Justice for Yves: shot dead and his assassin Charbel Khalil on the run (arrested)

johnnyFPM

johnnyFPM

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there should be a limitation and not ban

Alcohol is becoming very dangerous in Lebanese restaurants and clubs because half of Lebanese do not drink moderately. Every single party is having problems lately. Last wedding i attended turned into a big fight between groom family and the zaffeh dancers. we were watching a Tom and Jerry instead of a celebration, ma 3ech ma3rouf chi min chi. ....
It's off topic, but i don't think a ban would solve anything (Al Capone, anyone?) - I'm more for education...
 
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    sailormoon

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    A comment a la classical broken discs here (but in a reversed version) :

    Human life is sacred. Lebanon should save human lives and ban alcohol

    (specially that Islam considers it an evil product and I am Muslim...).
    In a multi-confessional/cultural country like Lebanon we should be free to drink alcohol or not, since you define yourself as an "agnostic" you should understand that.
    Instead of banning alcohol you should think about banning any weapon outside the state/L.A. that would be much more intelligent.
     
    Dalzi

    Dalzi

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    In a multi-confessional/cultural country like Lebanon we should be free to drink alcohol or not, since you define yourself as an "agnostic" you should understand that.
    Instead of banning alcohol you should think about banning any weapon outside the state/L.A. that would be much more intelligent.
    Weapons in good hands protect the state and alcohol in good hands toasts to that. Put either in the hands of a crook and it's recipe for disaster. The problem isn't in whether he was drinking or in him carrying a weapon, the problem is that he had the wrong upbringing and most likely stems from an ignorant family of thugs. It's all in the upbringing and education, both of which are 'rotting in the state of Lebanon". Tackle the real problems.
     
    johnnyFPM

    johnnyFPM

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    Assassinat d’Yves Nawfal : le commanditaire se serait réfugié en Syrie

    Un jeune homme sans problèmes, Yves Nawfal, 27 ans, a été lâchement assassiné de sang-froid samedi à Faraya et son ami, Saba Nader, blessé au bras, sans autre motif que la colère et la bêtise criminelle d'un autre jeune homme, Charbel Khalil, qui bénéficie visiblement d'une couverture politique.

    Dans quelles circonstances a été tendu le guet-apens dont ont été victimes Yves Nawfal et Saba Nader dans la nuit du 9 au 10 janvier à Faraya ?

    Quelques heures avant le drame, ils passaient leur soirée dans un pub connu de la région, Powder. Un groupe restreint d'amis célébrant le 27e anniversaire de Yves Nawfal.
    Alors que la soirée touchait à sa fin, une jeune fille qui se trouvait à la table voisine avec le groupe dont fait partie le dénommé Charbel Khalil entame une conversation avec l'un des amis d'Yves. À cet instant, une amie de la jeune fille se rapproche de la table en leur lançant que la fille a déjà un copain. Son interlocuteur lui répond par un commentaire moqueur, lui signifiant en substance que sa pointe était déplacée et digne d'une « schizophrène ». Ce commentaire a vite fait d'indigner la jeune fille et avec elle ses jeunes compagnons de soirée. L'un d'eux se rue alors violemment sur la table. Dans la foulée de la dispute, Yves lance un verre vers Charbel Khalil, le blessant gravement à la lèvre et lui brisant une dent.

    « Il y a eu une dispute en bonne et due forme dans la boîte de nuit », rapporte une source, qui cite une des personnes présentes. La dispute dégénère, conduisant le propriétaire du pub, Charbel Sabbagh, à intervenir. Ce dernier explique à L'OLJ que l'altercation « n'était pas aussi violente » et a vite été contenue. « Il était une heure du matin, la soirée touchait à sa fin, on avait éteint la musique et le pub ne comptait plus qu'une dizaine de personnes », précise-t-il. Bien que contenues, les tensions persistaient entre les deux groupes, émanant spécialement de Charbel Khalil, visiblement très agacé par Yves Nawfal spécialement. Voulant l'empêcher à tout prix de sortir avant la soi-disant arrivée de services de renseignements qu'il aurait dit avoir contactés, Charbel Khalil barre la voie de sortie à Yves et ses amis, y compris au propriétaire.
    « Vous ne sortirez pas d'ici vivants », leur aurait-il lancé, selon une source proche de l'une des victimes. Ce commentaire n'est évidemment pas pris à la lettre par les jeunes, qui finissent par ignorer les menaces.
    Il était déjà presque deux heures du matin lorsque le propriétaire propose finalement à ses hôtes d'emprunter la porte secondaire menant à la sortie arrière. Il les y accompagne, pressé lui aussi de rentrer chez lui.

