Jews don’t have to be on the apartheid side. The greatest people on earth were Jews.

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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Er, no. Rather, it was just a natural occurrence that could have been easily predicted if one were to briefly peruse the history of Jews via mankind and God. Jews act up- Jews get obliterated.

It’s been that way since they started worshipping the golden calf- some things never change. ;)
"Jews act up - Jews get obliterated"

Translation: "Jewish success leads to development of complex of inferiority and hatred toward Jews".

As to obliteration part - we exist and our enemies are not.
 
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  • NewLeb

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    "Jews act up - Jews get obliterated"

    Translation: "Jewish success leads to development of complex of inferiority and hatred toward Jews".
    This is what Jews need to think, as it saves them from having to take a long look in the mirror.

    In this life, you get what you put out. There are a plethora of examples that reflect individual Jewish “success” ruin in a flash. Names like Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, Richard Fuld- you know what I’m talking about!

    And that’s just on an individual level. Now, if we were to take that up a notch- in the Jews’ case, on a tribal level- we can see why they’ve been kicked out of 160+ nations throughout history.

    In other words, when you’re engaging in activities that aren’t in tune with how things ought to function, bad things start to happen. Whether it be practicing usury; perverting society through media influence; or propagating academic views that are totally incongruent with Divine inspiration- the Jews create their own hell.

    If you thought WWII was bad, what’s coming will make it look like a drop in the bucket. ;)
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    This is what Jews need to think, as it saves them from having to take a long look in the mirror.

    In this life, you get what you put out. There are a plethora of examples that reflect individual Jewish “success” ruin in a flash. Names like Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, Richard Fuld- you know what I’m talking about!

    And that’s just on an individual level. Now, if we were to take that up a notch- in the Jews’ case, on a tribal level- we can see why they’ve been kicked out of 160+ nations throughout history.

    In other words, when you’re engaging in activities that aren’t in tune with how things ought to function, bad things start to happen. Whether it be practicing usury; perverting society through media influence; or propagating academic views that are totally incongruent with Divine inspiration- the Jews create their own hell.

    If you thought WWII was bad, what’s coming will make it look like a drop in the bucket. ;)
    What is it with your kind - every time you have nothing to say you make dumb meaningless posts.
    There are times when silence is gold and this time for you was before this last post of yours.
     
    Leb_Rebel

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    "Jews don’t have to be on the apartheid side. The greatest people on earth were Jews."

    2 corrections:
    1. "Jews don’t have to be on the apartheid side" - Jews are not on apartheid side.
    2. "The greatest people on earth were Jews" - We still are.
    That's a very bold statement.

    Are you familiar with apartheid ?
     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    What is it with your kind - every time you have nothing to say you make dumb meaningless posts.
    There are times when silence is gold and this time for you was before this last post of yours.
    In other words, you got nothing. Now, go make me some tea (and I take honey- not sugar!).
     
    Leb_Rebel

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    Absolutely, are you?
    The ICSPCA defines the crime of apartheid as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group ... over another racial group ... and systematically oppressing them"

    In 2002 the crime of apartheid was further defined by Article 7 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as encompassing inhumane acts such as torture, murder, forcible transfer, imprisonment, or persecution of an identifiable group on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, or other grounds, "committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime"


    Does the behaviour of the state of Israel not fit those descriptions ?
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    The ICSPCA defines the crime of apartheid as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group ... over another racial group ... and systematically oppressing them"

    In 2002 the crime of apartheid was further defined by Article 7 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as encompassing inhumane acts such as torture, murder, forcible transfer, imprisonment, or persecution of an identifiable group on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, or other grounds, "committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime"


    Does the behaviour of the state of Israel not fit those descriptions ?
    From above we have established that you are very good at copy/paste.

    Now let's establish if you are any good at putting your money where your mouth is.

    Instead of asking meaningless questions "Does the behavior of the state of Israel not fit those descriptions?" show us the facts to support your theory.
     
    Leb_Rebel

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    From above we have established that you are very good at copy/paste.

    Now let's establish if you are any good at putting your money where your mouth is.

    Instead of asking meaningless questions "Does the behavior of the state of Israel not fit those descriptions?" show us the facts to support your theory.
    So busted for copying a wikipedia article.

    Here are some examples :

    - Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are governed by "military law" alongside Jewish settlers "governed by Israeli civil law", the report said.

    - Palestinian refugees and exiles are "prohibited from returning to their homes in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory" on the basis that they "constitute a 'demographic threat' and that their return would alter the demographic character of Israel".

    - Israel recognises two basic bundles of rights - one for Jewish nationals who are entitled to citizenship, housing and education subsidies, employment opportunities and one for Israeli citizens only

    - the estimated 300,000 Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem, a mostly Arab area. The report said these Palestinians “experience discrimination in access to education, health care, employment, residency and building rights.”

    - Within the West Bank, Israeli policies are forcing Palestinians to search for opportunities in Area A, or a mere 16 percent of the occupied territory, severely constraining their movement

    - Between 1967 and 1994, Israel revoked the residency rights of approximately 140,000 Palestinians in the Occupied Territory

    All of the above pales in front of the laws of jewish citizenship of 1952, because, even though they don't mention the word "jewish", they are all based on the differences between the Jews and the non-Jews (gentiles). They cover Education, laws around the Authority of lands of Israel which maintains segregation of land, religious marriages ...
     
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    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    So busted for copying a wikipedia article.

    Here are some examples :

    - Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are governed by "military law" alongside Jewish settlers "governed by Israeli civil law", the report said.

