Israehelli Aggression and Hezballah's Retaliation

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    vicking747

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    Who claims the US is “Christian?” America operates according to its Constitution. Sure, people from specific religions may have considerable influence in terms of swaying public policy (mostly Christian Evangelicals and Jews), but that’s simply a reflection of the power and wealth those groups exhibit.

    As to your second claim, Jesus- unlike Moses and Muhammad- was a purely spiritual figure. He never assumed a political role, and thus didn’t have to make political/military decisions. This doesn’t mean he was a “better” prophet, nor does it mean that he was inherently superior to those other men.

    Also, Islam was largely spread through trade, especially in Asia. In the Middle East, the Arabian nomad warriors preferred to live outside the Levantinian regions that they conquered (in inhabitations called garrison towns). This explains why it took centuries for Muslims to become a majority in the Middle East. Indeed, sometimes the Caliphs preferred that their non-Muslim subjects not convert for tax revenue purposes....

    The spread of Christianity was not exclusively peaceful. One salient example would be South America....
    This post is an attempt to prove something that doesn’t exist. You are either really believing your own words or you are not and this would be worst as it would show doubts in your faith.

    a lot of armies, invasions and massacres were done by Christian commanders calling themselves Christians. Are they Christians ? Yes by name but they are not applying Christianity. Jesus never gave green light to invade with the sword the world. Jesus is ONLY Love. Humans have no mandate to judge or punish unlike Islam which has a whole Shariaa section. God asked us to leave judgement to Him. It would be a big sin for us to punish or judge.

    So yes the effect of these invasions were the mass conversion of people to Christianity such as in South America but this was not what Jesus wanted as it was done by massacring the locals. However the vast majority of people converted as they saw Jesus resurrecting. Read the New Testament and see how people were begging Jesus for miracles. Read about Lazarus. He died and Jesus resurrected Him in front of many people. How do you think people would convert otherwise?

    Christianity sure needs to be spread, it is the ONLY way to save Humans for them to be welcomed by God. Christianity is not a Religion, it is the only way to adhere. There should not be other religions as people who do not follow God will not be welcomed by Him after death. This is not a joke or a viewpoint, it is eternal life versus eternal death. Christians do not recognise any other God or Prophet as instructed in the Bible.

    Islam got spread by the sword under the orders of Prophet Mohamed. He launched military expeditions in many regions Read about Safia.
    She was the daughter of a powerful Jewish governor in the tribe of Banu. Mohamed conquered the city (Khaybar) after harsh military battle that he was personally directing. Once the Banu tribe lost, he offered to Saffyia to convert to Islam and marry him which she did. The dark side of the story says that she agrees so she could get revenge and kill him. Anyway they didn’t have kids and Mohamad married many others.
    This gives you a direct comparison between Jesus who only spread God’s message through LOVE and sacrifice versus Mohamed who directed many military expeditions and imposed conversion to Islam
    Christians respect Jews, Muslims and the others however we don’t believe in anything related to Islam nor any other teaching
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    🔴 *قناة " الحدث " : اسرائيل بعثت برسالة إلى حزب الله عبر الأمم المتحدة تفيد بامتناعها عن استهداف عناصره في سوريا وأن أي رد للحزب سيقابل بتدمير 6 اهداف حساسة للمقاومة*
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    a lot of armies, invasions and massacres were done by Christian commanders calling themselves Christians. Are they Christians ? Yes by name but they are not applying Christianity. Jesus never gave green light to invade with the sword the world. Jesus is ONLY Love. Humans have no mandate to judge or punish unlike Islam which has a whole Shariaa section. God asked us to leave judgement to Him. It would be a big sin for us to punish or judge.

    So yes the effect of these invasions were the mass conversion of people to Christianity such as in South America but this was not what Jesus wanted as it was done by massacring the locals. However the vast majority of people converted as they saw Jesus resurrecting. Read the New Testament and see how people were begging Jesus for miracles. Read about Lazarus. He died and Jesus resurrected Him in front of many people. How do you think people would convert otherwise?

    Christianity sure needs to be spread, it is the ONLY way to save Humans for them to be welcomed by God. Christianity is not a Religion, it is the only way to adhere. There should not be other religions as people who do not follow God will not be welcomed by Him after death. This is not a joke or a viewpoint, it is eternal life versus eternal death. Christians do not recognise any other God or Prophet as instructed in the Bible.

