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Isabella

Isabella

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These studies include the juice/smoothies available in supermarkets! I for example find it hard to eat 5 fruits a day (which is the "healthy" daily quota) but I do drink one juice on a daily basis apple carrot beetroots and ginger, 2 apples one carrot a bit of beetroot and a bit of ginger, no added sugars! I personally don't think it's that bad, I had an iron deficiency and it helped me get healthy! I hate the taste of some fruits, and the ones I like are only available in summer, so I basically swear by this :p
 
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    Booyakasha

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    These studies include the juice/smoothies available in supermarkets! I for example find it hard to eat 5 fruits a day (which is the "healthy" daily quota) but I do drink one juice on a daily basis apple carrot beetroots and ginger, 2 apples one carrot a bit of beetroot and a bit of ginger, no added sugars!
    No they don't. Check the first article. You don't need to ADD sugar to two pressed apples to get sugar as fructose is already in there.
     
    Isabella

    Isabella

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    No they don't. Check the first article. You don't need to ADD sugar to two pressed apples to get sugar as fructose is already in there.
    What and if you eat them the sugar is gone? Same crap! Don't take away my juice! Evil monster
     
    Booyakasha

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    What and if you eat them the sugar is gone? Same crap! Don't take away my juice! Evil monster
    If you eat them you won't eat as much as you do when you press them hence less sugar. Drop that glass now!
     
    Indie

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    Any pressed juice contains very high amounts of sugar. The solid form gets you full in order to avoid overeating. You feel full after eating an apple, but pressing 5 apples into a juice still leaves way for you to eat more. Yes the pressed juices contain fructose and not glucose/sucrose but your liver will kind of overdose on it anyway.

    More here:


    Smoothies and fruit juices are a new risk to health, US scientists warn
    Scientists say potential damage from naturally occurring fructose in apparently healthy drinks is being overlooked
    Smoothies and fruit juices are a new risk to health, US scientists warn | Society | The Guardian

    Fruit juices and smoothies represent a new risk to our health because of the amount of sugar the apparently healthy drinks contain, warn the US scientists who blew the whistle on corn syrup in soft drinks a decade ago.

    Barry Popkin and George Bray pointed the finger at high fructose corn syrup in soft drinks in 2004, causing a huge headache for the big manufacturers, includingCoca-Cola and Pepsi.

    "Smoothies and fruit juice are the new danger," said Popkin, a distinguished professor at the department of nutrition at the University of North Carolina, in an interview with the Guardian.

    He added: "It's kind of the next step in the evolution of the battle. And it's a really big part of it because in every country they've been replacing soft drinks with fruit juice and smoothies as the new healthy beverage. So you will find that Coke and Pepsi have bought dozens [of fruit juice companies] around the globe."

    In the UK, Coca-Cola owns Innocent smoothies while PepsiCo has Tropicana. Launching Tropicana smoothies in 2008, Pepsi's sales pitch was that the drink would help the nation to reach its five a day fruit and vegetable target. "Smoothies are one of the easiest ways to boost daily fruit intake as each 250ml portion contains the equivalent of 2 fruit portions," it said at the time.

    However, Popkin says the five a day advice needs to change. Drink vegetable juice, he says, but not fruit juice. "Think of eating one orange or two and getting filled," he said. "Now think of drinking a smoothie with six oranges and two hours later it does not affect how much you eat. The entire literature shows that we feel full from drinking beverages like smoothies but it does not affect our overall food intake, whereas eating an orange does. So pulped-up smoothies do nothing good for us but do give us the same amount of sugar as four to six oranges or a large coke. It is deceiving."

    Nine years ago the two scientists had identified sugar-sweetened soft drinks, full of calories and consumed between meals, as a major cause of soaring obesity in developed countries. But they argue that as people change their drinking habits to avoid carbonated soft drinks, the potential damage from naturally occurring fructose in fruit juices and smoothies is being overlooked.

    All sugars are equal in their bad effects, says Popkin – even those described on cereal snack bars sold in health food shops as containing "completely natural" sweeteners. "The most important issue about added sugar is that everybody thinks it's cane sugar or maybe beet sugar or HFC syrup or all the other syrups but globally the cheapest thing on the market almost is fruit juice concentrate coming out of China. It has created an overwhelming supply of apple juice concentrate. It is being used everywhere and it also gets around the sugar quotas that lots of countries have."

