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J. Abizeid

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Swedish Court Confirms Arrest Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder

Who’s the real criminal?


The case of Alleged Sex Crimes vs. Confirmed War Crimes
Assange vs. Bush



December 2, 2010​

Swedish Court Confirms Arrest Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder

LONDON — Sweden’s highest court refused on Thursday to allow Julian Assange, the founder of the WikiLeaks whistle-blowing organization, to appeal a court order seeking his arrest to face questioning over alleged sex crimes, his lawyer and said.
In a telephone interview, Mark Stephens, Mr. Assange’s lawyer in Britain, said the ruling by the Stockholm court exhausted his client’s legal options in trying to overturn the arrest order in Sweden, where the offenses are alleged to have taken place. Thursday’s ruling came a day after Interpol, the global police body, said it had been circulating a so-called Red Notice seeking Mr. Assange’s arrest for almost two weeks. Reuters quoted Kerstin Norman, a Swedish High Court official, as saying the ruling meant that earlier warrants for Mr. Assange’s arrest were still in force.
In a statement issued from its headquarters in the French city of Lyon, Interpol said on Wednesday that it had issued its call on Nov. 20, two days after Swedish prosecutors won court approval for a warrant that Interpol could circulate, and that it had only now received Sweden’s authorization to make its action public.
Also on Wednesday, WikiLeaks accused Amazon.com of ending an agreement to host its Web site. Amazon hosts the sites of many companies and organizations as part of its Amazon Web Services program.
The whereabouts of Mr. Assange, 39, is unknown, but the sequence of recent events suggests that if he had wanted to flee Britain, his last known location, without being arrested, he might have had to do so within 48 hours of the Nov. 18 Swedish court ruling.
A report in the British newspaper, The Independent, on Thursday suggested that Scotland Yard’s Serious Organized Crime Agency knew the whereabouts of Mr. Assange. He is said to be in the south of England and Scotland Yard even has a telephone number for him, but they have declined to arrest him until they clarify technical difficulties with paperwork filed by the Swedish prosecutors, the report said.
Mr. Stephens, Mr. Assange’s lawyer, said his client’s arrest and extradition might not be imminent. “Given the procedural defects we’ve seen so far,” he said, “I’d be absolutely astonished if the Swedes were able to present a warrant valid in this country.”
The developments came as several newspapers, including The New York Times, published confidential documents obtained by WikiLeaks and made available from a mass of some 250,000 diplomatic cables from the State Department, including communications concerning American policy toward Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia and many other countries.
In a message posted on Twitter, WikiLeaks said its servers at Amazon had been “ousted,” adding that its money would now be spent “to employ people in Europe.”
An hour and a half later, WikiLeaks continued the attack, saying, “If Amazon are so uncomfortable with the first amendment, they should get out of the business of selling books.” WikiLeaks then posted a link to its donations page, with an appeal to “Keep WikiLeaks strong.”
Amazon did not immediately respond to requests for comment about any business relationship with WikiLeaks.
The WikiLeaks site was inaccessible for several hours before it switched to servers owned by its previous Swedish host, Bahnhof, The Associated Press said.
Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, said Amazon had stopped hosting the WikiLeaks site on Wednesday after being contacted by the staff of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Staff members had asked Amazon to explain its business relationship with WikiLeaks, which Mr. Lieberman, the committee’s chairman, had criticized for publishing sensitive government documents.
“I wish that Amazon had taken this action earlier, based on WikiLeaks’s previous publication of classified material,” the senator said in a statement. “The company’s decision to cut off WikiLeaks now is the right decision and should set the standard for other companies WikiLeaks is using to distribute its illegally seized material.”
Mr. Lieberman called on any other company that is hosting WikiLeaks’s Web site to stop immediately, saying that its “illegal, outrageous, and reckless acts have compromised our national security and put lives at risk around the world.”
“No responsible company — whether American or foreign — should assist WikiLeaks in its efforts to disseminate these stolen materials,” he said. “I will be asking Amazon about the extent of its relationship with WikiLeaks and what it and other Web service providers will do in the future to ensure that their services are not used to distribute stolen, classified information.”
The Swedish prosecutor’s office said almost two weeks ago that a court in Stockholm had approved its request for the arrest of Mr. Assange to face questioning on suspicion of “rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion” — charges that he has strongly denied and that WikiLeaks has dismissed as “dirty tricks” meant to punish him for his organization’s work.
The accusations were first made against Mr. Assange after he traveled to Sweden in mid-August and had brief relationships with two Swedish women.
At that time, he said he intended to establish a more secure base for himself and WikiLeaks under the wide protections afforded to whistle-blowers by Swedish law. The organization already had strong support there, and used Sweden as a base for some of the multiple Web servers that stored and disseminated its caches of secret documents.
According to accounts the two Swedish women gave to the police and friends, each had consensual sexual encounters with Mr. Assange that became nonconsensual. Mr. Assange has portrayed the relationships as consensual and questioned the veracity of the women’s accounts.
A spokesman for Scotland Yard said the force had received “no intelligence” that Mr. Assange, an Australian, was still in London, and that while the Interpol alert did not compel the British police to hunt for him, “if that intelligence comes in, or we have reason to believe that a person who has a Red Notice out on them is in a certain location, we will find them and extradite them as per the international rules.”​
 

