In memory of fallen US soldiers in Afghanistan

أبو علي

Legendary Member
mawsam el karaz ata3 ya ebne enough cherry picking meanignless stories to claim your high moral ground 😂😂

Cherry picking? stop being an ass!
This is not cherry picking this is me telling you to your face when you want to tell me about how civilized the US is!

The same country that justify mass murder of other civilians by bombarding their cities!
For you Nagasaki and Hiroshima are stories of ancient past and even justified by the "civilized world" but it will hunt the U.S. forever!

Specially that is well known today that it wasn't even necessary to defeat the Japs as they were already defeated!

Here is the thing if Nagasaki and Hiroshima were justified so is 9/11 which is not comparable to what happened!
Justifying the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima equal justifying the killing of civilians, women and children!

USA's cruelty is beyond imagination!
 

Manifesto

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The inconvenient truth...


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I'm reporting this because the investigations are still ongoing and there's no proof yet that the birth defects are linked to the American assault on Fallouja.

Let's not rush to conclusions.
 

أبو علي

Legendary Member
I'm reporting this because the investigations are still ongoing and there's no proof yet that the birth defects are linked to the American assault on Fallouja.

Let's not rush to conclusions.

Stop playing dumb dude!
You expect from any puppet regime to make a real investigation?

It is well known that USA tested all kinds of chemicals and explosive weapons in Fallujah!
So obviously it will be linked back to US army when all these birth defects started to happen after!

And USA has some history with this! It is not like this is something new directly!
 

Viral

Well-Known Member
I'm reporting this because the investigations are still ongoing and there's no proof yet that the birth defects are linked to the American assault on Fallouja.

Let's not rush to conclusions.
May be will get it before Lebanon's forms its government:lol:
 

Viral

Well-Known Member
Not gloating.. but you are disrespecting all the victims that died in the recent bombing!
ye3ni from all what happened you saw just some dead U.S. soldiers meanwhile portraying them as the good martyrs!
This was what triggered my first reaction. I know @Manifesto is not trolling and I know he’s smart enough not to miss that part of the big picture the one of the innocent Afghani victims who fell in their own land without a fault of their own thanks to the un-invited Americans who did their shit in Afghanistan, ****ed up and now we are supposed to feel sorry for them and ignore the victims of the Land.
This insensitive and discriminatory attitude coming from @Manifesto really surprises me. I always looked up at him as a fair and balanced person with honest and high moral values who supports the underdog.

Remember the American involvement and support of Mujahedeen since the Soviet era in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda, ISIS and likes evolved from the same seed planted and nourished by the CIA and when the bomb they use to destroy innocent nations and people's livelihoods blows in their own face they cut and run and start crying like babies.

Having said that, I definitely feel sorry for the American young soldiers who signed up to defend and protect America but ended up in deserts and foreign landed dying to defend, protect and promote US corporations and criminal industries. But it’s up to the American people to get informed and educated about how their tax dollars are invested and why their children are dying in foreign lands and deserts without winning a single war.

America’s wars have no destination. They are continuous business journeys owned by corporations like the military industrial complex. Only the American people can change that. Until then, resistance is the only answer...

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Manifesto

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@Viral there were many Taliban members among the Afghan dead. Forgive me for not shedding a tear over a bunch of women-oppressing terrorists.

I do not know if there were innocent women and children among them. But of course, all loss of human life is regrettable. And I sympathize with their families. This thread, however, is a tribute to US soldiers. It's not meant to make light of the death of Afghan people or to undermine their suffering, but Lebanon shares stronger bonds with America. They're our friend and ally. And they deserve their own thread.

US provides $100 million in humanitarian assistance for Lebanon. It granted $120 million to the Lebanese army.

What would Lebanon be without US support? Have you ever thought about that?
 

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

Legendary Member
People really underestimate Trump's legacy. US army suffered the least casualties during his tenure.

Indeed.
There are two kinds who usually dump on Trump - clueless idiots and liars.
Liars usually have political/ideological reasons behind it, but I could never understand why others willfully choose to be ignorant fools driven by the very liars that I mentioned.
 

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

Legendary Member
I'm reporting this because the investigations are still ongoing and there's no proof yet that the birth defects are linked to the American assault on Fallouja.

Let's not rush to conclusions.

Why would "American assault on Fallouja" cause these birth defects in the first place, what would be causing it exactly?
 

أبو علي

Legendary Member
This was what triggered my first reaction. I know @Manifesto is not trolling and I know he’s smart enough not to miss that part of the big picture the one of the innocent Afghani victims who fell in their own land without a fault of their own thanks to the un-invited Americans who did their shit in Afghanistan, ****ed up and now we are supposed to feel sorry for them and ignore the victims of the Land.
This insensitive and discriminatory attitude coming from @Manifesto really surprises me. I always looked up at him as a fair and balanced person with honest and high moral values who supports the underdog.

Remember the American involvement and support of Mujahedeen since the Soviet era in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda, ISIS and likes evolved from the same seed planted and nourished by the CIA and when the bomb they use to destroy innocent nations and people's livelihoods blows in their own face they cut and run and start crying like babies.