    In a survey of sweeteners in US food products between 2005 and 2009 for a paper published in 2012, Popkin and colleagues found that fruit juice concentrate was the fifth most common sugar overall and the second most common, after corn syrup, in soft drinks and in babies' formula milk.

    More studies need to be done before governments and health bodies around the world will take notice. There are only two really good long-term trials – one in Singapore and one by Harvard, he says. "But all the long term studies on fruit juice in anything show the same kind of effect whether it's a smoothie or natural [juice] and whether it's a diabetes or weight gain effect," Popkin added.

    Further evidence supporting the theory came last week from a study published by the British Medical Association. Researchers from the UK, USA and Singapore found that, in large-scale studies involving nurses, people who ate whole fruit, especially blueberries, grapes and apples, were less likely to get type 2 diabetes, which is obesity-related, but those who drank fruit juice were at increased risk. People who swapped their fruit juice for whole fruits three times a week cut their risk by 7%.

    Most of the attention from those concerned about growing obesity levels among children is still on soft drinks with added sugar, such as colas and lemonade, which are consumed in enormous quantities. In 2012 we drank nearly 227 litres of liquid each in the UK, according to the industry, which says 61% of those had no added sugar. Excluding water brings the "no added sugar" total to 54%. Fruit juices and smoothies are also included in the total. We each drank 17.6 litres of those.

    British health campaigners are calling for a soft drinks tax in the UK. In January Sustain published its Children's Future Fund report, saying that £1bn a year could be raised from a tax of 20p a litre and invested in children's health programmes. It has been backed by more than 60 organisations and the first children's commissioner, Al Aynsley-Green, gave his support. In February the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges also called for the tax in its obesity report.

    The British Soft Drinks Association says that consumption of soft drinks containing added sugar has fallen by 9% over the last 10 years, while the incidence of obesity has risen by 15%. "Obesity is a serious and complex problem requiring concerted action by a wide range of organisations as well as by people themselves. Soft drinks companies recognise the role they have to play," it said. Companies were reducing the calorie content of their drinks. PepsiCo, it said, had only advertised the no added sugar variants of its soft drinks since 2005.

    Innocent Smoothies claims that people who drink juice have better diets and lower rates of obesity than others, although the studies it cited had funding from the juice industry.

    "Smoothies are made entirely from fruit and therefore contain the same amount of sugars that you would find in an equivalent amount of whole fruit," it said in a statement.

    Meanwhile, efforts by the soft drinks companies to grow the market continue. Coca-Cola in the UK this year declared its ambition to increase the market by £2.1bn by 2017, identifying six "moments" in the day when we could be persuaded to buy more soft drinks, including fruit juice and smoothies for breakfast and soft drinks for children when they come home from school. Sales of sweetened Coca-Cola, containing nine teaspoons of sugar in a standard can, still outstrip those of Diet Coke and Zero Coke combined.

    "Unless Coca-Cola drastically reduces its marketing for sugary drinks, its strategy to reach more people more often will mean that it pumps record levels of sugar into our diets," said Charlie Powell, campaigns director of Sustain.

    "This is a business model that is unhealthy and unsustainable, perfectly highlighting the 'profit versus public health' conflict of interest endemic in the sugary drinks industry."

    Coca-Cola argues that taxes do not change behaviour and that sugar should not be vilified. In a statement, it said: "We believe that rather than single out any ingredient, it is more helpful for people to look at their total energy balance. This is because obesity and weight gain are caused by an imbalance in calories consumed and burnt off. Our products should be enjoyed as part of a sensible, balanced diet and healthy lifestyle that includes regular physical activity.

    "For those that are watching their calorie intake, we offer a wide range of low or no calorie options, which represent more than one third of our sales."

    In an article this year in the journal Pediatric Obesity, Bray and Popkin review the issue 10 years on from their famous paper. "The concern with HFCS in our diet has led to a reduced proportion of HFCS in beverages compared to other sugars," they say, but add "this is a misplaced shift … fructose remains a major component of our global diet. To date, to the best of our knowledge every added amount of fructose – be it from fruit juice, sugar-sweetened beverages or any other beverage or even from foods with high sugar content – adds equally to our health concerns linked with this food component."
    The article makes no mention of smoothies made at home. It focuses on smoothies produced, packaged, and sold by companies like Coca-cola. I already mentioned in my first post that many companies making smoothies add ice cream or sugar to their recipes, which defeats the health benefits.