Danny Z

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Dirty Dragon

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I'm very suspicious of this leak package. I don't know how authentic all or some of them are, but they don't tell anything particularly shocking or revealing and for the most part leave Israel out and even work to it's benefit.

Julian Assange praised Natanyahu for his view that the leaks would aid diplomacy. Turkey is saying Israel engineered the leaks. Of course Natanyahu will be pleased if the leaks are selective and tailored.

Probably the single revelation that is gaining most headlines is the Saudi request to attack Iran. The idea being that leaking this will bring more to the public the hidden alliance between Israel and the Arabs, to make it more acceptable and to test the waters of the Arab street. Very convenient time to make a point that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not the source of instability but rather Iran, just when the negotiations between Palestinians and Israel came to a halt and Israel is being universally blamed for it.

Don't clap blindly, there is nothing particularly useful in the leaks in the first place.
 

My Moria Moon

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I'm very suspicious of this leak package. I don't know how authentic all or some of them are, but they don't tell anything particularly shocking or revealing and for the most part leave Israel out and even work to it's benefit.

Julian Assange praised Natanyahu for his view that the leaks would aid diplomacy. Turkey is saying Israel engineered the leaks. Of course Natanyahu will be pleased if the leaks are selective and tailored.

Probably the single revelation that is gaining most headlines is the Saudi request to attack Iran. The idea being that leaking this will bring more to the public the hidden alliance between Israel and the Arabs, to make it more acceptable and to test the waters of the Arab street. Very convenient time to make a point that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not the source of instability but rather Iran, just when the negotiations between Palestinians and Israel came to a halt and Israel is being universally blamed for it.

Don't clap blindly, there is nothing particularly useful in the leaks in the first place.

The leaks are said to comprise some 250.000 cables. How many of these are about Lebanon? Hardly an Israeli construction, not this one, not when it appears to have caused so much annoyance and disturbance to the great ally himself, the USA.
 

Dirty Dragon

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The leaks are said to comprise some 250.000 cables. How many of these are about Lebanon? Hardly an Israeli construction, not this one, not when it appears to have caused so much annoyance and disturbance to the great ally himself, the USA.

The question is how many cables are relating to the ME, not just Lebanon. The annoyance and disturbance to the USA is very exaggerated. Have you read anything that is shockingly incriminating of the USA or Israel in all these cables? On the other hand, they are full of juicy stuff that strain the relationship between pretty much every Middle East country, particularly the Gulf states and Iran.

Btw, I didn't say it was an Israeli construction. I merely relayed what Turkey has said, and my own assessment that the leak works to the benefit of Israel.
 

Abou Sandal

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The leaks are said to comprise some 250.000 cables. How many of these are about Lebanon? Hardly an Israeli construction, not this one, not when it appears to have caused so much annoyance and disturbance to the great ally himself, the USA.

The leaks are true documents. This doesn't mean that there are no documents that were not published though.

And the main target of pressure (blackmail?) appears to be the USA and the Arab World. Oh...And Iran is being established as the ultimate evil.

I see no contradiction but a clear Israeli interest.
 

My Moria Moon

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The question is how many cables are relating to the ME, not just Lebanon. The annoyance and disturbance to the USA is very exaggerated. Have you read anything that is shockingly incriminating of the USA or Israel in all these cables? On the other hand, they are full of juicy stuff that strain the relationship between pretty much every Middle East country, particularly the Gulf states and Iran.

Btw, I didn't say it was an Israeli construction. I merely relayed what Turkey has said, and my own assessment that the leak works to the benefit of Israel.

I haven't read anything seriously incriminating of anyone neither, yet, apart from relaying american chit-chats about others. Also, not all the package of leaks has been fully released to the public, yet. Few western papers have got them, and so far a tiny sample has been published. Perhaps the fact that most of those media outlets are owned or indirectly controlled by Jewish or Jewish affiliated people play a role in not revealing Israeli related items among those leaks, still yet..

I don't figure Assange and his wikileaking team sat down with Israeli agents and had to go through all ME related telegrams and filter out those that did not benefit Israel, rearrange them to suit his Israeli friends and then released them.
 

