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proIsrael-nonIsraeli

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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What discussion are you talking about, where are those points you raised, is it by amassing words you barely know how to use in order to sound smart, while you are in fact turning yourself into a total embarrassment.
That's why I eventually decided to drop the whole thing.
 
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  • Picasso

    Picasso

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    That's why I eventually decided to drop the whole thing.
    Sorry but you are not allowed to hitch a free ride here. I have discussed with you many points relating to the state of Israel being Jewish and its implications, yet you avoided them all. This doesn't reflect well on your claimed undeviating posture, meaning in the future, even if you beg me, I wouldn't write arguments trying to stimulate your Zionist rigid mind.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    Sorry but you are not allowed to hitch a free ride here. I have discussed with you many points relating to the state of Israel being Jewish and its implications, yet you avoided them all. This doesn't reflect well on your claimed undeviating posture, meaning in the future, even if you beg me, I wouldn't write arguments trying to stimulate your Zionist rigid mind.
    No, I never avoid anything worth replying.
    You might not like my repsonses, but you cannot claim that you were ignored or dismissed.
     
    Picasso

    Picasso

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    No, I never avoid anything worth replying.
    You might not like my repsonses, but you cannot claim that you were ignored or dismissed.
    I can see that you are about to realize that when your whole scheme is decimated, you are reduced to wording zigzags.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    Legendary Member
    I can see that you are about to realize that when your whole scheme is decimated, you are reduced to wording zigzags.
    I am afraid to ask, but I'll chance it - what schema and what wording zigzag?
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    BBC News

    Iran warns US Navy over Gulf incident
    • 19 April 2020
    • Middle East
    Image copyrightUS NAVY
    Handout photo from US Navy showing Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) vessels near US vessel in the Gulf (15 April 2020)

    Image captionThe US Navy said the Iranian vessels approached at "extremely close range and high speeds".

    Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has accused the US of giving a "Hollywood version of events" over an incident in the Gulf this week.
    The US said Iranian vessels had conducted "harassing" approaches of six of its ships on Wednesday.
    But the IRGC said it had increased patrols in the Gulf after the US Navy blocked the path of an Iranian ship earlier this month.

    Tensions rose after the US killed an Iranian general in Iraq in January.
    The IRGC's statement said that US forces had blocked one of its ships in two separate incidents in early April, using "dangerous behaviour while ignoring warnings".

    It added that Iran would respond "decisively" to any miscalculation.
    The incident on Wednesday came a day after armed men - believed to have been IRGC personnel - seized a Hong Kong-flagged tanker in the Gulf of Oman and redirected it into Iranian waters before releasing it.

    What did the US say happened?
    The US Navy accused Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) of "dangerous and provocative actions" against its vessels, which were involved in a military exercise with US Army Apache attack helicopters in international waters.

    Eleven IRGC Navy vessels repeatedly approached of six US Navy and Coast Guard ships at "extremely close range and high speeds on Wednesday", the US Navy said. One passed within 10 yards (9m) of a Coast Guard cutter.
    "The US crews issued multiple warnings via bridge-to-bridge radio, five short blasts from the ships' horns and long-range acoustic noise maker devices, but received no response from the IRGCN."
    "After approximately one hour, the IRGCN vessels responded to the bridge-to-bridge radio queries, then manoeuvred away from the US ships and opened distance between them," it added.

    Presentational white space

    The US Navy said such "dangerous and provocative actions increased the risk of miscalculation and collision", and were not in accordance with international maritime conventions or customs.

    What's happened in the Gulf?
    The relationship between the two countries has been fraught for decades. But tensions increased after the US withdrew from a nuclear deal and reimposed sanctions on Tehran.
    Last year, Iranian forces seized a British-flagged tanker in retaliation for the seizure of an Iranian tanker by the British territory of Gibraltar. Both vessels were eventually released.
    The US also accused Iran of carrying out attacks on six tankers in the Gulf of Oman and launching missiles and drones at two oil facilities in Saudi Arabia. Iran denied any involvement.
    Animosity between the two countries rose further in January, when the US killed a top IRGC general in a drone strike in Iraq. Iran responded by launching missiles at Iraqi military bases hosting US forces.

    Copyright © 2020 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites.