    However, there is one part of the article that could apply, even to home-made smoothies. It's the claim that eating a certain amount of fruits fills you up more than drinking the same amount in a smoothie.

    Personally, I find smoothies to be quite filling. But I'll pay more attention to this and see if drinking smoothies tends to raise my calorie intake.
    Some studies make a claim contrary to this one: that liquid food, such as soup, is more filling that the same food in solid form.

    Also, I forget if I read this somewhere, or saw a documentary about it, but a nutrition scientist or doctor said that the main cause of obesity is the simplest one: unlike our ancestors, we have too much food. It's everywhere, making it difficult to resist.

    This makes sense. It's one thing to drink a smoothie as the replacement of a snack or small meal. It's another thing to consider it a "drink" that accompanies your meal. Or one that doesn't "count" as far as your calorie and nutrient intake.
     
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    Isabella

    Isabella

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    If you eat them you won't eat as much as you do when you press them hence less sugar. Drop that glass now!
    2 apples, a carrot and half a beetroot a day is far less than the daily recommended quota of fruits and vegetables! And that's all I have! One juice in the morning :p! Only 3 small meals for the rest of the day including a salad! And some nuts here and there, occasionally coconuts when i'm in the mood of chopping one up! Or coconut water in the afternoon

    Edit: also 5 pieces of dark chocolate, do not take away my chocolate! Or my coffee! Switched to 70% dark because it's "healthier", but I'm an addict -.-
     
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    Indie

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    Fruit juices and smoothies contain 'horrifying' sugar levels
    As I said, they are talking about commercial juices and smoothies. Not home-made ones.

    A survey of 50 products from supermarkets, coffee shops and food outlets found that more than half contained at least six teaspoons of sugar, which is the recommended daily limit.
    The Telegraph carried out a survey of 50 fruit juices, smoothies and other fruit-based drinks on sale at a series of supermarkets, high-street shops and food outlets.
    This, however, is something to consider.

    It warns that such drinks can damage teeth because sugar that would otherwise be contained within the structure of whole fruit is released when the fruit is juiced or blended.
     
    Isabella

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    As I said, they are talking about commercial juices and smoothies. Not home-made ones.





    This, however, is something to consider.
    However sugar is good for the skin :)

    I have a brown sugar/coconut oil scrub that I use on my body, I also swear by it! Plus it's really cheap, keeps you hydrated and it smells delicious!
     
    Indie

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    However sugar is good for the skin :)

    I have a brown sugar/coconut oil scrub that I use on my body, I also swear by it! Plus it's really cheap, keeps you hydrated and it smells delicious!
    It's the healthy recipes thread...so you can post it :p
     
    Isabella

    Isabella

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    However sugar is good for the skin :)

    I have a brown sugar/coconut oil scrub that I use on my body, I also swear by it! Plus it's really cheap, keeps you hydrated and it smells delicious!
    I used a different recipe, can't seem to find it but here's another one

    coconut oil sugar scrubs


    To say I’m obsessed with these homemade coconut oil sugar scrubs is an understatement. My skin has never felt so soft before…or smelled so delicious!



    Reasons you should lather up with Trader Joe’s organic virgin coconut oil ASAP:

    • Your skin will look, feel, and smell better than ever before.
    • One simple coconut oil sugar scrub can be your face wash, exfoliator, eye make-up remover, and moisturizer all-in-one!
    • You’ll save money over store-bought products.
    • When you make your own skincare products, you will know exactly what’s in them.
    • You can help save the environment by storing your coconut oil products in containers that can be used over and over again.
    To get started, check out my favorite homemade coconut oil lotions. (I’m so in love with them that I packaged up 18 cute little jars in this step-by-step tutorial with free printable gift tags to give to my family and friends for Christmas.)

    You’re also gonna go bananas over this super-simple “recipe” for homemade coconut oil sugar scrubs.