Dirty Dragon

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I don't figure Assange and his wikileaking team sat down with Israeli agents and had to go through all ME related telegrams and filter out those that did not benefit Israel, rearrange them to suit his Israeli friends and then released them.

Of course not. The point is that whatever reached the wikileaks site was selective, and they will be happy with any scoop not like they are going to complain about it.
 

My Moria Moon

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The leaks are true documents. This doesn't mean that there are no documents that were not published though.

And the main target appears to be the USA and the Arab World.

I see no contradiction but a clear Israeli interest.

If benefit or disadvantage happen by accident or as a collateral event, then good luck for the lucky one and tough luck for the unlucky. Still, not all the documents have been released to the public yet. Wait and see. After all, most of those telegrams are the kind of arwashet on slightly higher international level than our local neswen el fourn's.

You will not find among them any dramatic revelations of the kind that might shake nations foundations. A different story for our shaky and nervous size however, we tend to discover in those which are related to our situation the depth of the misery awaiting us ahead.
 

My Moria Moon

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Of course not. The point is that whatever reached the wikileaks site was selective, and they will be happy with any scoop not like they are going to complain about it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the 250.000 documents have been handed over to specific newspapers and news agencies. It is those who now are deciding what to publish and how much.
 

Abou Sandal

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Orange Room Supporter
If benefit or disadvantage happen by accident or as a collateral event, then good luck for the lucky one and tough luck for the unlucky. Still, not all the documents have been released to the public yet. Wait and see. After all, most of those telegrams are the kind of arwashet on slightly higher international level than our local neswen el fourn's.

You will not find among them any dramatic revelations of the kind that might shake nations foundations. For our shaky and nervous size, we tend to discover in those which are related to our situation the depth of the misery awaiting us ahead.

It is true that no stories or events that we didn't previously suspect or knew happened, were revealed by Wikileaks.

And that is actually what disturbs me the most in fact.

On the other hand, those small stories are creating tremendous embarrassment, mainly to the US And Arab allies, and shifting the whole World from what is happening on the ground.

Add to that, the convenient coincidence of Iran appearing as the biggest of monsters, that is also conveniently, hated by all.

I can understand that Israel wants to corner its own collaborators and friends (Arab friends mainly) into being publicly exposed for what they truly stand for behind closed walls, and therefore having no option of going back. Kind of forcing of ranks consolidation.

The other danger is that those documents appear to have a worldwide appearance of authenticity, whether some believe them to be true or false. Which makes the public perceiving everything in those documents, as the ultimate truth.

But here is the catch: Even if those document are true, they do not necessarily project the truth. Because part of those documents will never be published.

For example, while it is unbelievable that not one positive thing about Iran is revealed, it is also unbelievable that not one negative thing about Israel was also revealed.

This is what I called earlier "ascepticizing" the leaked documents.

And like you said...Only a small part is revealed till now...So more embarrassment to come, meaning also more pressure, and of course more shifting of the public opinion towards little scandals...

Maybe more blackmail?
 

My Moria Moon

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But here is the catch: Even if those document are true, they do not necessarily project the truth. Because part of those documents will never be published.

For example, while it is unbelievable that not one positive thing about Iran is revealed, it is also unbelievable that not one negative thing about Israel was also revealed.

This is what I called earlier "ascepticizing" the leaked documents.

True, but I don't see a catch in here mr Abou. I see "natural nudity" that might shock a Mormon but not a weathered porno surfer :biggrin: What I mean is: Who the heck will raise eyebrows at those leaks, true or not true (very true I guess), when most western people - where our concern actually lies when we talk media action - are effectively bombarded by daily anti-Iranian campaigns launched by the same now "leacked" Americans?. You can't beat an already very dead horse, to more death, can you?
 

Dirty Dragon

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the 250.000 documents have been handed over to specific newspapers and news agencies. It is those who now are deciding what to publish and how much.

As far as I know, the reviewing process before publication is not transparent.
Also, the original 250,000 are not an exhaustive archive of all the diplomatic cables. Whoever gets their hands on 250,000 in bulk, and doesn't get his hands on the rest, for sure filtered out something.

Finally to get a little paranoid, if I was forced to place a bet, I would bet that Wikileaks itself isn't an independent organization. One of several question marks is that one of their own board members previously quit saying that it was a "CIA conduit", and though he later retracted the statement, insists that the financing is not transparent. Strange for a project so dripped in the open source open information bla bla philosophy to not have transparent financing. Only 5 full time members, of which Assange is the de facto autocrat. Again something seems amiss.
 

My Moria Moon

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Orange Room Supporter
As far as I know, the reviewing process before publication is not transparent.
Also, the original 250,000 are not an exhaustive archive of all the diplomatic cables. Whoever gets their hands on 250,000 in bulk, and doesn't get his hands on the rest, for sure filtered out something.