Having said that, I definitely feel sorry for the American young soldiers who signed up to defend and protect America but ended up in deserts and foreign landed dying to defend, protect and promote US corporations and criminal industries. But it’s up to the American people to get informed and educated about how their tax dollars are invested and why their children are dying in foreign lands and deserts without winning a single war.

America’s wars have no destination. They are continuous business journeys owned by corporations like the military industrial complex. Only the American people can change that. Until then, resistance is the only answer...

To our young audience that don't know history...

How The CIA Helped Create Osama Bin Laden


Afghans and any other natives dying is not a big of a deal for Imperialist lovers.. as they see all others as barbaric and savages!
It is part of dehumanizing the Afghans and alike, ye3ni you have to dress like us, eat like us, speak like us, walk like us, sleep like us and then maybe we will accept you despite your brown color!

As for @Manifesto I know he is smart enough to know what USA do in their wars and the level of cruelty they are behind but I guess his sexual orientation comes before all this evil! His selfishness-ism is at play here even though he usually like to side with the truth but not this time!
 

أبو علي

Legendary Member
Why would "American assault on Fallouja" cause these birth defects in the first place, what would be causing it exactly?

Good question!
The thing is, would the truth matter to you? meaning would it make any difference?

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How the World Health Organisation covered up Iraq's nuclear nightmare​

Ex-UN, WHO officials reveal political interference to suppress scientific evidence of postwar environmental health catastrophe​


Spc Travis Hunter loads armor-piercing depleted uranium-tipped shells during the second Iraq war


Last month, the World Health Organisation (WHO) published a long awaited document summarising the findings of an in-depth investigation into the prevalence of congenital birth defects (CBD) in Iraq, which many experts believe is linked to the use of depleted uranium (DU) munitions by Allied forces. According to the 'summary report':

"The rates for spontaneous abortion, stillbirths and congenital birth defects found in the study are consistent with or even lower than international estimates. The study provides no clear evidence to suggest an unusually high rate of congenital birth defects in Iraq."

Jaffar Hussain, WHO's Head of Mission in Iraq, said that the report is based on survey techniques that are "renowned worldwide" and that the study was peer reviewed "extensively" by international experts.

Backtrack​

But the conclusions contrasted dramatically from previous statements about the research findings from Iraqi Ministry of Health (MOH) officials involved in the study. Earlier this year, BBC News spoke to MOH researchers who confirmed the joint report would furnish "damning evidence" that rates of birth defects are higher in areas experiencing heavy fighting in the 2003 war. In an early press release, WHO similarly acknowledged "existing MOH statistics showing high number of CBD cases" in the "high risk" areas selected for study.

The publication of this 'summary document' on the World Health Organisation's website has raised questions from independent experts and former United Nations and WHO officials, who question the validity of its findings and its anonymous authorship. They highlight the existence of abundant research demonstrating not only significant rates of congenital birth defects in many areas of Iraq, but also a plausible link to the impact of depleted uranium.

For years, medical doctors in Iraq have reported "a high level of birth defects." Other peer-reviewed studies have documented a dramatic increase in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in the aftermath of US military bombardment. In Fallujah, doctors are witnessing a "massive unprecedented number" of heart defects, and an increase in the number of nervous system defects. Analysis of pre-2003 data compared to now showed that "the rate of congenital heart defects was 95 per 1,000 births - 13 times the rate found in Europe."

The purpose of the WHO study was to probe the data further, but some say the project is deeply flawed.

Politicised science​

Dr. Keith Bavistock of the Department of Environmental Science, University of Eastern Finland, is a retired 13-year WHO expert on radiation and health. He told me that the new 'summary document' was at best "disappointing." He condemned the decision from "the very outset to preclude the possibility of looking at the extent to which the increase of birth defects is linked to the use of depleted uranium", and further slammed the document's lack of scientific credibility.

"This document is not of scientific quality. It wouldn't pass peer review in one of the worst journals. One of the biggest methodological problems, among many, is that the document does not even attempt to look at existing medical records in Iraqi hospitals - these are proper clinical records which document the diagnoses of the relevant cases being actually discovered by Iraqi doctors. These medics collecting clinical records are reporting higher birth defects than the study acknowledges. Instead, the document focuses on interviews with mothers as a basis for diagnosis, many of whom are traumatised in this environment, their memories unreliable, and are not qualified to make diagnosis."
I asked Dr. Baverstock if, given the document's avoidance of analysing the key evidence - clinical records compiled by Iraqi medics - there was reason to believe the research findings were compromised under political pressure. He said:

"The way this document has been produced is extremely suspicious. There are question marks about the role of the US and UK, who have a conflict of interest in this sort of study due to compensation issues that might arise from findings determining a link between higher birth defects and DU. I can say that the US and UK have been very reluctant to disclose the locations of DU deployment, which might throw further light on this correlation."
If so, it would not be the first time the WHO had reportedly quashed research on DU potentially embarrassing for the Allies. In 2001, Baverstock was on the editorial board for a WHO research project clearing the US and UK of responsibility for environmental health hazards involved in DU deployment. His detailed editorial recommendations accounting for new research proving uranium's nature as as a genotoxin (capable of changing DNA) were ignored and overruled:

"My editorial changes were suppressed, even though some of the research was from Department of Defense studies looking at subjects who had ingested DU from friendly fire, clearly proving that DU was genutoxic."
Baverstock then co-authored his own scientific paper on the subject arguing for plausibility of the link between DU and high rates of birth defects in Iraq, but said that WHO blocked publication of the study "because they didn't like its conclusions."