    Homemade Coconut Oil Sugar Scrubs
    Ingredients
    • 1/4 cup granulated sugar (You can use up to 1/2 cup if you want your scrub to have a more coarse, sand-like texture.)
    • 1/2 cup coconut oil (I use Trader Joe’s organic virgin coconut oil.)
    • Optional>> 1 tablespoon citrus fruit zest (The zest from one piece of fruit.) (I’ve tried grapefruit, lemon, and orange.) OR
    • Optional>> About 1/2 teaspoon of citrus essential oil (about 50 drops) (I’ve tried certified organic grapefruit, lemon, and orangeessential oils.)
    Directions
    • Combine all ingredients. (Unlike my homemade coconut oil lotions, I do not recommend heating the coconut oil prior to mixing, because hot oil will dissolve the sugar.)


    To Use
    • On your face – Omit the citrus and use the basic scrub at the sink or in the shower. Massage in circular motions for 30 seconds. Rinse and pat dry. The oil will absorb immediately.
    • On your hands – Massage into your hands and fingernails for 30 seconds. Rinse and pat dry.
    • On your legs and feet – Massage into your legs and feet while in the bath or sitting on the side of the bathtub. Rinse and pat dry. (Never use on your feet in the shower because the coconut oil is slippery and you risk falling.)


    Pros/Cons of Adding Citrus
    • Pro: Adding any kind of citrus will make your scrub smell great.
    • Pro: Citrus can boost your mood and make you feel energized and refreshed.
    • Con: Citrus can burn your eyes, so it can’t be used on your face. (Perfect for your hands, legs, and feet though!)
    • Con: Citrus can increase your skin’s sensitivity to the to sun, so you’ll want to wear sunscreen after using citrus scrubs. (Coconut oil acts as a natural sunscreen, but I’m not sure if it’s strong enough to cancel out the effects of the citrus.)
    Citrus Fruit Zest vs Citrus Essential Oils
    • If you’re new to the world of essential oils, citrus essential oils are all-natural oils extracted right from the fruit peels themselves.
    • Citrus essential oils will give your sugar scrub a longer shelf life than a sugar scrub made with zest.
    • Citrus fruit zest will add a pretty color to your scrub. (Essential oils are colorless.) Plus you can eat the fruit after zesting. YUM.


    I added lavender and aloe vera to my scrub I'll try to find that recipe again
     
    Booyakasha

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    However sugar is good for the skin :)

    I have a brown sugar/coconut oil scrub that I use on my body, I also swear by it! Plus it's really cheap, keeps you hydrated and it smells delicious!
    As I said, they are talking about commercial juices and smoothies. Not home-made ones.





    This, however, is something to consider.
    Did you even read the first article I posted? Here's the important snippets.

    However, Popkin says the five a day advice needs to change. Drink vegetable juice, he says, but not fruit juice. "Think of eating one orange or two and getting filled," he said. "Now think of drinking a smoothie with six oranges and two hours later it does not affect how much you eat. The entire literature shows that we feel full from drinking beverages like smoothies but it does not affect our overall food intake, whereas eating an orange does. So pulped-up smoothies do nothing good for us but do give us the same amount of sugar as four to six oranges or a large coke. It is deceiving."

    Nine years ago the two scientists had identified sugar-sweetened soft drinks, full of calories and consumed between meals, as a major cause of soaring obesity in developed countries. But they argue that as people change their drinking habits to avoid carbonated soft drinks, the potential damage from naturally occurring fructose in fruit juices and smoothies is being overlooked.


    Further evidence supporting the theory came last week from a study published by the British Medical Association. Researchers from the UK, USA and Singapore found that, in large-scale studies involving nurses, people who ate whole fruit, especially blueberries, grapes and apples, were less likely to get type 2 diabetes, which is obesity-related, but those who drank fruit juice were at increased risk. People who swapped their fruit juice for whole fruits three times a week cut their risk by 7%.

    Further evidence supporting the theory came last week from a study published by the British Medical Association. Researchers from the UK, USA and Singapore found that, in large-scale studies involving nurses, people who ate whole fruit, especially blueberries, grapes and apples, were less likely to get type 2 diabetes, which is obesity-related, but those who drank fruit juice were at increased risk. People who swapped their fruit juice for whole fruits three times a week cut their risk by 7%.



