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Is Europe paying the price for America’s Project in the Middle East?

Libnene Qu7

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Yet again, the free secular world built on Judeo-Christian culture prooved to the planet that it is by far morally superior to anything else in existence. Yes, this western world is far from perfect and still needs a lot of work, but it is lightyears ahead of the morally bankrupt and self-pompous Arab/Muslim world that so many blind sheep (ahem @Hameed ) tend to love and feel proud of.

Shame on Arabs, shame on Islam, and shame on anyone who believes a word they say.


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Yet again, the free secular world built on Judeo-Christian culture prooved to the planet that it is by far morally superior to anything else in existence. Yes, this western world is far from perfect and still needs a lot of work, but it is lightyears ahead of the morally bankrupt and self-pompous Arab/Muslim world that so many blind sheep (ahem @Hameed ) tend to love and feel proud of.

Shame on Arabs, shame on Islam, and shame on anyone who believes a word they say.
at least we don't throw food to people as if they were animals.

You see I was too disgusted by the sight of those on TV yesterday kissing the TV camera after reaching Macedonia in Greece, each one of them add el ja7esh, as @proIsrael-nonIsraeli said, "they could have joined their national army and fought for their home", but they chose to be treated like animals in Europe with not a bit of dignity.

What Syria provided them, Europe or the capitalist system, cannot and will not provide them. Media stunt for a couple of weeks can work great, but the grim reality will come later.
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J. Abizeid

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Migrant crisis: Record 4,000 go from Serbia to Hungary - BBC News

Migrant crisis: Record 4,000 go from Serbia to Hungary

The number of migrants entering Hungary from Serbia hit a new record on Saturday amid tension in eastern Europe over how to deal with the crisis.

More than 4,000 people walked across the border with Serbia just as the authorities in Hungary were completing preparations to seal the frontier.

Europe is struggling to cope with an enormous influx of people, mostly from Syria, fleeing violence and poverty.

Hungary has been criticised for how it deals with those crossing its border.

Officials estimate that 175,000 migrants have crossed from Serbia into Hungary so far this year.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has promised to seal the country's borders and arrest any illegal migrants. The country is close to finishing a 4m-high (13ft) fence along the border with Serbia.

More than 4,000 Hungarian soldiers have been brought in to help police enforce a ban which Mr Orban has ordered must come into effect on Tuesday.

The BBC's Nick Thorpe - reporting from Szeged near the Hungarian-Serbian border - says the humanitarian infrastructure to deal with the migrants is finally being established at the Roske migrant camp.

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Image caption Hungary has nearly completed work on a 4m-high (13ft) fence along its border with Serbia
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Image caption Hungary is introducing stricter measures on illegal migrants on Tuesday

On Friday, footage emerged of migrants being thrown bags of food at the camp amid criticism that they were being treated like animals.

On Saturday, Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann drew parallels between Hungary's treatment of refugees and Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews.

In response, Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said Mr Faymann's comments were "slanderous".

The 4,000 refugees who walked into Hungary on Saturday were shepherded into a field where dozens of large tents, including those of the UN refugee agency, now stand.

No-one knows what will happen on Tuesday when Mr Orban's crackdown on the migrants is due to begin, our correspondent adds.

Hungary, along with Greece and Italy, has become a frontline state in Europe's migrant crisis, with many crossing from Greece into Macedonia before passing through Serbia to reach the Hungarian border.

Most want to travel on to western Europe by passing through neighbouring Austria, but before they do so the Hungarian authorities say that it is necessary to transport them to camps so that they can be registered.

In Germany, the favoured destination of many migrants, officials said more than 9,000 migrants arrived in Munich on Saturday. The country expects a total of 40,000 to arrive over the weekend.

Chancellor Angela Merkel defended the decision to let in large numbers of refugees, saying she was "convinced it was right".

The crisis has exposed deep divisions within the European Union.

The European Commission has announced plans for obligatory quotas to share out 120,000 additional asylum seekers among 25 member countries.

But the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia oppose being forced to take in new arrivals.

Tens of thousands of people took part in a "day of action" on Saturday in several European cities - and in Australia - in support of refugees and migrants. Some cities also saw counter-demonstrations.

A note on terminology: The BBC uses the term migrant to refer to all people on the move who have yet to complete the legal process of claiming asylum. This group includes people fleeing war-torn countries such as Syria, who are likely to be granted refugee status, as well as people who are seeking jobs and better lives, who governments are likely to rule are economic migrants.

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Yet again, the free secular world built on Judeo-Christian culture prooved to the planet that it is by far morally superior to anything else in existence. Yes, this western world is far from perfect and still needs a lot of work, but it is lightyears ahead of the morally bankrupt and self-pompous Arab/Muslim world that so many blind sheep (ahem @Hameed ) tend to love and feel proud of.

Shame on Arabs, shame on Islam, and shame on anyone who believes a word they say.

While I agree with most of what you said. The western world is far more human than our arab world. But it has nothing to do with Islam. Arabs are backward. Arabs use the name of Islam but not its teachings.
Portraying themselves as islamic doesn't make their actions islamic.

