Jamal Khashoggi assassinated inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul

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  • What if Saudi Arabia decides to hit back at sanctions? Is it capable of causing an economic disaster?
    I doubt they can, they live by one or two products and they are surrounded by competitors who will be only happy to fill in the void and Market once lost is very hard to gain back.

    This is that, but I also think that they will not be touched.
     

    lebnan_lilkel

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    I’m not sure. It all depends on the king. Either way, they will figure out a face saving way for him. KSA is too important to the US administration.
    They cant ..its too late. Turkey took its revenge , released too many details, has taped phone calls, body parts and its almost impossible to do a U-turn. Public pressure building up. This is how it started with Kadafi.
     

    Nonan

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    They cant ..its too late. Turkey took its revenge , released too many details, has taped phone calls, body parts and its almost impossible to do a U-turn. Public pressure building up. This is how it started with Kadafi.
    Maybe... let’s see. It all depends on how strongly MBS / his father think they control the family / country and how much they negotiate. Would it be one of MBS brothers (assuming he has some)?
     

    Nonan

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    Was LF against what Turkey did in Syria? Were they against Turkey in general? How come he gave this statement now? Isn't this an attempt to defend Saudi Arabia?
    Shou khass. Whatever his intentions are, what he said is true. He should have said that earlier, maybe. He should have been more consistent, maybe. Nevertheless, what he said is true
     

    Jorje

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    They will all find a way to bury the hatchet. No one has any interest in cornering and destabilizing KSA, certainly not for the sake of a head of a journalist. Except Iran and Syria. Erdogan will milk this for every political advantage he can get.

    And life will go on with MbS and his dad.

    Also "interesting" that Trump seemed most offended by this being a botched "operation" rather than the fact they murdered an innocent man. Maybe next time they will get a prep course from the CIA and the Mossad before embarrassing the US and Israel like that.
     
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    manifesto

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    They will all find a way to bury the hatchet. No one has any interest in cornering and destabilizing KSA, certainly not for the sake of a head of a journalist. Except Iran and Syria. Erdogan will milk this for every political advantage he can get.

    And life will go on with MbS and his dad.

    Also "interesting" that Trump seemed most offended by this being a botched "operation" rather than the fact they murdered an innocent man. Maybe next time they will get a prep course from the CIA and the Mossad before embarrassing the US and Israel like that.
    Yes, he seemed more upset that the murder didn't go as planned, not that a man was ruthlessly killed.

    This is what he said:
    "They had a very bad original concept, it was carried out poorly and the cover up was the worst in the history of cover-ups."

    Basically, he's admitting that he would have preferred if Saudis had better planned Khashoggi's murder.
     

    Aoune32!

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    It’s like a bee sting. It can, but it will most certainly be the end of the king and his son. An alternative will be quickly found.
    A bee sting?? You sure bro??
    It has the largest economy in the arab world. second largest petroleum reserves and KSA is the largest exporter of petroleum. The fifth largest natural gas reserves. Its natural reserves are worth 34.4 trillion dollars if not more. It has a GDP of 710 billion dollars.
     

    Mighty Goat

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    Yes, he seemed more upset that the murder didn't go as planned, not that a man was ruthlessly killed.

    This is what he said:
    "They had a very bad original concept, it was carried out poorly and the cover up was the worst in the history of cover-ups."

    Basically, he's admitting that he would have preferred if Saudis had better planned Khashoggi's murder.
    This American President is a disgrace to the American people and to humanity.
    Yes this is what he is saying because this is his system of values. A system that praises criminals and because of this system that the world today lives in a serious transformative point in history. It is when the world center power criminalizes justice. This phenomenon which was seen last by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy is what circulates power and decenters centers of power.
    Let him do what he is doing. He is bringing on the demise of America and he is so arrogant to see his own fault.
     

    Mighty Goat

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    The folly of the United States is that it operates from within a Marxist political theory but projects it as Christian conservative to the public.

    Why is this its folly rests on the notions of money, and progress. This false assumption of Marxism in the operation of the United States immoral system of values proposes that time has an end where one power will be superior.

    Judaism and Christianity however contradict this proposition as they make the assertion that the wicked will perish and another power will take over.

    I think that the exposure of MBS just proves the Judeo Christian assertion and not these corrupt Marxists calling themselves Christian and Jews when they are Marxists who worship 💰 💰 💰💰
     
    It can impact the economy. It happened in the 70's.

    1973 oil crisis - Wikipedia
    The nature and causes of the 1973 crisis differs fundamentally from the one at hand now. Back then, it was a retaliatory decision within the context of the worsening Arab-Israeli conflict. Today Saudi is best friends with Israel and the whole situation of Saudi, its economy, strategic sovereign wealth, geopolitics and regional dynamics, and more.. all of these do not allow the sand kingdom the privilege and viability of such a move. It will be suicidal for them first and foremost.
    Now this does not mean that they are completely out of cards. When cornered, forsaken, or even when enjoying unchecked support by the West, Saudi always makes use of its "jihadists wreaking havoc all over the place". Also, it puts to work its sabhanian bandarian ka7tanian styled-diplomacy to destabilize countries like Lebanon and Iraq.
    In my opinion, the West and Turkey should not waver their pressure on the house of Saud till Salman succumbs by removing MBS and casting him aside.
     
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