"The extent to which scientific principles are being bent to fit politically convenient conclusions is alarming", said Baverstock.

Environmental contamination from the Iraq War​

Other independent experts have also weighed in criticising the WHO study. The British medical journal, The Lancet, reports that despite the study's claims, a "scientific standard of peer review... may not have been fully achieved."

One scientist named as a peer-reviewer for the project, Simon Cousens, professor of epidemiology and statistics at London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM), told The Lancet that he "attended a relatively brief meeting of around one and a half hours, so just gave some comments on an early presentation of the results. I wouldn't classify that as thorough peer review."

Just how distant the new WHO-sponsored study is from the last decade's scientific literature is clear from a new report released earlier this year by a Tokyo-based NGO, Human Rights Now (HRN), which conducted a review of the existing literature as well as a fact-finding mission to Fallujah.
The HRN report investigated recorded birth defects at a major hospital in Fallujah for the year 2012, confirmed first hand birth defect incidences over a one-month period in 2013, and interviewed doctors and parents of children born with birth defects. The report concluded there was:

"... an extraordinary situation of congenital birth defects in both nature and quantity. The investigation demonstrated a significant rise of these health consequences in the period following the war... An overview of scientific literature relating to the effects of uranium and heavy metals associated with munitions used in the 2003 Iraq War and occupation, together with potential exposure pathways, strongly suggest that environmental contamination resulting from combat during the Iraq War may be playing a significant role in the observed rate of birth defects."
The report criticised both the UN and the WHO for approaches that are "insufficient to meet the needs of the issues within their mandate."

Definitive evidence​

According to Hans von Sponeck, former UN assistant secretary general and UN humanitarian coordinator for Iraq, the gap between previous claims made by MOH researchers about the study, and the new 'summary document', justified public scepticism.

"The brevity of this report is unacceptable", he told me:

"Everybody was expecting a proper, professional scientific paper, with properly scrutinised and checkable empirical data. Although I would be guarded about jumping to conclusions, WHO cannot be surprised if people ask questions about whether the body is giving into bilateral political pressures."
Von Sponeck said that US political pressure on WHO had scuppered previous investigations into the impact of DU on Iraq:

"I served in Baghdad and was confronted with the reality of the environmental impact of DU. In 2001, I saw in Geneva how a WHO mission to conduct on-spot assessments in Basra and southern Iraq, where depleted uranium had led to devastating environmental health problems, was aborted under US political pressure."
I asked him if such political pressure on the UN body could explain the unscientific nature of the latest report. "It would not be surprising if such US pressure has continued", he said:

"There is definitive evidence of an alarming rise in birth defects, leukaemia, cancer and other carcinogenic diseases in Iraq after the war. Looking at the stark difference between previous descriptions of the WHO study's findings and this new report, it seems that someone, somewhere clumsily decided that they would not release these damning findings, but instead obscure them."
The International Coalition to Ban Depleted Uranium (ICBUW) has called for WHO to release the project's data-set so that it can be subjected to independent, transparent analysis. The UN body continues to ignore these calls and defend the integrity of the research.

Dr Nafeez Ahmed is executive director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development and author of A User's Guide to the Crisis of Civilisation: And How to Save It among other books. Follow him on Twitter @nafeezahmed

 

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

Legendary Member
They're accusing US forces of having used depleted uranium against official advice.

Yes, it is true and I expected this response.
However, depleted uranium is no different in any other way from other ammunition and armor material except being more dense and much stronger.

If Iraqis should have problem with it, then US military personnel show have even bigger problems and yet there is nothing of the sort.

The whole issue is politically charged baloney.

If anything causing these problems we should ask Saddam, Homenei, Hezbollah, ...
 

أبو علي

Legendary Member
Yes, it is true and I expected this response.
However, depleted uranium is no different in any other way from other ammunition and armor material except being more dense and much stronger.

If Iraqis should have problem with it, then US military personnel show have even bigger problems and yet there is nothing of the sort.

The whole issue is politically charged baloney.

If anything causing these problems we should ask Saddam, Homenei, Hezbollah, ...


The only baloney is your head!
You two are just answering your own baloney BS!

Answer the question I asked you instead of running away from it!

Would the truth make any difference for you? Clearly you would support this criminal acts no matter what!
You are clearly one of those who also justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki so this is expected from you!

Stay in your denial all you want!

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SeaAb

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Staff member
Super Penguin
Could you please post pictures of all the martyred soldiers?
Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tenn., died Aug. 26 from wounds sustained during the attack at HKIA in Kabul, Afghanistan.
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Manifesto

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Orange Room Supporter

Heartbreaking 😑


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