Moreover, as someone said earlier in this thread, they ain't welcoming refugees strictly out of compassion (they could've ended the syrian crisis years ago). They're welcoming them out of self-interest. For example, the population in Germany is indeed aging, they need young people. They will keep the young educated people and send back home the remaining once the syrian planned project comes to an end.
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maybe the Syrians in Lebanon will leave too, the Gov should give them free cargo destination Europe

Actually, they are leaving towards europe. You would be surprised by the amount of Syrians at the european embassies. For example, the german embassy is always loaded with syrians applying for visas ( mostly 'lam shamel' since alot already have a relative there who reached germany by illegal immigration then got settled there ).
I've experienced that while getting my student visa from the german embassy, not a single time I've went there and there wasn't at least 100 syrians in the embassy. And few of them Ive seen each time going out with a stamped visa.

PS: BTW, they even have more time schedule than lebanese for entering the embassy :D


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While I agree with most of what you said. The western world is far more human than our arab world. But it has nothing to do with Islam. Arabs are backward. Arabs use the name of Islam but not its teachings.
Portraying themselves as islamic doesn't make their actions islamic.


what i colored in red would apply if today's Arabs are not operating primarily according to Islamic references, which isn't the case in reality, and purging/dismissing said references would tap into the core of the Islamic religion; hence the reason for that process being opposed by all major Muslim sects. in other words, your claim about Arabs vs Islam is false, and is even deemed as another bullet in the chest of the Muslim populace
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J. Abizeid

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they ain't welcoming refugees strictly out of compassion (they could've ended the syrian crisis years ago). They're welcoming them out of self-interest
That is the most valuable/accurate paragraph I read on this thread!
Keep in mind Germany is the third largest exporter of arms in the world therefore the third beneficiary in the so called business of war...

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Why Germany just closed its borders to refugees - Vox

Why Germany just closed its borders to refugees
Updated by Annett Meiritz and Dara Lind on September 13, 2015, 3:40 p.m. ET

These refugees managed to enter Germany before the country closed its border with Austria. Carsten Koall/Getty

  1. In a shocking development in the European migrant crisis, Germany is immediately introducing border controls in the south of the country, Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière announced on Sunday. The government of Chancellor Angela Merkel claimed "urgent security reasons."
  2. The border controls are supposed to curb the influx of migrants. Currently, tens of thousands of refugees per day find their way to Germany, many of them from civil-war-torn Syria.
  3. The announcement is in stark contradiction to the principle of open borders, to which most EU member states, including Germany, have committed. Apparently Germany wants to increase the pressure on the European Union to finally find an EU-wide solution to the refugee crisis.
The decision marks a surprising turnaround in Germany’s attitude toward the European refugee crisis
Germany is introducing temporary controls on its southern border with neighbor country Austria to cope with the influx of migrants, German interior minister Thomas de Maizière announced on Sunday. "The aim of this measure is to limit the current flow to Germany and to come back to an orderly process at entry," de Maizière said at a hastily called news conference. He also claimed "urgent security reasons".

The decision marks a surprising turnaround in Germany’s dealing with the current refugee crisis. The government of Chancellor Angela Merkel had recently followed a policy of open borders and taken a moral leadership role in the refugee crisis. For example, she had announced Germany’s intention to take up considerably more refugees and provided for six billion euros in emergency aid.

However, now Germany clearly wants to show that it’s not willing nor able to solve the refugee crisis alone. By closing the borders, the country increases the pressure on its EU partners tremendously to take their share of the burden.

Germany's controls at the borders apply until further notice
Questions from journalists were not admitted at the press conference with the interior minister on Sunday. He explained the details for the radical measure in under three minutes:

  • De Maizière pointed out the high number of refugees, who frequently first travel after escaping from their home countries to Austria and then start their way to Germany. On Saturday alone, 12,000 new refugees arrived in the Bavarian capital Munich. Germany expects a total of up to 800,000 refugees this year.
  • Until recently, Germany had these refugees granted free travel. Now, this no longer applies, and entering Germany is supposed to be possible with valid travel documents only.
  • The Federal Police is now sending all available police officers to Bavaria to close the borders. There are even considerations to use German soldiers to secure the borders. You can see consequences of the decision already: The Deutsche Bahn, Germany’s railway company, closed service between Austria and Germany for 12 hours Sunday at the government's request.
Germany is intensifying the pressure on less committed EU member states
As the interior minister pointed out, Germany's actions buy it some time to cope with the large crowds of people who have already entered Germany.

But the more important signal of the decision goes to the European Union: Up to this point and no further.

Some EU countries, such as Germany or Sweden, are currently taking on a lot of refugees. Other EU member states such as Britain, Poland or Slovakia, refuse to take in significantly higher numbers of refugees.

This is something Germany apparently no longer wants to accept.

On Monday, all 28 EU interior ministers will meet for an emergency summit to discuss the refugee crisis. Therefore, the timing of Germany´s decision is well considered to increase the pressure on less committed EU member states and urge them to make some concessions.

