HA and the legacy of suicide bombings

Do you consider the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing a terrorist act?

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Resign

Resign

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In the middle of a road in a busy city?
In a very crowded barrack in beirut.

But that’s only because busy cities with crowded American/French/Aussie/Canadian/kiwi etc civilians did not exist in Lebanon back then

The few civilians of such nationalities were kidnapped, tortured and killed without resorting to a suicide act.
 
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  • theMightyRedV

    theMightyRedV

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    In a very crowded barrack in beirut.

    But that’s only because busy cities with crowded American/French/Aussie/Canadian/kiwi etc civilians did not exist in Lebanon back then

    The few civilians of such nationalities were kidnapped, tortured and killed without resorting to a suicide act.
    if you're talking about the marines who were actively supporting "israel", then open a separate thread and ill happily share my thoughts :)

    As for the rest...well....not going to waste my energy
     
    AtheistForYeezus

    AtheistForYeezus

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    if you're talking about the marines who were actively supporting "israel", then open a separate thread and ill happily share my thoughts :)

    As for the rest...well....not going to waste my energy
    I've already created a tribute thread to the fallen marines.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    @SeaAb
    Okay back to Lebanon



    But Hezbollah were the ones who revolutionized the act in 80s Lebanon
    The claim that a Shia group (Hezbollah) started "suicide bombings" to justify or compare the suicide attacks of Wahhabi Takfiri groups is a fallacy.

    Hezballah never used "suicide attacks" to target civilian populations, places or targets for their beliefs or political views or for whatever reasons. And that tactic was only used on military targets when the means were small and the enemy was overwhelming and on our occupied lands.

    No Shia will blow himself up in the middle of civilians or in a busy street. The idea of targeting civilians is a concept shared among the Zionists and the Wahhabi Takfiri groups. It is nothing but justifiable only under Takfirism, whether Jewish Takfirism or Wahhabi Takfirism. We, as a true Muslims, do not carryout terrorist attacks. Part of the rule of engagement in Islamic struggle is not attacking civilians or people who have no weapons to fight. Military targets on our occupied land are legitimate targets regardless of the means of attack used - whether using eggs, hot olive oil (as our mothers in Nabatiye poured hot olive oil on Israehelli soldiers) or using sticks and stones.

    And just to burst your bubble and finger your fantasy. If the entire Pro Zionist world gathers in Israehell, including Australian and American troops to attack Lebanon, and precisely Hezballah, they will be treated the same way Israehelli troops are treated and Israehell will come under the same fire as at when its own terrorist forces bomb or attack Lebanon. You have tried it in Syria and failed. Try it on Lebanon and not only fail but face the unexpected outcome. Furthermore, you're starting a mess that will eventually consume the entire occupied Palestine and that will only end when the apartheid Zionist state cease to exist. It will open the door to hundreds of thousands of fighters from across the Muslim world to support South Lebanon (you can continue living in the delusion of peace in your areas in the Northern half of Lebanon, thinking you'd be untouched). Silly!

    I'd advise you to stop fantasizing. I'd also advise the entire world to seek a just and permanent solution to the Israehelli-Palestinian conflict, sooner than later. Of course, my advice is insignificant coming from an individual who can be regarded as a nobody in the bigger frame of political and military happenings. But everyone should smell the coffee and get hold of the reality on ground. Israehell no longer has superior military power. The days where Israehell had absolute military dominance are over. That means Israehell is not invincible or undefeatable. Even if it isn't completely defeated, its core can be rattled and it will be rendered unsafe for its citizens to live peacefully on the occupied territories. The territories it holds can be penetrated and taken over and the fight taken to their doorsteps in any future war. The fight will not be restricted to the land of its victims.

    It is time for Zionist apartheid to end in Palestine and time for Israehell to stop imagining it still has the upper hand to threaten and dictate to its neighbors with destruction while its own citizens live in peace in their large cities. Those days are long gone and that is why Netanyahu is restless and confused. What happened in South Africa in ending apartheid should be duplicated in Palestine. Israehell may still have the technology and resources to fight, but it is no long in the driver's seat position. It can start wars it cannot end and it can face the prospects of others starting wars that it can also not end. It is best to have an end to apartheid in Palestine. A one state solution with all the people of Palestine voting in a referendum on how to live and coexist equally as citizens and with the right of return for Palestinians. Anything else, the Zionists will continue facing the threats of being forcefully expelled from all of Palestine and always facing the threats of destructive wars that can affect their daily lives. These are no longer the days of Israehell defeating five Arab armies in six days, even with western support. They can only je$k off to the past and nothing more. This analysis is apt, the bitter reality and very poignant. It is left for the world to take heed and for Israehelli leaders to understand that you cannot be an island in the Middle East.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    The ones who killed the marines in 1983 went on to become Hizbullah members.
    The Marines were a military target on our land acting as an occupation force that was not welcome or wanted by the people (whether the attacks were justified or not can be debated but those attacks were different from the way pro-Zionist Wahhabi Takfiri groups target civilians in mosques and churches for their beliefs). And they were treated as such. They weren't civilians in the subway or in busy marketplaces carrying out their daily lives.
     
    Ice Tea

    Ice Tea

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    The Marines were a military target on our land acting as an occupation force that was not welcome or wanted by the people (whether the attacks were justified or not can be debated but those attacks were different from the way pro-Zionist Wahhabi Takfiri groups target civilians in mosques and churches for their beliefs). And they were treated as such. They weren't civilians in the subway or in busy marketplaces carrying out their daily lives.

    Buenos Aires and Bulgaria bombings say hello. Your terrorist kind has a history of traveling to the other side of the world just to kill Jewish civilians.


     
    Ice Tea

    Ice Tea

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    On 25 July 2013, the Bulgarian Interior Ministry released photographs of two Hezbollah operatives suspected in the bombing: Australian citizen Malid Farah (also known as "Hussein Hussein"), and Canadian citizen Hassan al-Haj. In 2013, and partly in response to the bombing, the EU unanimously voted to list the military branch of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.

    On 18 July 2014, Bulgaria announced that they identified the bomber as a dual Lebanese-French citizen named Mohamad Hassan El-Husseini.
     
    AtheistForYeezus

    AtheistForYeezus

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    Today, we remember all those who've fallen victim to Islamic terrorism, from the marines who died protecting Lebanon from Islamists, to those lost on 9/11.

    Our condolences to the American people, our partners in the fight against evil.

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    M.jaafar

    M.jaafar

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    This was not a suicide bombing, it was not like someone woke up one day and he found out that he hates Americans, got a bomb and bombed the barracks, the correct name for this attack is a retaliation attack, but for what? You see, wene people are discussing this particular event they get emotional, it shrouds their judgment, and their facts check, this attack would have never happened had the U.S.S New Jersey not bombed for weeks Shia and druze villages and towns that caused the deaths of hundreds of civilians, and then it was swept under the rag, I am taking this from the wiki page on the battleship:
    The accuracy of New Jersey's guns was also called into question. An investigation into New Jersey's gunfire effectiveness in Lebanon, led by Marine Colonel Don Price, found that many of the ship's shells had missed their targets by as much as 10,000 yards (9,140 m) and therefore may have inadvertently killed civilians.

    So, because of this attack, the barracks was bombed not by Hezbollah but by the defunct Lebanese Islamic Jihad Organisation not related to the Palestinian one.
     
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