    The problem is not juices bought in supermarkets or not. The problem is with the juice. I used to drink loads of it. The documentary and a book But go make/buy a super healthy smoothie or juice made 100% from pressed fruits and see the crazy amounts of sugar. There's c40% sugar in orange juice - it being in fructose form doesn't alter the fact that it can be damaging as fructose is processed by the liver. Nature made fruits the way they are with fiber to feel full and avoid overeating sugar. Humans take the sugar/juice out and throw the fruit away.

    Here's a website I found just by typing sugar in juice
    HookedOnJuice.com :: Sugar and Fruit Juice Nutrition Information Facts

    Look at the chart - 4g of sugar = 1 tablespoon:
    12 ounces is 340ML so a small can - you have 10 freaking tablespoons of sugar in pure apple juice.

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    Another article - don't resist information

    Are fruit juices dangerous for your health? - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

    Note that I have cut down on sugar in the past 6m and have never felt healthier. It even stops your boom and bust energy cycles.
     
    Isabella

    Isabella

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    Did you even read the first article I posted? Here's the important snippets.

    However, Popkin says the five a day advice needs to change. Drink vegetable juice, he says, but not fruit juice. "Think of eating one orange or two and getting filled," he said. "Now think of drinking a smoothie with six oranges and two hours later it does not affect how much you eat. The entire literature shows that we feel full from drinking beverages like smoothies but it does not affect our overall food intake, whereas eating an orange does. So pulped-up smoothies do nothing good for us but do give us the same amount of sugar as four to six oranges or a large coke. It is deceiving."

    Nine years ago the two scientists had identified sugar-sweetened soft drinks, full of calories and consumed between meals, as a major cause of soaring obesity in developed countries. But they argue that as people change their drinking habits to avoid carbonated soft drinks, the potential damage from naturally occurring fructose in fruit juices and smoothies is being overlooked.


    Further evidence supporting the theory came last week from a study published by the British Medical Association. Researchers from the UK, USA and Singapore found that, in large-scale studies involving nurses, people who ate whole fruit, especially blueberries, grapes and apples, were less likely to get type 2 diabetes, which is obesity-related, but those who drank fruit juice were at increased risk. People who swapped their fruit juice for whole fruits three times a week cut their risk by 7%.

    Further evidence supporting the theory came last week from a study published by the British Medical Association. Researchers from the UK, USA and Singapore found that, in large-scale studies involving nurses, people who ate whole fruit, especially blueberries, grapes and apples, were less likely to get type 2 diabetes, which is obesity-related, but those who drank fruit juice were at increased risk. People who swapped their fruit juice for whole fruits three times a week cut their risk by 7%.



    The problem is not juices bought in supermarkets or not. The problem is with the juice. I used to drink loads of it. The documentary and a book But go make/buy a super healthy smoothie or juice made 100% from pressed fruits and see the crazy amounts of sugar. There's c40% sugar in orange juice - it being in fructose form doesn't alter the fact that it can be damaging as fructose is processed by the liver. Nature made fruits the way they are with fiber to feel full and avoid overeating sugar. Humans take the sugar/juice out and throw the fruit away.

    Here's a website I found just by typing sugar in juice
    HookedOnJuice.com :: Sugar and Fruit Juice Nutrition Information Facts

    Look at the chart - 4g of sugar = 1 tablespoon:
    12 ounces is 340ML so a small can - you have 10 freaking tablespoons of sugar in pure apple juice.

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    Another article - don't resist information

    Are fruit juices dangerous for your health? - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

    Note that I have cut down on sugar in the past 6m and have never felt healthier. It even stops your boom and bust energy cycles.
    All of these freaking health articles piss me off! If juices are unhealthy then fruits are unhealthy! I'm talking about a homemade juice here using a juice extractor, skin and pulp stay on and get juiced! Really it takes me about a week to empty the dump (now of course I wash my juicer as soon as I'm done but yeah it takes like a week of daily use to fill it) relatively little waste! And the recipe I talked about the 2 apples 1 carrot half a small beet fills a half litre cup! It's almost like you're eating the fruit minus the grain!

    I'm sorry but if you're saying that fruits and vegetables are unhealthy I have every right not to listen to you! Human beings survived for thousands of years on a vegetarian diet before they invented or discovered fire and started cooking their meat!