The interior minister made clear that the burden of incoming refugees from civil war countries like Syria would force action from every single EU member state. "I demand that all European member states stick to that in the future," he went on.

Angela Merkel is under pressure herself
Germany’s decision also is supposed to discourage refugees from rushing towards Germany. Most asylum seekers wish to stay in Germany when they arrive at EU borders. However, they must apply for asylum in the EU country in which they first arrive. Refugees could "not simply wish for her host country" emphasized Merkel’s interior minister.

The turnaround in asylum policy has domestic political reasons, too. While Merkel had received international praise for her open border strategy, the resistance from parts of her conservative party have grown immensely. For example, the chairman of the conservative sister party and coalition partner CSU, Horst Seehofer, accused Merkel of a "gross misjudgment" in the migrant crisis.

On a broader EU level, Germany’s radical measure is also remarkable. With closing parts of its borders, Germany temporarily revokes the so-called Schengen agreement, which provides free travels within the EU borders.

Most EU member states have committed themselves to the Schengen agreement. So this development is not a good sign for the state of the European Union, which defines itself as a group of cooperating and deeply tied partner countries.

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As human flood continues, Germany slaps controls on border with Austria - The Washington Post

As human flood continues, Germany slaps controls on border with Austria

Migrant children cook sweetcorn picked from fields next to the railway track at the Hungarian border with Serbia on Sept. 12, 2015 in Roszke, Hungary. Migrants are rushing to the border due to fears and rumors that the borders will soon close before the official closure of midnight on Monday.

BERLIN — Facing an unstaunchable flood of migrants and refugees, Germany on Sunday said it was reaching a breaking point and would implement emergency controls on its border with Austria, temporarily suspending train service and conducting highway checks along the main pipeline for thousands seeking sanctuary in Western Europe.

The move signaled the extent of the crisis confronting Europe, a region where a decades-long policy of open borders, once a source of pride and unity, is eroding as nations struggle to cope with a record flow of migrants. Only last week, Denmark temporarily closed a highway and suspended trains on its southern border with Germany, and French authorities have searched for migrants on trains crossing from Italy.

Yet even as Germany moved to restore “order” to the chaotic inflow, the death toll continued to jump. Off a Greek island on Sunday, 34 refugees, including four babies and 11 boys and girls, drowned when their wooden boat overturned and sank. It appeared to mark the worst loss of life in those waters since the migrant crisis began.

Berlin says the emergency on its southeastern border is a question of national security. Germany has thus far stepped in to take in the most asylum seekers of any European Union nation, but its ability to aid refugees is being tested amid a record surge of 40,000 migrants over the weekend — from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, among other countries. Officials in the besieged state of Bavaria, for instance, declared they have run out of space to house refugees.

Coupled with an expected move by Hungary on Tuesday to reinforce its southern border with Serbia, the German action suggested that migrants may now face tougher barriers as they seek safety and hope.

“The aim of this measure is to restrict the current flow to Germany and to return to an orderly procedure of immigration,” German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière said Sunday. He implied that many asylum seekers were trying to reach Germany because of its generous refugee benefits and seemed to fault other European nations for not stepping up to do more: “Asylum seekers have to accept that they cannot just choose the member state of the European Union granting them protection.”
In Germany, the new measures were already taking force. The German state-owned railway company Deutsche Bahn announced that train traffic from Austria to Germany would be suspended until 5 a.m. Monday. Bavarian officials said checks were starting on highways linking Austria to Germany, while the German Federal Police said that “all available units” were being rapidly dispatched to the border to help carry out checks.

At the main train station in Vienna, hundreds of desperate migrants were camped out and waiting for word on whether and how they could move on. Austrian authorities were telling them to board buses to overnight shelters, but many refused for fear they would miss their chance to leave in the morning for Germany.

“We came all this way because we want to live in Germany, and were so happy when we reached Austria, because in Hungary we were treated so badly, and now we have the message that the trains have been stopped,” said Kamal, 50, an Iraqi from Basra traveling with five other men. He declined to give his last name to protect his family back home.

Ivo Priebe, spokesman for the German Federal Police, said he was not aware of any bottlenecks due to the new controls. He said that not every car would be checked but that officers would conduct stop-and-search patrols on highways, roads and railway crossings. Several hundred police officers had been sent into the border region by car and by helicopter earlier on Sunday, he said.

“We know the paths they are using and will carry out increased controls there,” he said. He did not know how long the checks would be in place, he said, calling them the result of a “political decision.”

Indeed, the move highlighted the backlash brewing against the open-arms policy on asylum seekers taken by Chancellor Angela Merkel. Within her ruling coalition, many are still smarting over her recent decision to allow in tens of thousands of refugees stranded in Hungary. As Germany struggles to cope – turning army barracks, schools and former hardware stores into impromptu shelters – some politicians have called Merkel’s decision into serious question, arguing that the nation cannot provide sanctuary to all.