Finally to get a little paranoid, if I was forced to place a bet, I would bet that Wikileaks itself isn't an independent organization. One of several question marks is that one of their own board members previously quit saying that it was a "CIA conduit", and though he later retracted the statement, insists that the financing is not transparent. Strange for a project so dripped in the open source open information bla bla philosophy to not have transparent financing. Only 5 full time members, of which Assange is the de facto autocrat. Again something seems amiss.

Who's behind it, according to your betting paranoia? Israelis?? Assange is chased by the Interpol for rape accusations in Sweden, practically an outlaw for now. The leaks were released during his recent run and hide to evade being brought before the law.. Spinning on that paranoia of yours, do you see some connection here? ;)
 

Arze

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CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Thu. Dec. 2 2010 2:49 PM ET

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is defending the Canadian ambassador to Afghanistan, who has reportedly offered to resign over fears leaked diplomatic cables will damage relations with Kabul.

A report in Thursday's Globe and Mail indicates that William Crosbie, Canada's ambassador to Afghanistan, has written to Ottawa to say he is concerned about what may come out on the WikiLeaks website.

The newspaper reports that Crosbie has seen a copy of a memo that will appear on WikiLeaks that quotes him criticizing Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

When asked about the criticisms, Harper replied "Crosbie doesn't represent the government of Afghanistan, he represents the government of Canada in Afghanistan."

Harper added it's well known that Canada has been "outspoken in its concerns about some aspects of governance in Afghanistan."

Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon said it's the role of ambassadors to criticize and raise concerns.

"Our government raises concerns regarding issues of democracy, human rights and rule of law directly with the Afghan authorities, and we expect our ambassadors to do exactly that," Cannon said in the House of Commons Thursday.

NDP Leader Jack Layton asked during question period why Canada should continue training Afghan soldiers until 2014, if Ottawa thinks the Afghan government is so corrupt.

"The government of Canada will continue to make its concerns known to the government of Afghanistan . . . our ultimate goal is to leave Afghanistan to the Afghans and to create a more secure, and safe country," Cannon replied.

Former diplomat Colin Robertson said it is the right move for Crosbie to step down if the memo will be as damaging as he predicts.

"He's the senior diplomat who presumably has had the respect of President Karzai and when he's alerting the Canadian government, he's saying: ‘Look, this relationship could be in jeopardy, so we'll have to take stock over the coming days depending on what comes out,'" Robertson told CTV's Canada AM from Ottawa on Thursday morning.

In Afghanistan, there was no official reaction to the reported content of the memo from the Canadian or Afghan governments, or from Ahmed Wali Karzai the powerful brother of the Afghan president who may also be named in the memo.

CTV's Ben O'Hara-Byrne said it appears that "everyone is just waiting to see what exactly was said" in the memo that has still not been published online.

Since Sunday, the controversial WikiLeaks website has been posting confidential U.S. diplomatic cables on the Internet. A few hundred have been published so far, with the website planning to publish more than 250,000 over time.

The cables, which were not meant for public consumption, have ignited daily diplomatic fires that the U.S. has been forced to snuff out as the candid observations of its embassy staff have been made public.

In the case of Canada, one diplomatic cable suggested the country has an "inferiority complex" when it compares itself to the United States.

Canadian officials have said the WikiLeaks revelations will not impact the relationship between the two countries and U.S. Ambassador David Jacobson echoed that sentiment, saying Washington appreciates the strong support it has received from Ottawa.

"Canada is a real friend to the United States," Jacobson told CTV's Canada AM during an interview from Ottawa on Thursday morning.

"We truly appreciate the sentiments of the foreign minister and others in the government who have made it clear that this isn't going impact on what is a fundamentally strong relationship."
 

Abou Sandal

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True, but I don't see a catch in here mr Abou. I see "natural nudity" that might shock a Mormon but not a weathered porno surfer :biggrin: What I mean is: Who the heck will raise eyebrows at those leaks, true or not true (very true I guess), when most western people - where our concern actually lies when we talk media action - are effectively bombarded by daily anti-Iranian campaigns launched by the same now "leacked" Americans?. You can't beat an already very dead horse, to more death, can you?

Yes but there is a growing and significant skepticism is Western public opinion, and a certain push in certain directions might muzzle some. Especially that there is a hidden trap in those leaks which is: "If you accept this part then you can't dismiss that part". And that is dangerous, especially the more is proven to be true.

Not to mention that no one talks about anything else these days, especially not about the pressures put on Israel in the fake peace process...And many other things...

I say that we need to be very careful for what might be set up for the upcoming days.

An interesting article:

[FIELDSET="WikiLeaks – More Israeli Game Theory Warfare?"]


WikiLeaks – More Israeli Game Theory Warfare?