    High in sugar! Jeez! when did fructose naturally found in fruits become bad! It takes 4 apples to fill a cup with a bad juicer, fine! Don't consume anything other than that!

    I'm sorry but I like wine, I like juice, I like chocolate, and I like coffee! I don't give a rat's ass if they'll kill me! I can stay away from Palm oil, saturated fats and all that other crap! But I want to freaking enjoy my life on this planet! And looking at these ridiculous documentaries that pop up every second and these health nut articles every day it seems like I need to stop eating altogether! Consume everything in moderation and pay no attention to the nay sayers! That's my policy in life!

    You can remove all the sugar in your diet, I'll raise a glass of wine honoring you :) along with its 2% sugar content!
     
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    All of these freaking health articles piss me off! If juices are unhealthy then fruits are unhealthy! I'm talking about a homemade juice here using a juice extractor, skin and pulp stay on and get juiced! Really it takes me about a week to empty the dump (now of course I wash my juicer as soon as I'm done but yeah it takes like a week of daily use to fill it) relatively little waste! And the recipe I talked about the 2 apples 1 carrot half a small beet fills a half litre cup! It's almost like you're eating the fruit minus the grain!

    I'm sorry but if you're saying that fruits and vegetables are unhealthy I have every right not to listen to you! Human beings survived for thousands of years on a vegetarian diet before they invented or discovered fire and started cooking their meat!

    High in sugar! Jeez! when did fructose naturally found in fruits become bad! It takes 4 apples to fill a cup with a bad juicer, fine! Don't consume anything other than that!

    I'm sorry but I like wine, I like juice, I like chocolate, and I like coffee! I don't give a rat's ass if they'll kill me! I can stay away from Palm oil, saturated fats and all that other crap! But I want to freaking enjoy my life on this planet! And looking at these ridiculous documentaries that pop up every second and these health nut articles every day it seems like I need to stop eating altogether! Consume everything in moderation and pay no attention to the nay sayers! That's my policy in life!

    You can remove all the sugar in your diet, I'll raise a glass of wine honoring you :) along with its 2% sugar content!
    Again, you're missing the point and you're attributing wrong statements to me.

    "I'm sorry but if you're saying that fruits and vegetables are unhealthy I have every right not to listen to you! Human beings survived for thousands of years on a vegetarian diet before they invented or discovered fire and started cooking their meat!"

    Where did you see me say fruits and vegetables are unhealthy? They are not.
    It is clear that fruits have high amounts of sugar and that if one makes a smoothie or a juice you're mostly taking in a big amount of concentrated sugar. Sucking out the sugar out of fruits to eat them is the unhealthy thing.

    Ok you take in small amounts in the smoothie you described but consider this:

    300mL of orange JUICE (that you can drink in one go) has 33g of sugar - this is the equivalent of 8.5 teaspoons of SUGAR in one go. So don't tell me about humans for thousands of years because back then they didn't have juicers and mixers. Sugar is addictive, can cause mood swings and fructose albeit not as bad as glucose/sucrose can still lead to excessive work from your liver.

    If you're saying everything should be consumed in moderation I cannot more than agree, but juices are not moderation as you basically concentrate MANY pieces of fruit, that normally you wouldn't be able to eat unpressed, to drink in one go.

    Read this book:

    Sweet Nothing: Amazon.co.uk: Nicole Mowbray: 9781409154846: Books

    Two years ago Nicole Mowbray gave up sugar and the effects were astonishing. It changed her life, her body, her relationships, her face and her health. Now sugar is under fire and firmly in the dietary spotlight - the World Health Organisation have lowered the recommended daily intake and Britain's chief medical officer Dame Sally Davies has raised the idea that sugar may even be addictive. Nicole's book - part memoir, part guide - will help people to give up sugar. She interviews experts, including nutritionists, cardiologists, and psychologists, to back up the science and explore the link between sugar, validation and our emotions. Nicole shares with readers how she did it, why they should, what they can expect and how they can do it - with recipes, expert tips and help along the way. This book will tell you what to kick and what to keep and how not to fall into the secret sugar traps.
     
    Isabella

    Isabella

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    Again, you're missing the point and you're attributing wrong statements to me.