On Sunday, Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann said at a news conference in Munich that cars would be monitored at the border in order to capture human traffickers and allow refugees to request asylum upon being stopped. But he said those who had already applied for asylum elsewhere in the E.U. — for instance, in Hungary or Austria — would be sent back to those countries in accordance with European laws.

“Unchecked immigration on the scale of the past days constitutes a serious threat for the public safety and order in Germany,” said Herrmann, a member of the Christian Social Union, sister party of Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU).

Depending on how long the stricter German border measures last, the decision could potentially spark new bottlenecks in Austria that could ripple into Hungary as well as other countries transited by those fleeing conflict and poverty.

The German decision amounted to the latest blow against open borders in Europe, a policy dating back to the 1985 Schengen Agreement that today allows free movement across 26 nations. Assuming the new German checks are limited in duration, they would not violate the agreement, which allows nations to institute border restrictions under certain circumstances.

Germany, for instance, has set aside the agreement in the past for major international summits, and Belgium did so in 2000 during a major European soccer tournament, said Pieter Cleppe, head of the Brussels office of Open Europe, a regional think tank.

The open borders treaty, he said, is not in immediate danger. But, he warned, “if temporary closures start becoming a de facto permanent set of border controls, we may be seeing the end of Schengen.”

The 28-nation E.U. is deeply divided over a plan backed by Germany and France to issue new migrant quotas to all nations. De Maizière on Sunday said Germany, which is expecting 800,000 asylum applications this year, could not shoulder the burden alone.

“The German readiness to help must not be overstretched,” he said. “The measure therefore is also a signal to Europe.”

E.U. interior ministers are meeting Monday in Brussels to discuss the disputed proposal for quotas and other regional efforts to contain the crisis.

Migrants and refugees continued to stream into Hungary over the weekend, as thousands of families from the Middle East and Africa tried to reach Europe before Hungarian authorities initiate a crackdown next week.

Meanwhile, governments continued to bicker about how to cope with the influx. Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann, in an interview with German news magazine Der Spiegel, compared Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s treatment of refugees to the Nazis’ deportation of Jews.

“Sticking refugees in trains and sending them somewhere completely different to where they think they’re going reminds us of the darkest chapter of our continent’s history,” he said.

Hungary’s foreign minister retorted that such comments were “totally unworthy of any leading 21st-century European politician” and counterproductive to solving the crisis, according to the Associated Press.

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EU to hold emergency meeting on refugee crisis - RTÉ News

EU to discuss relocating 160,000 refugees across Europe
Monday 14 September 2015 06.20

Refugees arrive in Berlin on a special train from Munich
Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald will join her EU counterparts in Brussels this afternoon for an emergency meeting on the deepening refugee crisis.

Ministers will discuss the European Commission's proposals to relocate 160,000 refugees across Europe and a permanent mechanism to allocate those seeking asylum in Europe through the use of binding quotas.

Yesterday, Germany closed its borders with Austria, effectively suspending the Schengen free travel area.

It said it was overwhelmed by the numbers of those flocking to Germany through its southern border.

One week ago German Chancellor Angela Merkel won plaudits for effectively opening Germany's doors to refugees fleeing the civil war in Syria.

Now following another surge of people pushing up through Serbia, Hungary and Austria to seek a new life in Germany the country has been forced into a change of direction.

The authorities in Munich say 13,000 people arrived on Saturday and a further 3,000 yesterday.

They say they simply can no longer cope.

Germany's interior minister Thomas de Maiziere said the move was temporary and was permitted within the Schengen rules.

However, it will reinforce Germany's argument that other countries need to share the burden.

That discussion will dominate today's meeting of justice ministers in Brussels.

Countries such as Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic remain bitterly opposed to any binding quotas for refugees.

Hungary will even introduce a law this week that anyone illegally entering the country will face prison.

Such is the sensitivity of the issue that it may have to wait until EU leaders meet in mid-October before agreement can be reached.

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Lebanon village hosts more Syrian refugees than the entire U.S.

Lebanon village hosts more Syrian refugees than the entire U.S.

KETERMAYA, Lebanon — There is a small village in the mountains of Lebanon that is hosting more Syrian refugees than all 50 U.S. states combined.

Situated at the southern end of the Mount Lebanon range, Ketermaya is a quiet little place surrounded by patches of farmland. Much of the traffic in the area goes to and from a nearby cement factory.

It isn't a particularly wealthy town, but the residents here have taken in thousands of refugees fleeing the war in Syria.

"We have a history of welcoming refugees," says Ali Tafesh, a local business owner. "In 2006 we did the same," he adds, referring to the displacement of people caused by Israel's invasion of southern Lebanon that year.

Tafesh has done more than most. When Syrian families started to arrive in the town in the early days of the civil war, he arranged housing for them. When there were no more places left to stay he offered up his own land.

"We built the first tent for two families. Then more people came and we built a second, and then it just kept growing," he says.

The International Organization for Migration (IOM) says more than 350,000 migrants were detected at the European Union's borders between January and August of this year, compared with 280,000 for the whole of 2014. The organization says that many more went in undetected.