December 1, 2010 by Jeff Gates

“The United States is the real victim of WikiLeaks. It’s an action aimed at discrediting them.” Franco Frattini, Foreign Minister of Italy

The impact of the WikiLeaks release of diplomatic cables fits the behavior profile of those well versed in game theory warfare.

When Israeli mathematician Robert J. Aumann received the 2005 Nobel Prize in economic science for his work on game theory, he conceded, “the entire school of thought that we have developed here in Israel” has turned “Israel into the leading authority in this field.”

The candor of this Israeli-American offered a rare insight into an enclave long known for waging war from the shadows. Israel’s most notable success to date was “fixing” the intelligence that induced the U.S. to invade Iraq in pursuit of a geopolitical agenda long sought by Tel Aviv

When waging intelligence wars, timing is often the critical factor for game-theory war planners. The outcome of the WikiLeaks release suggests a psy-ops directed at the U.S.

Why now? Tel Aviv was feeling pressure to end its six-decade occupation of Palestine. With this release, its foot-dragging on the peace process was displaced with talk of an attack on Iran.

While the U.S. bore the brunt of the damage, the target was global public opinion. To maintain the plausibility of The Clash of Civilizations, a focus must be maintained on Iran as a credible Evil Doer.

With fast-emerging transparency, Israel and pro-Israelis have been identified as the source of the intelligence that took coalition forces to war in Iraq. Thus the need to shift attention off Tel Aviv.

WikiLeaks may yet succeed in that mission.


Foreseeable Futures

Game theory war planning aims to create outcomes that are predictable—within an acceptable range of probabilities. That’s why Israeli war planners focus on gaining traction for a plausible narrative and then advancing that storyline step by gradual step.

For the Zionist state to succeed with its expansionist agenda, Iran must remain at center stage as an essential villain in a geopolitical morality play pitting the West against Islamo Fascists.

To displace facts with false beliefs—as with belief in the intelligence that induced the invasion of Iraq—momentum must be maintained for the storyline. Lose the plot (The Clash) and peace might break out. And those deceived may identify the deceiver.

Thus the timing of this latest WikiLeaks release. Its goal: to have us believe that it is not Tel Aviv but Washington that is the forefront of geopolitical duplicity and a source of Evil Doing.

Intelligence wars rely on mathematical models to anticipate the response of those targeted. With game theory algorithms, reactions become foreseeable—within an acceptable range of probabilities.

Control enough of the variables and outcomes become a mathematical inevitability.


The WikiLeaks Motive

Was the reaction to this latest WikiLeaks foreseeable? With exquisite timing, the U.S. was discredited with an array of revelations that called into question U.S. motives and put in jeopardy U.S. relations worldwide.

As the Italian Foreign Minister summarized: “The news released by WikiLeaks will change diplomatic relations between countries.”

The hard-earned trust of the Pakistanis disappeared overnight. Attempts to engage Iran were set back. The overall effect advanced The Clash storyline. If Washington could so badly misread North Korean intentions, then why is the U.S. to be trusted when it comes to a nuclear Iran?

This Wiki-catalyzed storyline pushed Israel off the front page in favor of Iran.

Even U.S. detainees at Guantanamo are again at issue, reigniting that shameful spectacle as a provocation for extremism and terror. U.S. diplomats will now be suspected of spying and lying. What nation can now trust Americans to maintain confidences?

In short, the risks increased for everyone.

Except Israel.

Should Israel launch an attack on Iran, Tel Aviv can cite WikiLeaks as its rationale. Though an attack would be calamitous from a human, economic and financial perspective, even that foreseeable outcome would be dwarfed by the enduring hatred that would ensue.

That too is foreseeable—from a game theory perspective of those marketing The Clash.

The effect of the U.S. invasion of Iraq was predictable. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia foresaw it, noting simply that the U.S. invasion would “give Iraq to Iran as a gift on a golden platter.”

With the elimination of Sunni leader Saddam Hussein, the numerically dominant Shiites of Iraq were drawn into the political orbit of the Shiite-dominant Iran.

Game theorists focus their manipulation of affairs on their control of key variables. Then events take on a life all their own. The impact of this discrediting release was wide-ranging and fully foreseeable.

A Mossad case officer explained Israel’s success at waging war by way of deception: “Once the orchestra starts to play, we just hum along.”

These, after all, are the leading authorities in the field.

WikiLeaks ? More Israeli Game Theory Warfare? | Criminal State[/FIELDSET]
 

My Moria Moon

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Yes but there is a growing and significant skepticism is Western public opinion, and a certain push in certain directions might muzzle some. Especially that there is a hidden trap in those leaks which is: "If you accept this part then you can't dismiss that part". And that is dangerous, especially the more is proven to be true.

