keep thinking that way.
raddalo yeha?
A gift ?
chou hal maskhara
Aoun as a President executes hezbollah’s policies
In fact Aoun becoming president benefitted Hezbollah more than anyone
They owe him not the other way around.
Hariri Family Legacy vs. Aounists' Accusations
- Thread starter Thawra # Furoshima
- Start date
keep thinking that way.
raddalo yeha?
A gift ?
chou hal maskhara
Aoun as a President executes hezbollah’s policies
In fact Aoun becoming president benefitted Hezbollah more than anyone
They owe him not the other way around.
Ralph N
Well-Known Member
So @LVV @CrusaderV
You opened a thread and you are trying to convince us that Hariri was not corrupted?... wow you even changed your historical views?!!!
Good job man...
You opened a thread and you are trying to convince us that Hariri was not corrupted?... wow you even changed your historical views?!!!
Good job man...
Thawra # Furoshima
Well-Known Member
That was the thread introduction
Rafic Harriri rebuilt the
- downtown
- electricity ( 24/24 h in 1998 )
- telecom
- Roads
- Airport
- Hospitals
His death a national holiday paved the way for the Syrians to leave Lebanon, he worked with Chiraq to pass resolutions 1559, he supported resistance against Israel ( 1993, 1996 wars which paved the way to liberate Lebanon)
- on the negative side he covered Syrians occupation for a period of time , he was probably corrupted, he made the naturalization decree ( at least he did for his community; Aounists were not able to give Lebanese nationality back to a lot of people. he supported electoral law not in Christians interest.
He left a debt of 37 billion dollars in 2005 with Emile Lahoud but he saved Lebanon economy twice in Paris 1 and Paris 2.
I said he was probably corrupted but you don’t read Ralph
Ralph N
Well-Known Member
\You mean HIS DOWNTOWN TO BRING HIS SAUDIS BECAUSE AVERAGE LEBANESE CANNOT AFFORD TO GO THERE.
Really? Electricity in 1998? men wen jebta hayde? kezzeb,,,
Telecom? HIS CELLIS AND LIBANCELL? HE TOOK THE SECTOR>..
RAODS oh come on...
Airport? Kess ekhta men Mattar Beirut haddara 10000 Senne la hariri?
Hospitols? wein? his Insurance companies?!!!
Syrians were moving out, Aoun new it thats why he came back, hariris death just made is faster...
Hey, [....] when you mentioned all those glorias things ya CRUSADER CHIEF kindly remind us about the 450,000 Palestinians he WATTANON be lebnen.... mazellak bta3ref web tefham...
Walla hawde ma3le shi.
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Ralph N
Well-Known Member
GUYS PLEASE BALLA HABAL... EL HARIRI SAKKAR 3ALLA EL ST. GEORGES BECAUSE HE WAS CHRISTIAN, SAKKAR EL DOWN TOWN MAJORITY CHRISTIANS AND MADE IT MUSLIMS...SAKKAR 3ALLA KEL SHI MASSIHE, SAKKAR 3ALLA LEKNISSET BEL DOWN TOWN AND MADE A BIG MOSQUE...
YA CRUSADER IN CHIEF, SHAME TO SEE SOMEONE PRETENDING TO BE CHRISTIAN AND CRUSADER AND DEFENDS ISLAMIC INVASION....
WEESSLET MA3AK TA TDEFE3 3AN EL HARIRI>?
HIRAK JARRABNA NEFHAM.... INTIFADA KELLON YANNI KELLON ELNA YEMKEN.... BAS TOUSAL MA3AK TDEFE3 3AN JUMBI HARIRI BERRI SANYOURA AXIS HAYDE WADHA....ADE DAFA3OULAK?
TRAITOR!!!
YA CRUSADER IN CHIEF, SHAME TO SEE SOMEONE PRETENDING TO BE CHRISTIAN AND CRUSADER AND DEFENDS ISLAMIC INVASION....
WEESSLET MA3AK TA TDEFE3 3AN EL HARIRI>?