    "I'm sorry but if you're saying that fruits and vegetables are unhealthy I have every right not to listen to you! Human beings survived for thousands of years on a vegetarian diet before they invented or discovered fire and started cooking their meat!"

    Where did you see me say fruits and vegetables are unhealthy? They are not.
    It is clear that fruits have high amounts of sugar and that if one makes a smoothie or a juice you're mostly taking in a big amount of concentrated sugar. Sucking out the sugar out of fruits to eat them is the unhealthy thing.

    Ok you take in small amounts in the smoothie you described but consider this:

    300mL of orange JUICE (that you can drink in one go) has 33g of sugar - this is the equivalent of 8.5 teaspoons of SUGAR in one go. So don't tell me about humans for thousands of years because back then they didn't have juicers and mixers. Sugar is addictive, can cause mood swings and fructose albeit not as bad as glucose/sucrose can still lead to excessive work from your liver.

    If you're saying everything should be consumed in moderation I cannot more than agree, but juices are not moderation as you basically concentrate MANY pieces of fruit, that normally you wouldn't be able to eat unpressed, to drink in one go.

    Read this book:

    Sweet Nothing: Amazon.co.uk: Nicole Mowbray: 9781409154846: Books

    Two years ago Nicole Mowbray gave up sugar and the effects were astonishing. It changed her life, her body, her relationships, her face and her health. Now sugar is under fire and firmly in the dietary spotlight - the World Health Organisation have lowered the recommended daily intake and Britain's chief medical officer Dame Sally Davies has raised the idea that sugar may even be addictive. Nicole's book - part memoir, part guide - will help people to give up sugar. She interviews experts, including nutritionists, cardiologists, and psychologists, to back up the science and explore the link between sugar, validation and our emotions. Nicole shares with readers how she did it, why they should, what they can expect and how they can do it - with recipes, expert tips and help along the way. This book will tell you what to kick and what to keep and how not to fall into the secret sugar traps.
    Okay I get it sugar = bad! No one is arguing over that point! What about l mrabba Bass :p it has existed for a long time :p! Not only do you have the fructose heavily concentrated in jams and jellies, but you also have a very high dose of sugar! There's a new trend now sweetening with honey or maple syrup, but still sugaaarrrr!!!

    Anyway you can't really avoid sugar! Juice is under fire for natural sugar, what about every other food you eat? There's sugar in everything lol! You can cut back on your daily intake of artificial sweetners and whatnot but you cannot really avoid sugar! If you eat 5 fruits a day, you're taking the same amount of sugar I have in my juice, I even have slightly less lol!

    The other point in this article, sugar is addictive, no sh!t! Lol I used to eat spoonfuls of sugar when I was a kid and my mom would go nuts lol! My teeth were strangely healthy though never had a cavity :)

    The mood swings are already present as well! I enjoy eating an eclair or a donut or French toast or crepes or whatever! I love chocolate, especially love it for 3 days every month lol! Sugar is unhealthy whatever I know it is! That's not gonna stop me from enjoying a piece of brownie :p or maybe a homemade tiramissu!

    The point is Booyakasha, one juice a day would not kill anyone! I'm not advising people to go on a juice diet or whatever the new fad is! (seriously juice diet? Are you freaking kidding me?) nor am I telling people to lay off carbs or proteins (remember when carbs were evil and fat was good? Atkins thank you very much for that crazy diet) I'm not even telling people to stop consuming gluten! Everything should be consumed in moderation! There's some research showing that eating a dessert with your breakfast helps in boosting your energy for the rest of the day, and even promotes weight loss!

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120625125050.htm

    Nothing is evil! Fat is not evil, protein, carbs, gluten, sugar etc. Just consume everything in moderation and allow yourself a taste once in a while!
     
    Booyakasha

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    Okay I get it sugar = bad! No one is arguing over that point! What about l mrabba Bass :p it has existed for a long time :p! Not only do you have the fructose heavily concentrated in jams and jellies, but you also have a very high dose of sugar! There's a new trend now sweetening with honey or maple syrup, but still sugaaarrrr!!!

    Anyway you can't really avoid sugar! Juice is under fire for natural sugar, what about every other food you eat? There's sugar in everything lol! You can cut back on your daily intake of artificial sweetners and whatnot but you cannot really avoid sugar! If you eat 5 fruits a day, you're taking the same amount of sugar I have in my juice, I even have slightly less lol!