European leaders have struggled to find a coherent solution to a worsening refugee crisis within its borders. Germany has led the way, promising to take in half a million refugees annually over several years. Hungary, meanwhile, is in the process of introducing harsh new laws that would target migrants and rushing to build an anti-migrant fence on its southern border.

The U.S. has resettled 1,500 Syrian refugees since war broke out in 2011 (the small village of Ketermaya hit this number in July 2014), and aims for that number to reach 5,000 by the end of the year. President Obama announced Thursday that he had ordered his administration to prepare for double that number in 2016. Aid agencies have said this is not enough: Oxfam America had been calling for the U.S. to resettle 70,000 Syrian refugees.

But compared to the crisis facing Lebanon, the numbers reaching Europe are a drop in the ocean.

Sihan and Ibrahim stand with their children outside their home at an informal refugee camp for Syrians in Ketermaya, Lebanon. (Photo: Richard Hall, GlobalPost)

A warm welcome

There are currently more than one million registered Syrian refugees in Lebanon (the actual number of refugees is thought to be much higher). If you include the estimated number of unregistered refugees, Syrians now account for more than a quarter of the country's population. The Chouf region, where Ketermaya is located, is hosting nearly 60,000 refugees.

In some areas, the influx has put a strain on the local population as they now have to compete for jobs and resources with a greater number of people.

There are no official refugee camps in Lebanon. Instead, refugees are scattered across the country and make their home on whatever land they can find. Some make arrangements with landowners before building their shelters. Others build and then wait for their landlords to arrive, asking for rent.

Tafesh hosts 330 Syrians on his one-acre plot — a stony patch of land on the side of a hill, with olive trees scattered in between makeshift tents. At his own expense, he built a toilet and installed running water into the camp.

He doesn't charge the residents of this camp, but people like him are in the minority. Most refugees pay rent to landowners, even when their accommodation is little more than a wooden shack.

"I wasn't using my land for business purposes so I could afford to let people stay here. Others are not so lucky," says Tafesh.

The crisis is visible all over Lebanon. Mothers beg on the streets of Beirut with their children in tow; others sell their wares by the side of the road. In the north and east of the country settlements are built by the side of the road.

Most of these settlements exist at the mercy of the elements. In the winter they are bashed around and sometimes destroyed by storms, and in the summer they are often too hot to bear staying inside.

School dayz at an informal camp for Syrian refugees in Ketermaya. Residents of the camp built it themselves from wood and old palettes.

'No other choice'

While some Syrians are making the journey to Europe, others do not have the money or other means to get there. Many of those who fled to Lebanon did so because it was the only option open to them.

Sihan left her hometown of Qusayr with her husband and four children in 2013, after their house was destroyed in a government airstrike. She pulls back the hair of her young son Muhammad to reveal a small scar on the side of his head made by the explosion.

"We have no other choice but to be here," she says. "We are sitting here with nothing. My husband is not working so we have no money for rent. It's hard in the winter and in the summer."

The UN is currently facing a funding shortfall that means refugees here barely have enough to survive on. Sihan and her family receive $13 per person per month from the UN for food, and often it won't last two weeks.

"Thank God we have this tent," says Sihan. "Lebanon is not able to look after its own people, how are they going to look after Syrians as well?"

Despite the miserable living conditions for refugees in Lebanon, not everyone wants to go to Europe.

Ahmed, an Arabic literature graduate, came to Lebanon from the Damascus suburb of Ghouta three years ago, bringing his wife and two children. He and a few other camp residents built a school among the tents and now he teaches the children in the camp.

"I don't want to go to Europe," he says. Even if someone says I can go I don't want to."

He says that going to Europe would make it less likely he would return to Syria one day.

"Everyone loves their country. If the bombing stopped I would go back home. I am here because I want my children to be safe."

Employment prospects are dim for the camp's residents. Sihan's husband Ibrahim can earn $20 a day working in construction, but the work is irregular.

Save the Children was running a school in the area which recently ran out of funding. It is to reopen soon, providing full time education for children up to the age of 12.

Ahmed, a teacher at a school built by residents of the camp in Ketermaya, Lebanon. He says that going to Europe would make it less likely he would return to Syria one day. (Photo: Richard Hall, GlobalPost)

A dangerous journey

Sihan and Ibrahim say they have thought about going elsewhere, but wonder where they would get the money to move.

When asked if Gulf countries should do more to help Syrian refugees, Ibrahim replies: "In Kuwait, they have big parties with fireworks. The amount they spend on that could feed the Syrian population."

The couple would like to go to Europe, but they fear the journey is too dangerous.

"We would go if we thought it was safe. We don't want to get thrown out of a boat," says Ibrahim.

The whole family is weary from their ordeal. They entered the country illegally by traversing the Anti-Lebanon mountains on the border with Syria.

Sihan, it seems, would like to wait a little while longer before making another arduous journey.

"We came over a mountain to get here. We are not ready to do it again."