Not to mention that no one talks about anything else these days, especially not about the pressures put on Israel in the fake peace process...And many other things...

I say that we need to be very careful for what might be set up for the upcoming days.

An interesting article:

[FIELDSET="WikiLeaks – More Israeli Game Theory Warfare?"]


WikiLeaks – More Israeli Game Theory Warfare?

December 1, 2010 by Jeff Gates

“The United States is the real victim of WikiLeaks. It’s an action aimed at discrediting them.” Franco Frattini, Foreign Minister of Italy

The impact of the WikiLeaks release of diplomatic cables fits the behavior profile of those well versed in game theory warfare.

When Israeli mathematician Robert J. Aumann received the 2005 Nobel Prize in economic science for his work on game theory, he conceded, “the entire school of thought that we have developed here in Israel” has turned “Israel into the leading authority in this field.”

The candor of this Israeli-American offered a rare insight into an enclave long known for waging war from the shadows. Israel’s most notable success to date was “fixing” the intelligence that induced the U.S. to invade Iraq in pursuit of a geopolitical agenda long sought by Tel Aviv

When waging intelligence wars, timing is often the critical factor for game-theory war planners. The outcome of the WikiLeaks release suggests a psy-ops directed at the U.S.

Why now? Tel Aviv was feeling pressure to end its six-decade occupation of Palestine. With this release, its foot-dragging on the peace process was displaced with talk of an attack on Iran.

While the U.S. bore the brunt of the damage, the target was global public opinion. To maintain the plausibility of The Clash of Civilizations, a focus must be maintained on Iran as a credible Evil Doer.

With fast-emerging transparency, Israel and pro-Israelis have been identified as the source of the intelligence that took coalition forces to war in Iraq. Thus the need to shift attention off Tel Aviv.

WikiLeaks may yet succeed in that mission.


Foreseeable Futures

Game theory war planning aims to create outcomes that are predictable—within an acceptable range of probabilities. That’s why Israeli war planners focus on gaining traction for a plausible narrative and then advancing that storyline step by gradual step.

For the Zionist state to succeed with its expansionist agenda, Iran must remain at center stage as an essential villain in a geopolitical morality play pitting the West against Islamo Fascists.

To displace facts with false beliefs—as with belief in the intelligence that induced the invasion of Iraq—momentum must be maintained for the storyline. Lose the plot (The Clash) and peace might break out. And those deceived may identify the deceiver.

Thus the timing of this latest WikiLeaks release. Its goal: to have us believe that it is not Tel Aviv but Washington that is the forefront of geopolitical duplicity and a source of Evil Doing.

Intelligence wars rely on mathematical models to anticipate the response of those targeted. With game theory algorithms, reactions become foreseeable—within an acceptable range of probabilities.

Control enough of the variables and outcomes become a mathematical inevitability.


The WikiLeaks Motive

Was the reaction to this latest WikiLeaks foreseeable? With exquisite timing, the U.S. was discredited with an array of revelations that called into question U.S. motives and put in jeopardy U.S. relations worldwide.

As the Italian Foreign Minister summarized: “The news released by WikiLeaks will change diplomatic relations between countries.”

The hard-earned trust of the Pakistanis disappeared overnight. Attempts to engage Iran were set back. The overall effect advanced The Clash storyline. If Washington could so badly misread North Korean intentions, then why is the U.S. to be trusted when it comes to a nuclear Iran?

This Wiki-catalyzed storyline pushed Israel off the front page in favor of Iran.

Even U.S. detainees at Guantanamo are again at issue, reigniting that shameful spectacle as a provocation for extremism and terror. U.S. diplomats will now be suspected of spying and lying. What nation can now trust Americans to maintain confidences?

In short, the risks increased for everyone.

Except Israel.

Should Israel launch an attack on Iran, Tel Aviv can cite WikiLeaks as its rationale. Though an attack would be calamitous from a human, economic and financial perspective, even that foreseeable outcome would be dwarfed by the enduring hatred that would ensue.

That too is foreseeable—from a game theory perspective of those marketing The Clash.

The effect of the U.S. invasion of Iraq was predictable. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia foresaw it, noting simply that the U.S. invasion would “give Iraq to Iran as a gift on a golden platter.”

With the elimination of Sunni leader Saddam Hussein, the numerically dominant Shiites of Iraq were drawn into the political orbit of the Shiite-dominant Iran.

Game theorists focus their manipulation of affairs on their control of key variables. Then events take on a life all their own. The impact of this discrediting release was wide-ranging and fully foreseeable.

A Mossad case officer explained Israel’s success at waging war by way of deception: “Once the orchestra starts to play, we just hum along.”

These, after all, are the leading authorities in the field.

