Hassan Diab Government [IMF Negotiations Officially Underway]

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  • Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Hizbullahstan. Only the beginning baby.

    I personally can't wait for the religious police.
    Halla2 you want us to believe you are so much against religious or morality police and you are for human rights and freedom, yet, the very countries you fanatically support on this forum - namely the US and Israehell - are in bed with the most brutal dictatorship on earth which still chops off people's heads. You lack the moral high ground to be this critical of religious police or the bogeyman you are throwing at us. And lest we forget, the same brutal dictatorship has murdered it's own citizen in a consulate abroad, chopped him into pieces and dissolved him in acid without trace. And neither the US nor Israehell has voiced any criticism of that criminality. When the world's superpower is quiet for material gains about a head of state ordering the murder of a journalist in a consulate and after which his corpse was dissolved in acid beyond trace, do you think we are in a world that is better off than whoever you are going to criticize? It shows the world isnt safe for innocent people and anyone that can satisfy the US govt financially and politically can get away with absolutely any crime against humanity committed wherever.
     
    Danny Z

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    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    And lest we forget, the same brutal dictatorship has murdered it's own citizen in a consulate abroad, chopped him into pieces and dissolved him in acid without trace. And neither the US nor Israehell has voiced any criticism of that criminality.
    1. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, not a dictatorship.

    2. Your characterization of the issue is pure hyperbole. The US did indeed react strongly to the murder of Khashoggi, and Trump even considered sanctions. Your leaders on the other hand are very close to and fight alongside real murderous dictators. America clearly has the higher moral ground here.

    The reported killing created a bipartisan uproar in Congress, shaking the foundations of the close American-Saudi relationship with calls for suspension of military sales. Senior Republican senator Lindsey Graham's reaction was stern, as he said "there would be hell to pay" if Saudi is involved in the murder of Khashoggi. He further added, "If they're this brazen, it shows contempt. Contempt for everything we stand for, contempt for the relationship."[82]
    In a phone call with Crown Prince Mohammed on 11 November, Secretary of State Pompeo ″emphasized that the United States will hold all of those involved in the killing of Khashoggi accountable, and that Saudi Arabia must do the same″.[107][108]
     
    L'arbalette

    L'arbalette

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    THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WANTS MUCH MORE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE READY TO GIVE UP AND IF WE DO, HOW DONWE GUARANTEE WE WONT NEED ANYMORE HELP IN THE FUTURE?
    The worst culprits are not the international community, they are the Lebanese warlords (Joumblatt, Berri, etc.), the Hariri croonies (Sanioura, Mikati, etc.) and the entire system that enabled them, now with the very active and arrogant participation of Kan3an.

    The current "status quo" is the worst outcome possible, whatever is left from our deposit is used by the banks to placate their "biggest depositors", and when that money runs out, all the losses will be born by the depositors. Kan3an and his band of corrupt politicians are lying through their teeth when they say they are trying to "protect the depositors", they are doing the exact opposite.
     
    SAVO

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    the lebanese politician think that they can still black mail the banks regarding the refugees and the interest of europe of lebanon politically stable .
    while the west ask for radical political reform and transparency ....

    its not an acceptable way. and here better for hassan diab to listen instead of making the sab3 l borombo ...
     
    Walidos

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    And yo
    The worst culprits are not the international community, they are the Lebanese warlords (Joumblatt, Berri, etc.), the Hariri croonies (Sanioura, Mikati, etc.) and the entire system that enabled them, now with the very active and arrogant participation of Kan3an.

    The current "status quo" is the worst outcome possible, whatever is left from our deposit is used by the banks to placate their "biggest depositors", and when that money runs out, all the losses will be born by the depositors. Kan3an and his band of corrupt politicians are lying through their teeth when they say they are trying to "protect the depositors", they are doing the exact opposite.
    And to u say this Out of knowledge or wanting to vent?

    Please note I have no attachment to any of the people you mentioned, you can curse them day and night and it is likely still not as much as they deserve.
     
    Robin Hood

    Robin Hood

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    Why is Hassan Diab picking up a fight with France?

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    dyyyy

    dyyyy

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    Why is Hassan Diab picking up a fight with France?

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    I'm sure he didn't say anything remotely close to this, this is just media headlines to let some people cheer and satisfy their fantasies.
     
    dyyyy

    dyyyy

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    And to u say this Out of knowledge or wanting to vent?
    man you don't need to be an expert in economy, if you have dollars in the bank, their value is much less than you actually have. that's it. every talk about about protecting the deposits is a lie. anyone can make a thesis about it, they can use as much jargons as they want. as long as you can't retrieve your dollars at their actual value, it means it's not protected.


    FYI :
    1- It's illegal for banks to not give you your current account in the same currency that you put them in (some time ago they tried to make it seem that they only have to give it in the official currency its not true)

    2-The bank owners are accountable of سوء أمانة for losing people's deposits and bank bank shareholders are accountable with their own money (unlike a normal instutition)

    3-The banks are the ones who lent money to the state, not the depositors, they're the ones who should lose not the depositors.


    In lebanon this is what happened :
    the banks took an interest rate of 25% on the loan of the state (because of the high risk)
    billionaires took 15% interests (because of the high risk and instability of the lebanese economy)
    millionaires took 7% interest(because of the high risk and instability of the lebanese economy)
    and average people took from 0 to 5 from rheir salaries, current accounts and small savings.

    Guess who's the one paying now for the loss of the risk?
     
    Robin Hood

    Robin Hood

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    I'm sure he didn't say anything remotely close to this, this is just media headlines to let some people cheer and satisfy their fantasies.
    He did attack Le Drian on Tuesday.

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    dyyyy

    dyyyy

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    He did attack Le Drian on Tuesday.

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    You're referring to this :
    رئيس حكومة لبنان ولا اسمح لك باعطائي التعليمات فيما يجب القيام به .. انا لست سعد الحريري لأنفذ تعليماتك
    ?
     
    Walidos

    Walidos

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    man you don't need to be an expert in economy, if you have dollars in the bank, their value is much less than you actually have. that's it. every talk about about protecting the deposits is a lie. anyone can make a thesis about it, they can use as much jargons as they want. as long as you can't retrieve your dollars at their actual value, it means it's not protected.


    FYI :
    1- It's illegal for banks to not give you your current account in the same currency that you put them in (some time ago they tried to make it seem that they only have to give it in the official currency its not true)

    2-The bank owners are accountable of سوء أمانة for losing people's deposits and bank bank shareholders are accountable with their own money (unlike a normal instutition)

    3-The banks are the ones who lent money to the state, not the depositors, they're the ones who should lose not the depositors.


    In lebanon this is what happened :
    the banks took an interest rate of 25% on the loan of the state (because of the high risk)
    billionaires took 15% interests (because of the high risk and instability of the lebanese economy)
    millionaires took 7% interest(because of the high risk and instability of the lebanese economy)
    and average people took from 0 to 5 from rheir salaries, current accounts and small savings.

    Guess who's the one paying now for the loss of the risk?
    How is what you are saying different from what every populist politician saying?
     
    dyyyy

    dyyyy

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    How is what you are saying different from what every populist politician saying?
    I'm saying things exactly the way they are ? what is populist about it ? actually politicians are saying exactly the opposite "no haircut!" "free economy!" "banking sector!" which doesn't have any actual meaning
     
    Manifesto

    Manifesto

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    From Bachir Gemayel, Elie Hobeika, Samir Geagea, to Jocelyne Khoueiry... no one glorifies criminals better than the Maronites. Jens 3atil w namroud.

     
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