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The people who fled Syria for Lebanon – in pictures | Art and design | The Guardian

The people who fled Syria for Lebanon – in pictures
Lebanon is 400 times smaller than the European Union and has 1.2 million Syrian refugees, who have lived through bomb blasts and chemical attacks and are now in illegal tent cities or packed into small apartments. They share their extraordinary stories with photographer Marieke van der Velden and her film-maker husband, Philip Brink

  • Baraa, 10, from Eastern Ghouta. She now lives in a wooden hut in a refugee camp in Lebanon

    ‘It became very scary in my street. Our building was close to the al-Fateh hospital and was under fire every day by the army. We fled and tried to get cars to stop and take us a little further. I really miss not being able to go to school here – so I’ve started my own school. Every morning, I’m giving maths and language classes to the little children of the camp. I really want to know how all of my friends are doing. Sometimes I think that they are all dead. Maybe they think that about me, too’

  • Wassim (left), 18, from Tell Nasri, and his cousin Shabi. Wassim lives in his aunt’s apartment in Beirut.

    ‘I was in my first year of university when the Islamic State attacked our village. We fled in panic and we arrived in Beirut three days ago. We don’t know what the future will bring and how to continue our studies – not that Syrian diplomas make any difference here. My cousin’s husband was a lawyer in Syria, but in Beirut he has the greatest difficulty in finding a job at a falafel bar’


  • Seif (left), 10, from Damascus, and his cousin Ibrahim. Seif lives in a refugee camp with his uncle and cousin.

    ‘I was building a fire with my nephews when a bomb fell. They were killed instantly. My lower leg was injured. A stranger put me in his car and took me to a hospital. I was still there when there was a chemical attack on our neighbourhood. My brothers and sisters were dead. When my father heard the news, he had a heart attack and died, too. I fled to Lebanon with my mum, who decided to go back. Now I live with my uncle and Ibrahim, who is my best friend. We still make fires every day’


  • Iyman, 63, from Aleppo, who now lives in a wooden hut in a refugee camp in Lebanon with her seven grandchildren.

    ‘A war starts with simple things, like standing in line for bread. After that, everything goes wrong. Our house was completely destroyed by the regime and I lost four sons and daughters. The Syrian intelligence locked me up for 17 days, and I was beaten and tortured. I fled to Lebanon with my grandchildren. We now live in a tent and I have no idea what to do. There is no school’


  • Satouf, 51, from Hama. He now lives with his wife and 10 children in a tent in a camp in Lebanon.

    ‘Five years ago, I lived with my wife and eight children in the countryside of Hama. A number of family members were taxi drivers and I picked up milk from the farmers to take to the milk factory. When I look back on it now, yes, I can say I was happy. But slowly, the situation changed. Food became very expensive and later on, there were shootings in our area. With our children, we ended up here in this tent city’


  • One of Satouf’s daughters. A teacher drew a butterfly on her cheek


  • The TV inside Satouf’s tent. He lives here with his wife and 10 children


  • Abou Badwi (not his real name), 48, from Homs. He now lives in a refugee camp in Lebanon.

    ‘I’m a mechanic, specialising in Range Rovers. I owned two garages in Homs with seven employees and an adjoining shop for car parts with a total inventory of $140,000. Now there is nothing. The real drama began with a demonstration against the mayor of Homs in February 2012. Hundreds of people were killed. After a very difficult journey, we ended up here. Even though everything has been flattened, I still stand firmly behind the revolution. I’m a Syrian’


  • One of Lebanon’s illegal refugee camps. Small camps dot the landscape


  • Raghida, 29, and her children are from the district of Hama and now live in a small apartment in south Beirut.

    ‘In Syria we were farmers – we grew vegetables and cotton. But when the fighting broke out around our village we no longer felt safe. My husband travelled to Beirut to arrange an apartment for me and our children. It costs $400 a month – an astronomical figure. My husband spends every day trying to earn money as a plumber. We hope to return as soon as possible to our house in Syria. It’s still there’


  • Hussein, 38, from Chara. He now lives in a refugee camp in Lebanon with his wife and son.

    ‘When the war started there was initially nothing wrong in our village. Life went on as it always had. But a while later came the checkpoints. It was very strange to have a stop on a road you have travelled on a thousand times. Later on, we were surrounded along with other villages and we were threatened. I decided to go along with my wife and four-year-old son, Zakria, temporarily to Lebanon in the hope of being able to return after a few months. Four years later, we are still here’



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Germany's economy will grow faster because of the million refugees it is helping, study finds

Research published today suggests a 0.6 per cent GDP boost by 2020 and lower inflation


Thursday 17 September 2015

Germany’s economy will get a significant growth boost over the next few years because of the hundreds of thousands of refugeesit is taking in, according to an economic analysis published today.

The research, released by Oxford Economics, suggests that an influx of a million people over the next three years would raise the country’s GDP by 0.6 per cent by 2020.

The economists said that as well as increasing economic growth, the influx of people could also reduce inflationary pressures – which would give the government more room for economic stimulus.