    - Palestinian refugees and exiles are "prohibited from returning to their homes in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory" on the basis that they "constitute a 'demographic threat' and that their return would alter the demographic character of Israel".

    - Israel recognises two basic bundles of rights - one for Jewish nationals who are entitled to citizenship, housing and education subsidies, employment opportunities and one for Israeli citizens only

    - the estimated 300,000 Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem, a mostly Arab area. The report said these Palestinians “experience discrimination in access to education, health care, employment, residency and building rights.”

    - Within the West Bank, Israeli policies are forcing Palestinians to search for opportunities in Area A, or a mere 16 percent of the occupied territory, severely constraining their movement

    - Between 1967 and 1994, Israel revoked the residency rights of approximately 140,000 Palestinians in the Occupied Territory

    All of the above pales in front of the laws of jewish citizenship of 1952, because, even though they don't mention the word "jewish", they are all based on the differences between the Jews and the non-Jews (gentiles). They cover Education, laws around the Authority of lands of Israel which maintains segregation of land, religious marriages ...
    "- Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are governed by "military law" alongside Jewish settlers "governed by Israeli civil law", the report said."
    Gaza Strip is governed by Hamas, West Bank is governed by PA - unless you have specific example of apartheid above does not qualify.

    "- Palestinian refugees and exiles are "prohibited from returning to their homes in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory""
    "Palestinian refugees and exiles" - exist only in very first generation of refugees and even than they need to prove that they have left under duress.
    Besides, Arabs are illegal occupiers and squatters in Jewish lands and have no right of return.
    Tell them to go to any Arab state they want.

    "- Israel recognizes two basic bundles of rights - one for Jewish nationals who are entitled to citizenship, housing and education subsidies, employment opportunities and one for Israeli citizens only"
    Please, elaborate (Israeli laws etc ...). From what I know Israeli law is the same for all Israeli citizens, Arabs, Jews, and all others.

    "- the estimated 300,000 Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem, a mostly Arab area. The report said these Palestinians “experience discrimination in access to education, health care, employment, residency and building rights.”"
    I need facts, not hearsay. Only specific example will actually show/prove case of apartheid.

    "- Within the West Bank, Israeli policies are forcing Palestinians to search for opportunities in Area A, or a mere 16 percent of the occupied territory, severely constraining their movement"
    Again, no specificity.
    However, I am willing to keep an open mind - in the past there were no separation what so ever.
    Then first Intifada has happened, then second, then terror attacks.
    So, let's not confuse consequential measures with apartheid - you cannot have your cake and eat it too.

    "- Between 1967 and 1994, Israel revoked the residency rights of approximately 140,000 Palestinians in the Occupied Territory"
    And what were the reasons for that?

    BTW, I have given to you great deal of slack by even discussing non-Israel.
    "Apartheid Israel" can apply to cases within Israel proper - do you have any?
    Relationship between mortal enemies (Israel vs. Gaza+WB) cannot be cozy, shit will always happen and so will the demagoguery such as the one you are copying.
     
    Leb_Rebel

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    "- Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are governed by "military law" alongside Jewish settlers "governed by Israeli civil law", the report said."
    Gaza Strip is governed by Hamas, West Bank is governed by PA - unless you have specific example of apartheid above does not qualify.

    "- Palestinian refugees and exiles are "prohibited from returning to their homes in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory""
    "Palestinian refugees and exiles" - exist only in very first generation of refugees and even than they need to prove that they have left under duress.
    Besides, Arabs are illegal occupiers and squatters in Jewish lands and have no right of return.
    Tell them to go to any Arab state they want.

    "- Israel recognizes two basic bundles of rights - one for Jewish nationals who are entitled to citizenship, housing and education subsidies, employment opportunities and one for Israeli citizens only"
    Please, elaborate (Israeli laws etc ...). From what I know Israeli law is the same for all Israeli citizens, Arabs, Jews, and all others.

    "- the estimated 300,000 Palestinians who live in East Jerusalem, a mostly Arab area. The report said these Palestinians “experience discrimination in access to education, health care, employment, residency and building rights.”"
    I need facts, not hearsay. Only specific example will actually show/prove case of apartheid.

    "- Within the West Bank, Israeli policies are forcing Palestinians to search for opportunities in Area A, or a mere 16 percent of the occupied territory, severely constraining their movement"
    Again, no specificity.
    However, I am willing to keep an open mind - in the past there were no separation what so ever.
    Then first Intifada has happened, then second, then terror attacks.
    So, let's not confuse consequential measures with apartheid - you cannot have your cake and eat it too.

    "- Between 1967 and 1994, Israel revoked the residency rights of approximately 140,000 Palestinians in the Occupied Territory"
    And what were the reasons for that?

    BTW, I have given to you great deal of slack by even discussing non-Israel.
    "Apartheid Israel" can apply to cases within Israel proper - do you have any?
    Relationship between mortal enemies (Israel vs. Gaza+WB) cannot be cozy, shit will always happen and so will the demagoguery such as the one you are copying.
    So you completely ignore the part about the 1952 law that exactly specifies how it discriminates between Jews and non Jews, but demand specifications. That's interesting.

    The mere fact you mention Arabs are squatters on jewish homeland shows there is no logical arguments to have with someone who uses Biblical temporality to justify more high ground in the 21st century.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    So you completely ignore the part about the 1952 law that exactly specifies how it discriminates between Jews and non Jews, but demand specifications. That's interesting.

    The mere fact you mention Arabs are squatters on jewish homeland shows there is no logical arguments to have with someone who uses Biblical temporality to justify more high ground in the 21st century.
    "1952 law" - what is it? Jurisdiction, signatories, etc ...?
     
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