    Islam got spread by the sword under the orders of Prophet Mohamed. He launched military expeditions in many regions Read about Safia.
    She was the daughter of a powerful Jewish governor in the tribe of Banu. Mohamed conquered the city (Khaybar) after harsh military battle that he was personally directing. Once the Banu tribe lost, he offered to Saffyia to convert to Islam and marry him which she did. The dark side of the story says that she agrees so she could get revenge and kill him. Anyway they didn’t have kids and Mohamad married many others.
    This gives you a direct comparison between Jesus who only spread God’s message through LOVE and sacrifice versus Mohamed who directed many military expeditions and imposed conversion to Islam
    Christians respect Jews, Muslims and the others however we don’t believe in anything related to Islam nor any other teaching
    I already told you, if Christians want to live in a la-la land where it’s all about “love”- good for them. These are their own beliefs. That doesn’t make Islam or Judaism “wrong” or “evil” because they have different approaches.

    And there are ample examples of the early peoples converting to Islam based entirely on free will, and no, the Prophet didn’t “impose” Islam on people. As the Quran says, “To you your religion, and to me mine.”
     
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    vicking747

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    I already told you, if Christians want to live in a la-la land where it’s all about “love”- good for them. These are their own beliefs. That doesn’t make Islam or Judaism “wrong” or “evil” because they have different approaches.

    And there are ample examples of the early peoples converting to Islam based entirely on free will, and no, the Prophet didn’t “impose” Islam on people. As the Quran says, “To you your religion, and to me mine.”
    Christian can have strong armies but for defensive roles only, real defensive not there to threaten anyone.
    Jews don’t believe in God that a major issue, hence they want to make the most of it on Earth. They don’t believe they would get judged and they dot believe their Messiah would ever come. When they killed Jesus, they knew He was God and they knew they were wrong but they decided that way so they could rule on Earth. Also they were expecting a God who comes with armies and show his strength, they were not expecting a God who come son a back of a donkey, humble and loving.

    There are loads of people who convert to Islam as a free will. Who am I to deny that ? But you can’t put focus on a small part and portray it as if Islam was built on Peace ! Be honest with yourself and with your own Religion. Prophet Mohamed legitimised war to expand and created the Jihad. He was a GREAT military commander and knew how to reward his troops - he created a modewhere soldiers could marry women and take the properties/ goods of cities they would win. I wish you to believe from your Heart to Islam otherwise even as a Muslim you would get badly judged if you were not really a believer. To believe you need to accept all the Coran and please read about the battles of Khobar and how he married Safya. She was the most beautiful lady in Khobar and another soldier was about to marry her. He was alerted by one of his commander and stopped immediately the union with this soldier and instead married her.
    There are many events similar to Safya or Khobar which makes Islam a Human religion, a religion with people behaving like we know and like we also do sometimes, Islam is very accessible and easy to understand. in a way I wish I was Muslim, it would make our lives on Earth easier, structured with no freedom hence no choices and a reward to Paradise by actions mechanically on certain things (for example a prayer during Ramadan is 1 million times more heard, hence you just pray more)

    Unfortunately only Jesus will take you to eternal heaven in his Kingdom after this phase on Earth ends. Jews and Muslims believe that paradise is actually on Earth and ready to do anything to live the moment and behaving as if we were God ourselves

    Jesus resurrected from the deaths and resurrected other people as well with thousands of Miracles. Even today go to Saint Charbel and you will see thousand of Muslims who secretly converted as they had miracles.
    You are lucky to be Lebanese at least you have a chance to see what other believers act and perhaps get inspired
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Christian can have strong armies but for defensive roles only, real defensive not there to threaten anyone.
    Jews don’t believe in God that a major issue, hence they want to make the most of it on Earth. They don’t believe they would get judged and they dot believe their Messiah would ever come. When they killed Jesus, they knew He was God and they knew they were wrong but they decided that way so they could rule on Earth. Also they were expecting a God who comes with armies and show his strength, they were not expecting a God who come son a back of a donkey, humble and loving.