WikiLeaks ? More Israeli Game Theory Warfare? | Criminal State[/FIELDSET]


This analysis would have been more credible and easier to adopt had Israel not been already at the peak of its control over the US administration. At no other times in its short history was the Israeli-american lobby in such almost total control of the US ME agenda, as it is now. Do you recall the settlements freezing issue, and how Obama ended up offering Israel ten folds more for the peanut of freezing settlements for measly 3 months?

I personally see no direct interest for Israel to drag its much friendly and willing ally in that wiki mud. Not at this particular intimate moment in their love affair.
 

J. Abizeid

Well-Known Member
Profile: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange

BBC News - Profile: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange
Profile: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange

To his fans, Julian Assange is a valiant campaigner for truth. To his critics, though, he is a publicity-seeker who has endangered lives by putting a mass of sensitive information into the public domain.
Mr Assange is described by those who have worked with him as intense, driven and highly intelligent - with an exceptional ability to crack computer codes.
He is often on the move, running Wikileaks from temporary, shifting locations.
He can go long stretches without eating, and focus on work with very little sleep, according to Raffi Khatchadourian, a reporter for the New Yorker magazine who spent several weeks travelling with him.
"He creates this atmosphere around him where the people who are close to him want to care for him to help keep him going.
"I would say that probably has something to do with his charisma," Ms Khatchadourian said.
Julian Assange has been reluctant to talk about his background, but media interest since the emergence of Wikileaks has given some insight into his influences.
He was born in Townsville, Queensland, northern Australia, in 1971, and led a nomadic childhood while his parents ran a touring theatre.
He had a child at 18, and custody battles soon followed.
Caught hacking
The development of the internet gave him a chance to use his early promise at maths, though this, too, led to difficulties.
In 1995 he was accused with a friend of dozens of hacking activities.
Though the group of hackers was skilled enough to track detectives tracking them, Mr Assange was eventually caught and pleaded guilty.


He was fined several thousand Australian dollars - only escaping prison on the condition that he did not reoffend.
He then spent three years working with an academic, Suelette Dreyfus, who was researching the emerging, subversive side of the internet, writing a book with her, Underground, that became a bestseller in the computing fraternity.
Ms Dreyfus described Mr Assange as a "very skilled researcher" who was "quite interested in the concept of ethics, concepts of justice, what governments should and shouldn't do".
This was followed by a course in physics and maths at Melbourne University, where he became a prominent member of a mathematics society, inventing an elaborate maths puzzle that contemporaries said he excelled at.
'Encrypt everything'
He began Wikileaks in 2006 with a group of like-minded people from across the web, creating a web-based "dead-letterbox" for would-be leakers.
"[To] keep our sources safe, we have had to spread assets, encrypt everything, and move telecommunications and people around the world to activate protective laws in different national jurisdictions," Mr Assange told the BBC earlier this year.
"We've become good at it, and never lost a case, or a source, but we can't expect everyone to go through the extraordinary efforts that we do."
Daniel Schmitt, a co-founder, describes Mr Assange as "one of the few people who really care about positive reform in this world to a level where you're willing to do something radical to risk making a mistake, just for the sake of working on something they believe in".
Wikileaks has published material from a number of different countries, but really hit the headlines in April, when it released video taken from a US helicopter in Iraq in 2007. The images, carried by media outlets around the world, caused widespread shock.
Mr Assange emerged into the spotlight to promote and defend the video, as well as the massive releases of classified US military documents on the Afghan and Iraq wars, in July and October.
But reporters say he can still prove elusive, and that the workings of his website remain shrouded in secrecy.
In another twist in a controversial career, he is the subject of an international arrest warrant issued by Swedish prosecutors over allegations of rape and molestation.
The claims surfaced after he visited Sweden in August and relate to separate sexual encounters with two women, which his lawyer says were entirely consensual.
Mr Assange says the allegations are part of a smear campaign against him and his whistle-blowing website.
An initial investigation in August was dropped after only a day, but in September Sweden's Director of Prosecution reopened the case.
On 24 November, a Swedish court rejected his appeal against a detention order. The case is currently being considered by the Supreme Court.
Following the Wikileaks release of thousands of classified US diplomatic cables, the deputy foreign minister of Ecuador - a strong opponent of US policy - said it would offer Mr Assange residency "without any conditions".
However, Ecuador's President Rafael Correa later said the offer had "not been approved by Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino - or the president".
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Abou Sandal

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This analysis would have been more credible and easier to adopt had Israel not been already at the peak of its control over the US administration. At no other times in its short history was the Israeli-american lobby in such almost total control of the US ME agenda, as it is now. Do you recall the settlements freezing issue, and how Obama ended up offering Israel ten folds more for the peanut of freezing settlements for measly 3 months?

I personally see no direct interest for Israel to drag its much friendly and willing ally in that wiki mud. Not at this particular intimate moment in their love affair.