“The increase in the number of refugees moving to Europe and other parts of the world is primarily a humanitarian issue, but it will also have economic ramifications for destination countries and, within the Eurozone, Germany in particular,” the researchers said.

The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel“We estimate that if, relative to our baseline assumption, an extra million asylum seekers enter Germany over the next three years this could raise GDP by 0.6 per cent by end-2020 and reduce inflationary pressures. But it would not solve the economy’s longer-term demographic problems.”

0.6 per cent GDP growth is roughly equivalent to a quarter's decent economic growth in recent years. Germany, like most Western countries, has an aging population, a fact an influx of fairly young people would slightly moderate.

Germany’s vice chancellor has previously suggested that the country could accept a million refugees in this year alone, meaning the boost could be even larger than expected.


“There are many signs that Germany this year will take in not 800,000 refugees, as forecast by the interior ministry, but one million,” Sigmar Gabriel said.

Mr Gabriel has previously said the country could then accept half a million refugees each year for the next few years.

Earlier this week Conservative MP Bill Cash told the House of Commons that it was in Germany’s economic interest to accept the refugees.

“Some of their policies have clearly been orientated to assisting their own internal economic problems,” he said – before decrying the number of people entering Europe as a “tsunami”.

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The economic benefits of migration are well-researched and established. A study published by the London School of Economics earlier this year found that immigration to Britain had not increased unemployment or reduced wages in areas where it had occurred.

Last month the Institute of Directors attacked the Government for “punishing business” with its “bizarre” and “unachievable” target reduce net migration.

Britain has pledged only to take 4,000 Syrian refugees a year for the next five years, a small-scale commitment which is unlikely to have a significant economic effect.

The UK has however contributed a significant amount of overseas aid to improve the situation on the ground in Syria.


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How sad...

Denmark launches anti-migrant ad campaign

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The Danish immigration ministry has placed adverts in leading Lebanese newspapers to discourage refugees from heading to Denmark. #Denmark runs adverts in #Lebanon newspapers warning would-be #refugees to stay away https:/

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Refugee crisis: Lebanon is doing its bit to help its neighbour Syria - Voices - The Independent

Refugee crisis: Lebanon is doing its bit to help its neighbour Syria

Refugees have swelled the population by more than a third. It urgently needs help if it is to sustain a generation's hopes

Enrolment for the new school term began on Monday in Lebanon. But this is no ordinary school term. This is the start of a an academic year so different from any other that I want the international community to wake up to the peril we face. By the end of this year the refugee population in our schools could exceed Lebanon’s state school numbers.

Last year, we managed to offer school places to 105,000 Syrian refugees. We took them off the streets where they were prey to child traffickers and terrorist propaganda. We did so with a unique double-shift system that allows pupils to study in French and English in the first half of the now extended school day and Syrian refugee students to study in Arabic in the second half.

This year we want to do better. We now have 400,000 school-age Syrian refugees on the streets of our country, and we wanted to offer at least 200,000 places in formal school. We have opened up 100 more schools as double-shift schools. But while we have been able to offer 140,000 places, we are still 60,000 places short of our planned intake.
And if we can’t raise the numbers to 200,000 places this year, our plans to meet the longer term goal – to offer schooling to what could eventually be 500,000 refugee children – will be frustrated. If we are able to provide these spaces, young people can learn the valuable skills needed to return home, rebuild their countries and future.

And this is the tragic irony: usually in an emergency the facilities cannot be found, but in Lebanon, the schools are there, and the teachers ready to teach. Certainly we need more help to advertise the offer of places to the Syrian families in Lebanon, but the real gap keeping us from educating more is the absence of money to fund them.
Lebanon is being asked to do what no other country has to face – to take in a refugee population soon to equal one-third of our resident population.

I doubt if any country in the world could cope. But amid all the pressures we daily confront, we have offered to help the refugees. The question I ask leaders of the international community: why will you not help us to do more?

It is in the best interest of the entire international community that this initiative is a success. We all want Syrians to be able to return home to a peaceful Syria. Supporting the education of these children helps families to remain in the region and have hope that they will soon return and no longer need to continue dangerous journeys to Europe and beyond.

Under the leadership of Gordon Brown, the UN Special Envoy for Global Education, a new plan covering Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan has been drawn up, and he is now trying to raise the vitally needed additional money of nearly $250m from new donors and traditional givers.

But now is the most testing time. We can either deliver the places or have to live forever with a lost generation denied schooling, denied security and worst of all denied hope, on the streets with all the consequences for disconnect and even the stability of our country.

Families I meet do not want to embark on dangerous voyages to Europe. That is not their first choice. They want to ensure their children have hope for the future and they want to be well-placed nearby for their eventual return to Syria. But the people of Lebanon cannot help them without proper funding from the international community.

I urge the world to come to the aid of our troubled country before it’s too late.


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- US&co are responsible for the refugee crisis.
- Xenophobic reactions are to be expected.
- Bottomline is too clear, change is inevitable, it is only the rate at which it happens that upsets us (btw also applies to Lebanon).