    The other point in this article, sugar is addictive, no sh!t! Lol I used to eat spoonfuls of sugar when I was a kid and my mom would go nuts lol! My teeth were strangely healthy though never had a cavity :)

    The mood swings are already present as well! I enjoy eating an eclair or a donut or French toast or crepes or whatever! I love chocolate, especially love it for 3 days every month lol! Sugar is unhealthy whatever I know it is! That's not gonna stop me from enjoying a piece of brownie :p or maybe a homemade tiramissu!

    The point is Booyakasha, one juice a day would not kill anyone! I'm not advising people to go on a juice diet or whatever the new fad is! (seriously juice diet? Are you freaking kidding me?) nor am I telling people to lay off carbs or proteins (remember when carbs were evil and fat was good? Atkins thank you very much for that crazy diet) I'm not even telling people to stop consuming gluten! Everything should be consumed in moderation! There's some research showing that eating a dessert with your breakfast helps in boosting your energy for the rest of the day, and even promotes weight loss!

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120625125050.htm

    Nothing is evil! Fat is not evil, protein, carbs, gluten, sugar etc. Just consume everything in moderation and allow yourself a taste once in a while!
    Drinking 5 fruits is not the same as eating 5 fruits 1) because eating 5 fruits is almost impossible 2) the 5 fruits a day myth is being revised down by most reasonable health authorities and 3) pressing an orange leaves most of the good stuff out.

    So yes your smoothie with 1-2 whole fruits is fine, but smoothies in general where you have 3-4 apples, 1-2 oranges are definitely not healthy.

    Regarding the other foods with sugar, I always check how much sugar there is along with saturated fat and keep both down. They're as bad as each other.
     
    Big Brother

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    @Indie, I realize this may not be the most optimal time to post in this thread... buuut,

    I am trying to get in better shape for upcoming strenuous hikes in December and can use some healthy recipes.

    I am looking for low-carb, high-protein recipes that are easy to make and do not take a lot of time to prepare. My schedule is kind of hectic, leaving little time for cooking and getting creative.

    Feel free to share some healthy recipes (and links with a lot of em too!)
     
    Indie

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    @Indie, I realize this may not be the most optimal time to post in this thread... buuut,

    I am trying to get in better shape for upcoming strenuous hikes in December and can use some healthy recipes.

    I am looking for low-carb, high-protein recipes that are easy to make and do not take a lot of time to prepare. My schedule is kind of hectic, leaving little time for cooking and getting creative.

    Feel free to share some healthy recipes (and links with a lot of em too!)


    ...

    No wait...something was distracting me :p
     
    Indie

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    Avocado Egg
    Slice avocado in half and take out the large pit. Crack an egg into the created dip and bake until the egg whites are cooked and the yolk is at a desired firmness. Sprinkle atop with green onions, diced tomatoes, and a dollop of plain Greek yogurt. Drizzle with hot sauce if craving a little spice!
     
    Indie

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    Bell Pepper Nachos

    Ingredients

    • 1 pound lean ground turkey (or chicken, or meat)
    • 1 teaspoons chili powder
    • 1 teaspoon cumin
    • 1/2 teaspoon black pepper
    • 1/4 teaspoon kosher or sea salt
    • 3/4 cup salsa, no sugar added
    • 1 cup grated cheddar cheese, reduced-fat
    • 3 bell peppers

    Directions

    Remove seeds, core, and membrane from bell peppers then slice each one into 6 verticle pieces where they dip down. Set sliced bell peppers aside.

    Cook ground turkey over medium-high heat, breaking up as it cooks. Cook until the turkey loses it's pink color and is cooked through. Drain off any fat.

    Preheat oven to 375 degrees.

    Combine cooked turkey with spices and salsa. Evenly distribute mixture into the bell pepper boats, top with cheese. Bake on a parchment lined baking sheet for 10 minutes or until cheese is melted and peppers are hot.

    Remove from the oven and add additional toppings, If desired.

    Optional ingredients: sliced Jalepeno peppers, diced avocado, fat-free Greek yogurt or sour cream, or sliced green onions.
     
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