HIRAK JARRABNA NEFHAM.... INTIFADA KELLON YANNI KELLON ELNA YEMKEN.... BAS TOUSAL MA3AK TDEFE3 3AN JUMBI HARIRI BERRI SANYOURA AXIS HAYDE WADHA....ADE DAFA3OULAK?
TRAITOR!!!
You need to review the chain of causalities
Hariri came over a weakened christian community
The taef accord was a necessity to stop the inter christian bloodshed
stop repeating the ‘last 30 years’ broken record
Our problems started before that.
The_FPMer
Well-Known Member
Most of the Aounist accusations are factual but I have no idea how does that translate into Michel Aoun being the savior of Lebanon? This is the epitome of warped logic, especially validated in the last years since it has become evident that the grandiose anti-corruption screams are nothing more than leverage tools in negotiations that will be dropped the millisecond FPM gets more seats on the table. Clearest example of this is Riyad Salemeh's re-appointment. FPM never named a substitute, just used their rejection as a way to highball in order to get more appointments in numerous governmental positions later.
We are living in dire times at the present moment because of the Hariri Sr. legacy. But 15 years after his death, why is the Hariri Sr. cash-cow system still untouched by his successors in the government from the entire political spectrum? Because the perks were too attractive to resist.
We are living in dire times at the present moment because of the Hariri Sr. legacy. But 15 years after his death, why is the Hariri Sr. cash-cow system still untouched by his successors in the government from the entire political spectrum? Because the perks were too attractive to resist.
L'iliade et l'odyssée
Active Member
Hariri was evil. He paid all the parties in Lebanon during the war to destruct the downtown, so he can come on that white horse to be the "Savior".
Aounists did their best from 1990 to 2005 to liberate Lebanon from Syrians Occupancy, and starting 2005 they tried their best to unify lebanese under Lebanons interests. Harriri had its Mafias Joumblatt his own, Geagea his own, Berri his own, Frangieh his own, the frata Christians (Murr Gemayel, Hawat..and the other maneyik) their own. War against mafias is raging now in Lebanon. We are all waiting for the outcome.
Aounists did their best from 1990 to 2005 to liberate Lebanon from Syrians Occupancy, and starting 2005 they tried their best to unify lebanese under Lebanons interests. Harriri had its Mafias Joumblatt his own, Geagea his own, Berri his own, Frangieh his own, the frata Christians (Murr Gemayel, Hawat..and the other maneyik) their own. War against mafias is raging now in Lebanon. We are all waiting for the outcome.
Ralph N
Well-Known Member
Americans threatened hell if we dare change Riyad Salemeh....
!Aoune32
Well-Known Member
The_FPMer
Well-Known Member
Give me a credible source that proves this.
Danny Z
Legendary Member
During that time there were people inside the system that was all pro-syrian but still opposing the Hariri bankruptcy legacy policy, people like Salim El Hoss, Najah Wakim all syrian lackeys at that time of course yet in perspective they deserve a statue for their vision. While Hariri fa2a3 w fa77am he never lived to know how devastating his robberies and his ponzi schemes were. But since his son keeps saying baba w meshyin 3a khota than his son inherites the responsibility and should be held accountable, anyway he inherited the fortune (and tax free) so the government should go after the Hariri wealth.
I'm the biggest Islamophobe but I don't get the uproar over Al Amin Mosque.
Lebanon is a Muslim-majority country.
!Aoune32
Well-Known Member
It is not about being a muslim or christian majority country. It is about that Mosque is like Hariri octopus tentacles all over Beirut. He wanted Beirut to himself and that is the issue.
coralie
Legendary Member
We do not need to declare 13 oct a day off To honor our lebanese martyres . This is all the difference between you and us .
You made hariri death a day off but you never honored those who fell under the fire of those to whom your beloved martyre gave the key of your capital Beirut . Cause you never respected your own people .
Hariri was a business man = making money is his priority of course he had to feed his dogs as well .....3ammar w 3allam ? Hay sar badda hela hela ho ......
Do i need to say more ?