You're repeating a point that I already answered to: There is a growing and significant skepticism is Western public opinion, and a certain push in certain directions might muzzle some. Especially that there is a hidden trap in those leaks which is: "If you accept this part then you can't dismiss that part". And that is dangerous, especially the more is proven to be true.

One interesting comment I read was:

"It is becoming more and more obvious that Wikileaks was a maneuver by the Israelis to infiltrate and subvert the alternative news community. Now, instead of looking to alt. news web sites , the skeptical public can just tune in to Wikileaks via the mainstream media and get lots of lies wrapped in thin slivers of truth. Truth like, "Kim Jong Il is a "flabby old chap". Will that be enough to satisfy them?"

Many famous alternative news sites seem to have been "blinded". Sites like Counterpunch, Global Research, Citizens for a Legitimate Government, Democracy now and Information Clearing House, for example, are all publishing the Wiki-leaks stories, without so much as a hint of critical thought it seems.

That is a significant point for Israel.


Here is another interesting article:

[FIELDSET="The Tonka Report"]

WikiLeaks Under Scrutiny For Being US-Israel Psyops Organization

October 24, 2010: Jamshed Abbas / Islam Times – October 23, 2010

Islam Times – The war between Wikileaks and the Pentagon supposedly continued on Friday as the famous “whistleblower” website released 400,000 “classified” documents. The Pentagon has reportedly assigned 120 personnel to pore over the documents to determine the potential damage they could cause to U.S. security.

However, like many news reports in this day and age, the real story may be buried under the hype surrounding the release of these supposedly “classified” documents and the “outrage” they are causing. The documents seem to paint a picture that very much favours official U.S. positions on the Iraq war. For example, the American media, which has a well documented history of shilling for the U.S. government highlighted two stories that it supposedly extrapolated from these documents.

The first was the fact that the majority of civilian casualties in the Iraq war were caused by Iraqis. This directly contradicts a comprehensive study conducted by Johns Hopkins University in 2004. It found that “coalition” forces killed over 600,000 Iraqis, the majority of them killed in airstrikes. The leaked documents conveniently contradict this information.

The second major story emanating from the “leaks” is that Iran was actively destabilizing Iraq by funding militants who were assassinating Iraqi officials. One AFP story even highlights the accusation that Iran tried to launch a poison gas attack on the “green zone,” an area where Iraqi and American officials are based.

Another factor that makes this “leak” highly suspect is that the Times, a newspaper that played a leading role in validating the illegal invasion of Iraq and is well known for its pro Zionist policy, was one of “few” media outlets that was given “early” access to these “leaked” documents. This meant that the Times was able to weave a narrative around the leaked documents that was then picked up by all the major networks.

The fact that the supposedly damaging leaks are in fact bolstering American accusations against Iran while minimizing American complicity in Iraqi deaths leads some to believe that the leaks are in fact engineered by the Pentagon to either discredit Wikileaks, or are in conjunction with Wikileaks which is a U.S. government outfit.


The Tonka Report Editor’s Note: Once again, I tend to agree that WikiLeaks indeed is a gatekeeper and propaganda arm of the US and Israel. For more on this, read the article below from Veterans Today… - SJH

WikiLeaks Under Scrutiny For Being US-Israel Psyops Organization The Tonka Report[/FIELDSET]
 

Dirty Dragon

Well-Known Member
Who's behind it, according to your betting paranoia? Israelis?? Assange is chased by the Interpol for rape accusations in Sweden, practically an outlaw for now. The leaks were released during his recent run and hide to evade being brought before the law.. Spinning on that paranoia of yours, do you see some connection here? ;)

I don't know if it was the Israelis but it certainly is a possibility as they have a strong foothold in any cyberspace related intelligence operations. As for the wink, I don't see the point, please elaborate.

This analysis would have been more credible and easier to adopt had Israel not been already at the peak of its control over the US administration. At no other times in its short history was the Israeli-american lobby in such almost total control of the US ME agenda, as it is now. Do you recall the settlements freezing issue, and how Obama ended up offering Israel ten folds more for the peanut of freezing settlements for measly 3 months?

I personally see no direct interest for Israel to drag its much friendly and willing ally in that wiki mud. Not at this particular intimate moment in their love affair.

The deal for the freeze broke down just before the leaks. That's what I was referring to in my first post in this thread.

That is where I disagree with you. Even if we assume the Israeli lobby influence on the US ME policy is still iron fisted, the US capacity to manipulate events in the Middle East is rock bottom nevertheless. The balance of powers between the US and Europe is now vastly more in favor of Europe than the common conception. Check Leiberman's plan to launch a massive lobbying the public relations campaign in every European country, this is a recent announcement of a project of massive scale.
 
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