriminated against for their identity or religious beliefs.
True germany can play retard as much as they want for as long as they want to .. however, Lebanon, Arabs, Muslims have no obligations towardsGermany has a moral obligation to the Jewish people. They can't allow an organization that denies the Holocaust ever happened (which is a crime in Germany), that claims Jews created AIDS and that wishes that all Jews would move to Israel 'so it would be easier to kill them all', to have a platform in their country.
It's not about ordinary Shia, it's about HA, Lebanon and the Lebanese people.I concur, I worry about ordinary Shias as well.
From the NYT link you presented (you must be blind):
"The Trump administration is expected to announce on Monday that it is designating an ultranationalist group based in Russia as a terrorist organization, according to officials. It is the first time the government will apply the label to a white supremacist group."