    There are loads of people who convert to Islam as a free will. Who am I to deny that ? But you can’t put focus on a small part and portray it as if Islam was built on Peace ! Be honest with yourself and with your own Religion. Prophet Mohamed legitimised war to expand and created the Jihad. He was a GREAT military commander and knew how to reward his troops - he created a modewhere soldiers could marry women and take the properties/ goods of cities they would win. I wish you to believe from your Heart to Islam otherwise even as a Muslim you would get badly judged if you were not really a believer. To believe you need to accept all the Coran and please read about the battles of Khobar and how he married Safya. She was the most beautiful lady in Khobar and another soldier was about to marry her. He was alerted by one of his commander and stopped immediately the union with this soldier and instead married her.
    There are many events similar to Safya or Khobar which makes Islam a Human religion, a religion with people behaving like we know and like we also do sometimes, Islam is very accessible and easy to understand. in a way I wish I was Muslim, it would make our lives on Earth easier, structured with no freedom hence no choices and a reward to Paradise by actions mechanically on certain things (for example a prayer during Ramadan is 1 million times more heard, hence you just pray more)

    Unfortunately only Jesus will take you to eternal heaven in his Kingdom after this phase on Earth ends. Jews and Muslims believe that paradise is actually on Earth and ready to do anything to live the moment and behaving as if we were God ourselves

    Jesus resurrected from the deaths and resurrected other people as well with thousands of Miracles. Even today go to Saint Charbel and you will see thousand of Muslims who secretly converted as they had miracles.
    You are lucky to be Lebanese at least you have a chance to see what other believers act and perhaps get inspired
    There are some misconceptions here that would be better discussed in the Islamic thread. I will only say however that the mechanical aspect of the prayer means nothing if the heart is not activated.
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    Enough with the religious debate. Off topic posts will be deleted from now on.
     
    TayyarBeino

    TayyarBeino

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    نشر المتحدث باسم الجيش الاسرائيلي افيخاي ادرعي مقطع فيديو عن استهداف خلية عسكرية عند الحدود السورية، معلقا :"هكذا تم احباط محاولة زرع العبوات الناسفة على الحدود السورية الليلة الماضية من قبل خلية تخريبية مكونة من ٤ مخربين في منطقة تل فارس، ولقد تم القضاء على أفراد الخلية بعد ان فتحت نحوهم النيران من البر ومن الجو".

    ولفت ادرعي الى انه "حتى الان لا نعرف بشكل مؤكد هوية أفراد الخلية وعلاقتها التنظيمية حيث نعرف ان هناك عدة مجموعات تعمل في المنطقة ومنها مجموعات مرتبطة بإيران، لا نستطيع حاليا ربط هذه المحاولة بتهديدات حزب الله ولكننا لا نستبعد ذلك حتى اللحظة"، مشيرا الى انه "في هذه اللحظات تقوم القوات بتحييد المنطقة وسنتعلم تفاصيل إضافية عن العبوة الناسفة والخلية ونعتبر النظامى السوري مسؤولًا عن كل ما يحدث داخل أراضيه".

     
    latinorange

    latinorange

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    نشر المتحدث باسم الجيش الاسرائيلي افيخاي ادرعي مقطع فيديو عن استهداف خلية عسكرية عند الحدود السورية، معلقا :"هكذا تم احباط محاولة زرع العبوات الناسفة على الحدود السورية الليلة الماضية من قبل خلية تخريبية مكونة من ٤ مخربين في منطقة تل فارس، ولقد تم القضاء على أفراد الخلية بعد ان فتحت نحوهم النيران من البر ومن الجو".

    ولفت ادرعي الى انه "حتى الان لا نعرف بشكل مؤكد هوية أفراد الخلية وعلاقتها التنظيمية حيث نعرف ان هناك عدة مجموعات تعمل في المنطقة ومنها مجموعات مرتبطة بإيران، لا نستطيع حاليا ربط هذه المحاولة بتهديدات حزب الله ولكننا لا نستبعد ذلك حتى اللحظة"، مشيرا الى انه "في هذه اللحظات تقوم القوات بتحييد المنطقة وسنتعلم تفاصيل إضافية عن العبوة الناسفة والخلية ونعتبر النظامى السوري مسؤولًا عن كل ما يحدث داخل أراضيه".