September 25, 2015
The Decline of the Western Ethnic State

by Lawrence Davidson

If you were transported back to Europe in 1900 and asked educated citizens to describe the ideal political arrangement, what they would outline to you is a homogeneous nation-state: France for the French, Germany for the Germans, Italy for the Italians, and the like. They would note exceptions, but describe them as unstable. For instance, at this time the Austro-Hungarian Empire was, ethnically, a very diverse place, but it was politically restless. Come World War I, ethnic desires for self-rule and independence would help tear this European-centered multinational empire apart. In truth, even those states that fancied themselves ethnically unified were made up of many regional outlooks and dialects, but the friction these caused was usually minor enough to allow the ideal of homogeneity to prevail. The ethnically unified nation-state was almost everyone’s “ideal state.”

This standard of homogeneity started to break down after World War II. After this war the foreign empires run by many of Europe’s homogeneous states were in retreat and in their wake came a slew of new nations in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Simultaneously, the impact of the end of empire on the European nations was to have their own homogeneous status eroded. For instance, when Great Britain set up the Commonwealth as a substitute for empire she allowed freer immigration into England for Commonwealth citizens. The result was an influx of people of color from former British colonies in Africa, India-Pakistan and the Caribbean. A similar thing happened as the French empire crumbled. With its demise many North Africans, as well as Vietnamese Catholics, went to France. Later, Turks would go to Germany, a preference that reflected the close relations between Berlin and the defunct Ottoman Empire. Then came the formation of the European Union (EU) in 1993, which facilitated the flow of labor across European borders. Now citizens of one EU state could go and work in any other member state.

In other words, the twenty or thirty years following World War II marked the beginning of the end of the Western homogeneous state.

The Refugee Crisis

Now we may be witnessing the final stage of that demise. The present refugee crisis resulting from wars raging in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen and Libya, among other places in the Middle East, has set in movement millions of displaced people. Many of these refugees are heading for Europe.

While initially most of the European Union leaders showed some willingness to take in substantial numbers of refugees, strong resistance from Hungary, Romania, Slovakia and the Czech Republic caused a pause in the effort. This was a predictable moment. All established populations, even relatively diverse ones, fear that their cultural norms and economic advantages will be threatened by large waves of new immigrants. At the extreme, one finds ideologically and religiously defined nations such as the Arab Gulf states and the allegedly Westernized Israel (itself a product of an overwhelming refugee invasion of Palestine) refusing to take in any of the present refugees. Even in a country such as the United States, which is historically built upon the inflow of diverse populations, it is politically difficult to open borders to new refugees in need. Initially, announcing a willingness to allow an embarrassingly small number of 10,000 refugees to enter, Washington has increased that to 100,000 between now and 2017.

Getting back to the European scene, the pressures now building on the borders eventually resulted in a EU decision, allegedly binding on all its 28 member states, to speed up the intake screening process for refugees and distribute the accepted numbers across the EU countries. How many will ultimately be allowed into Europe is still unclear. If the leaders of Europe are smart about it they will go beyond merely symbolic numbers. If they are not, then there will be concentration camps on their borders and eventual violence that will mark a dark period in their supposed civilized histories. Controlled or not, in the end, many of the refugees will probably find a way in.

Ironic Justice

There is ironic justice in this prospect. After all, the wars that have uprooted so many were triggered by Western intervention in the Middle East. One can thank George W. Bush and his neoconservative colleagues (along with British allies) for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. That action set loose the forces that have subsequently displaced the people who make up the bulk of today’s refugees. To this can be added the 2011 NATO intervention in the civil war in Libya, in which France, Italy and the U.S. led the way. This action has prolonged the anarchy in that country and is one of the reasons that 300,000 people attempted to cross the Mediterranean Sea in the direction of Europe in 2015 alone. At least 2,500 of them died in the attempt.

It is a testimony to the fact that the average citizen has little knowledge and less interest in their nation’s foreign policies that few in Europe and the U.S. recognize, much less acknowledge, responsibility for the present disaster.

The population in western and central Europe has been shifting in the direction of diversity for the last seventy years, and that of the United States more or less consistently since the nation’s founding. Along with diversity comes a complementary, if perhaps more gradual, shift in culture.

Opposing this historical trend is the fact that anti-immigrant resistance among established national populations is almost a default position. However, this is like spitting in the wind. In the long term, the evolution of populations moves from homogeneity to diversity. It is just a matter of how long the process takes.

Thus, from every angle, ethical as well as historical, the way to approach the present refugee crisis is to allow, in a controlled but adequately responsive way, the inflow of those now running from the ravages of invasion and civil war.

In so doing we should accept the demise of the homogeneous state. Whether it is Germany, France, Hungary, Israel or Burma, the concept is historically untenable and neither raises nor even maintains our civilizational standards. Rather it grinds them down into the dust of an inhumane xenophobia.

Lawrence Davidson is professor of history at West Chester University in West Chester, PA.