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NewLeb

NewLeb

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Well they did good abroad ; in Africa and South America ; they made a lot of money.

Usually they are good traders but very few are able to make the transition from traditional traders to business men.

As for the christians; if they were that good we wouldn't witness the current financial collapse! As the christians are in control of the banking sector.
Certainly, but as you said, they made this money in contexts where modern Western economic mechanisms and controls were either nonexistent or severely lacking.

This isn’t to say that their money wasn’t well-earned, but as you pointed out, they never transitioned from the category of “trader” to “major business force to be reckoned with....”

This is why for instance we don’t really have Shiite equivalencies to major Christian Lebanese tycoons like Carlos Ghosn, who is known throughout the Western world (and East) of being a corporate genius....
 
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    AtheistForYeezus

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    Certainly, but as you said, they made this money in contexts where modern Western economic mechanisms and controls were either nonexistent or severely lacking.

    This isn’t to say that their money wasn’t well-earned, but as you pointed out, they never transitioned from the category of “trader” to “major business force to be reckoned with....”

    This is why for instance we don’t really have Shiite equivalencies to major Christian Lebanese tycoons like Carlos Ghosn, who is known throughout the Western world (and East) of being a corporate genius....
    They're basically con men.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Let us take into perspective and not forget that a US court once banned almanar from broadcasting to the US along with Press TV, and if I'm not mistaken even RT RT others. No one screamed about press freedom in Lebanon or in the US.

    But here in the jungle called Lebanon, a judge is resigning for acting as a judge in the interests of national security and restricting media houses from enabling a foreign diplomat to break diplomatic norms and interfere in our internal affairs and instigate strife. And these are the people calling for the resistance movement protecting the South, which is predominant by one community, to hand over its weapons to an army whose head is always and must always be from another community, even if I may not necessarily have a problem with him or with that at present.

    Basically, it is a sectarian demand to see the largest community in Lebanon humiliated and marginalised and see it surrender to other sects, made up of wicked demon possessed greedy leeches. That will never happen for as long as we all breath the same oxygen. We will hand over the weapons when there is or there can be a Shia as head of the army and there is or there can be a Shia figure as president in Baabda in a country based on citizenship and in a country for all Lebanese. Or at least, when it is allowed and accepted that a Shia and anyone from any community can become president, army commander and garbage collector without discrimination. But to hand over weapons to a sectarian lot of corrupt warlords is a wet dream that will never come to pass. Their corruption has made the hard earned deposits of Lebanese to evaporate. They want to use the same sectarianism and corruption to target a successful institution and its weapons, which have protected and defended the country successfully resisted a foreign enemy and which the entirely world pays attention to it. Dream on you wicked satans. You will die into the seventh generation and your wickedness will never prevail but would be trampled upon like dry sand.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Ok let's put my opinion aside, and the fact that the whole banking sector is against him now because he exposed them and he showed that every leader decided to sacrifice the whole population to safeguard the interest of the 1000 richest.

    - If the guy just got his french nationality, it's OK to ask.. but accusing him based on his ancestors is racist !
    It's more logical for you to suspect him based on his studies in France than his family name.

    - you have ministers in the government with an american passport, this doesn't mean anything.

    - He was backed during the Lahoud presidency because he was the man against Hariri and you can't easily remove a civil servant (he was later backed by FPM), and he's not really that backed, the guy wasn't allowed to even speak publicly

    - In all cases, his job comes under the ministry of finance responsibility, if there were any accusations against him, it was the minister's job to expose him and bring him to justice if needed.
    I really dont understand why you guys are going on the defensive. Is it a crime to ask of a civil servants family name and origin?
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Kill terrorists*

    Or, as I like to say, BBQ farareej, like Suleimani. Extra crispy
    Mutasahyen bala akhla2. The reason you will never have a footing in Lebanon. Never. All the marriage ceremonies, funerals, schools, etc. American warplanes strike is what?
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    Let us take into perspective and not forget that a US court once banned almanar from broadcasting to the US along with Press TV, and if I'm not mistaken even RT RT others. No one screamed about press freedom in Lebanon or in the US.

    But here in the jungle called Lebanon, a judge is resigning for acting as a judge in the interests of national security and restricting media houses from enabling a foreign diplomat to break diplomatic norms and interfere in our internal affairs and instigate strife. And these are the people calling for the resistance movement protecting the South, which is predominant by one community, to hand over its weapons to an army whose head is always and must always be from another community, even if I may not necessarily have a problem with him or with that at present.

    Basically, it is a sectarian demand to see the largest community in Lebanon humiliated and marginalised and see it surrender to other sects, made up of wicked demon possessed greedy leeches. That will never happen for as long as we all breath the same oxygen. We will hand over the weapons when there is or there can be a Shia as head of the army and there is or there can be a Shia figure as president in Baabda in a country based on citizenship and in a country for all Lebanese. Or at least, when it is allowed and accepted that a Shia and anyone from any community can become president, army commander and garbage collector without discrimination. But to hand over weapons to a sectarian lot of corrupt warlords is a wet dream that will never come to pass. Their corruption has made the hard earned deposits of Lebanese to evaporate. They want to use the same sectarianism and corruption to target a successful institution and its weapons, which have protected and defended the country successfully resisted a foreign enemy and which the entirely world pays attention to it. Dream on you wicked satans. You will die into the seventh generation and your wickedness will never prevail but would be trampled upon like dry sand.
    No one buys that you will hand over your weapons. They'll be taken from you against your will.

    In the meantime, enjoy the show!
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    Mutasahyen bala akhla2. The reason you will never have a footing in Lebanon. Never. All the marriage ceremonies, funerals, schools, etc. American warplanes strike is what?
    Collateral damage. It's hard knowing what's on the ground while sitting 3,000 miles away, eating hot Cheetos and drinking Pepsi. Mistakes happen, it's not the end of the world.
     
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    illusion84

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    They're basically con men.
    not really ; business or trade needs guts and cunning and an insight to the future.

    I know a guy that went from average to millionaire in a matter of few years... Of course he had the help of his family to get a capital ; but from there on he was on his own.

    A great guy ; easy to mingle with people; makes an impression within seconds; made exclusive deals with manufacturers in Europe (not China!) and now he is having a lavish life.

    Now he has christian genes in him :D ; don't know if it is his christian side that prevailed or his shia side ... But most probably his Shia side as all his uncles are in south America and all are successful...
     
    Steven Gerrard

    Steven Gerrard

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    why no electricity in Beirut since 830 am
    no desiel
    dollar sky high
    prices hitting the roof
    Ministers wants to resign
    is this on purpose
    drastic measures has to be done..take action now..enough
    Yesterday we only had around 2 hrs of electricity (dawle) the whole day.
     
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