    hey dude, those four guys do look like some seriously badass commandos...it's clear..the way they approach the fence, walk back and forth confused and then take a stroll in the fields in the middle of the night before getting annihilated.
    come on...the israelis are resorting more and more to good old day propaganda...vulgar and quite pathetic if you ask me...
    a few days ago they made up a whole fairy tale in our border, claimed they had spotted 3-4 commandos crossing the border and decided not to shoot :lol::lol::lol::lol:...they even claimed they had footage and would release it in the coming days...is this the footage they were about to release???? the killing of 4 poor syrian migrants trying to cross the border fence???
    You know your loosing it when you have to make up shit and can't even engineer some proof.
     
    latinorange

    latinorange

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    This report is only partly true.
    There is no standoff...Israel is working hard to hurt Lebanon hoping to turn people against HA. They rather not get messed up in a war so they are trying to divide and conquer. They are using lobbies in the west and inside partners, traitors and trolls to spread the message that Lebanon's miseries are direct result of HA's actions.
     
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    Frostbite

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    This post is an attempt to prove something that doesn’t exist. You are either really believing your own words or you are not and this would be worst as it would show doubts in your faith.

    a lot of armies, invasions and massacres were done by Christian commanders calling themselves Christians. Are they Christians ? Yes by name but they are not applying Christianity. Jesus never gave green light to invade with the sword the world. Jesus is ONLY Love. Humans have no mandate to judge or punish unlike Islam which has a whole Shariaa section. God asked us to leave judgement to Him. It would be a big sin for us to punish or judge.

    So yes the effect of these invasions were the mass conversion of people to Christianity such as in South America but this was not what Jesus wanted as it was done by massacring the locals. However the vast majority of people converted as they saw Jesus resurrecting. Read the New Testament and see how people were begging Jesus for miracles. Read about Lazarus. He died and Jesus resurrected Him in front of many people. How do you think people would convert otherwise?

    Christianity sure needs to be spread, it is the ONLY way to save Humans for them to be welcomed by God. Christianity is not a Religion, it is the only way to adhere. There should not be other religions as people who do not follow God will not be welcomed by Him after death. This is not a joke or a viewpoint, it is eternal life versus eternal death. Christians do not recognise any other God or Prophet as instructed in the Bible.

    Islam got spread by the sword under the orders of Prophet Mohamed. He launched military expeditions in many regions Read about Safia.
    She was the daughter of a powerful Jewish governor in the tribe of Banu. Mohamed conquered the city (Khaybar) after harsh military battle that he was personally directing. Once the Banu tribe lost, he offered to Saffyia to convert to Islam and marry him which she did. The dark side of the story says that she agrees so she could get revenge and kill him. Anyway they didn’t have kids and Mohamad married many others.
    This gives you a direct comparison between Jesus who only spread God’s message through LOVE and sacrifice versus Mohamed who directed many military expeditions and imposed conversion to Islam
    Christians respect Jews, Muslims and the others however we don’t believe in anything related to Islam nor any other teaching
    ooooh sword Bolonga!!! tell us how Malaysia and Philippine and Other African nations that Islam did not conquer got to be Moslems? Ya Vickings I think we should Go Ice Fishing and be friends instead of arguing.
     
    JustLeb

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    نشر المتحدث باسم الجيش الاسرائيلي افيخاي ادرعي مقطع فيديو عن استهداف خلية عسكرية عند الحدود السورية، معلقا :"هكذا تم احباط محاولة زرع العبوات الناسفة على الحدود السورية الليلة الماضية من قبل خلية تخريبية مكونة من ٤ مخربين في منطقة تل فارس، ولقد تم القضاء على أفراد الخلية بعد ان فتحت نحوهم النيران من البر ومن الجو".

    ولفت ادرعي الى انه "حتى الان لا نعرف بشكل مؤكد هوية أفراد الخلية وعلاقتها التنظيمية حيث نعرف ان هناك عدة مجموعات تعمل في المنطقة ومنها مجموعات مرتبطة بإيران، لا نستطيع حاليا ربط هذه المحاولة بتهديدات حزب الله ولكننا لا نستبعد ذلك حتى اللحظة"، مشيرا الى انه "في هذه اللحظات تقوم القوات بتحييد المنطقة وسنتعلم تفاصيل إضافية عن العبوة الناسفة والخلية ونعتبر النظامى السوري مسؤولًا عن كل ما يحدث داخل أراضيه".



    هيدي مش عملية كومندوس ، هيدي كسدورة.
    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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