     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    BBC News

    Iran warns US Navy over Gulf incident
    • 19 April 2020
    • Middle East
    Image copyrightUS NAVY
    Handout photo from US Navy showing Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) vessels near US vessel in the Gulf (15 April 2020)

    Image captionThe US Navy said the Iranian vessels approached at "extremely close range and high speeds".

    Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has accused the US of giving a "Hollywood version of events" over an incident in the Gulf this week.
    The US said Iranian vessels had conducted "harassing" approaches of six of its ships on Wednesday.
    But the IRGC said it had increased patrols in the Gulf after the US Navy blocked the path of an Iranian ship earlier this month.

    Tensions rose after the US killed an Iranian general in Iraq in January.
    The IRGC's statement said that US forces had blocked one of its ships in two separate incidents in early April, using "dangerous behaviour while ignoring warnings".

    It added that Iran would respond "decisively" to any miscalculation.
    The incident on Wednesday came a day after armed men - believed to have been IRGC personnel - seized a Hong Kong-flagged tanker in the Gulf of Oman and redirected it into Iranian waters before releasing it.

    What did the US say happened?
    The US Navy accused Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) of "dangerous and provocative actions" against its vessels, which were involved in a military exercise with US Army Apache attack helicopters in international waters.

    Eleven IRGC Navy vessels repeatedly approached of six US Navy and Coast Guard ships at "extremely close range and high speeds on Wednesday", the US Navy said. One passed within 10 yards (9m) of a Coast Guard cutter.
    "The US crews issued multiple warnings via bridge-to-bridge radio, five short blasts from the ships' horns and long-range acoustic noise maker devices, but received no response from the IRGCN."
    "After approximately one hour, the IRGCN vessels responded to the bridge-to-bridge radio queries, then manoeuvred away from the US ships and opened distance between them," it added.

    Presentational white space

    The US Navy said such "dangerous and provocative actions increased the risk of miscalculation and collision", and were not in accordance with international maritime conventions or customs.

    What's happened in the Gulf?
    The relationship between the two countries has been fraught for decades. But tensions increased after the US withdrew from a nuclear deal and reimposed sanctions on Tehran.
    Last year, Iranian forces seized a British-flagged tanker in retaliation for the seizure of an Iranian tanker by the British territory of Gibraltar. Both vessels were eventually released.
    The US also accused Iran of carrying out attacks on six tankers in the Gulf of Oman and launching missiles and drones at two oil facilities in Saudi Arabia. Iran denied any involvement.
    Animosity between the two countries rose further in January, when the US killed a top IRGC general in a drone strike in Iraq. Iran responded by launching missiles at Iraqi military bases hosting US forces.

    Copyright © 2020 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites.

    We will never know the truth, but I support my Navy regardless.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Don’t cross Mr. Trump’s red lines... it won’t end well;

    The dumbest thing a president can do. He is adding tension to an already tense region through his happy trigger tweeter fingers. He is implicating his men in foreign shores in aggression. And the Iranians would just fold their arms and watch as Mr Trump's baby boys shoot at them. Lol.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    The dumbest thing a president can do. He is adding tension to an already tense region through his happy trigger tweeter fingers. He is implicating his men in foreign shores in aggression. And the Iranians would just fold their arms and watch as Mr Trump's baby boys shoot at them. Lol.
    Oh, pe-eliz, tension-shmansion - downing and/or sinking few Iranian assets is proper and fast way to pop this "tensions" pimple.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Oh, pe-eliz, tension-shmansion - downing and/or sinking few Iranian assets is proper and fast way to pop this "tensions" pimple.
    If that is done within Iranian waters, then it will escalate. The question here is about who's telling the truth. Was the incident in international waters or in Iranian waters?
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    If that is done within Iranian waters, then it will escalate. The question here is about who's telling the truth. Was the incident in international waters or in Iranian waters?
    "If that is done within Iranian waters" - why do you start your sentence with this nonsense.

    It never happens in territorial waters and you do not need to guess "about who's telling the truth" - entire World is monitoring actual phisycal positions of US, Chinese, Russian, etc ... NAVYs.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    I wonder if it is time for opening bets in Vegas on when Ayatollahs will fall.

    "WATCH: Iran suffering ‘inflationary recession,’ says former finance minister"

     
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