    Une fois leur sortie réussie, les jeunes hommes font face à un nouvel obstacle : les deux artères qui s'entrecroisent au niveau du pub ont été bloquées par deux véhicules, l'un de type Infiniti FX et l'autre de type Porsche Cayenne. Les deux appartiennent à des individus qui se trouvaient à la table de Charbel Khalil.

    Guet-apens sanglant

    Des propos auraient alors été échangés entre les deux parties, aboutissant à un apparent dénouement de l'affaire. Mais une source proche de l'une des victimes, rapporte que Charbel Khalil aurait effectué à ce moment un appel téléphonique. Il aurait transmis les numéros des plaques d'immatriculation des deux voitures qui devaient transporter Saba Nader et Yves Nawfal.
    Le premier se trouvait à bord d'une Toyota Tacoma, conduite par son ami, et le second à bord d'une voiture de type Subaru, également avec un ami au volant.
    Ne prêtant aucune attention à l'appel suspect de Charbel Khalil, les deux voitures ont fini par se frayer un chemin sur une voie parallèle enneigée, avant d'emprunter la descente de Faraya. Le propriétaire aurait quitté les lieux en même temps. Le scénario d'un guet-apens sanglant ne pouvait effleurer aucun esprit.

    Près de trois kilomètres plus loin, trois hommes postés au bord de la route leur a demandé de s'arrêter. À peine le chauffeur de la Subaru a-t-il ralenti sa course, que des tirs de mitraillette ont visé le véhicule, touchant Saba Nader au bras. Le véhicule qui les suivait n'a pu redémarrer immédiatement à cause du verglas. Il a essuyé le plus gros lot de tirs. Trente-quatre cartouches auraient criblé la carrosserie, onze auraient touché Yves.

    Les tireurs auraient immédiatement pris la fuite, tandis que les deux voitures visées se dirigeaient, tant bien que mal, vers le chalet de l'un des quatre amis, situé à proximité du lieu de l'incident.

    Se rendre au chalet leur aurait semblé l'option la plus sûre. Yves était toujours conscient au moment où ses amis ont contacté la Croix-Rouge, qui l'a transporté près d'une heure plus tard à l'hôpital Saint-Georges à Ajaltoun, dans des conditions météorologiques difficiles. Après une intervention chirurgicale, son état s'était stabilisé à l'aube, rapporte Charbel Sabbagh, présent à l'hôpital. La nouvelle de son décès le lendemain a choqué le pays.

    Abrités par un parent ?

    « Il s'agit d'un crime prémédité. Les tirs ne se sont pas produits dans le feu de l'action, mais de sang-froid. Ces jeunes étaient embusqués », s'insurgent des proches de l'une des victimes. « Je me demande comment le pays a atteint ce stade où un môme se croit capable d'ordonner des liquidations, d'anéantir une vie », s'interroge un ami de Yves Nawfal.

    L'arrestation des coupables est le devoir de l'État. Elle est la seule fin acceptable à ce sinistre épisode. Mais cette assertion est loin d'être une évidence lorsque prévaut la pratique des couvertures politiques. Sauf que cette fois c'est la folie criminelle, la bêtise destructive, que le clientélisme a choisi de couvrir : le politicien en question est complice de l'impardonnable horreur. L'ancien député Farid el-Khazen est pointé du doigt par des sources interrogées, y compris sécuritaires. Il aurait des intérêts avec le père de Charbel G. Khalil, originaire de Hrajel, dans le domaine de l'exploitation des carrières. Ces sources affirment que les trois auteurs du crime (dont deux seraient Charbel Moussa Khalil et Juliano Saadé), ainsi que son commanditaire, Charbel Georges Khalil (présent à la soirée), auraient été abrités dans un premier temps par le président du conseil municipal de Faraya, Nidal Khalil, un parent.

    Les pressions suite à l'incident auraient conduit à organiser la fuite de Charbel G. Khalil vers la Syrie, où il aurait trouvé refuge, rapportent des sources sécuritaires qui citent des sources locales de Kfardebian. Les informations concernant les trois autres varient. Ils auraient fui vers le jurd de Hrajel, mais pourraient se trouver toujours au domicile d'un ami. Interrogé par L'OLJ, le porte-parole de Farid el-Khazen affirme que celui-ci « n'est concerné ni de près ni de loin par l'affaire et ne détient donc aucune information utile ». S'il a publié un communiqué appelant à « accélérer les poursuites contre les criminels de Kfardebian », ce communiqué ne serait pas un démenti, précise le porte-parole, laconique.

    « Le sourire d'Yves »...

    « Je suis comblé, maman. Je t'aime », c'est le dernier message adressé par Yves Nawfal à sa mère, quelques heures avant son assassinat. Cette phrase, il l'avait répétée de multiples fois à ses amis, surtout au cours de la dernière année. « Je suis heureux. Je ne peux demander rien de plus. Ma famille et mes amis sont là et en bonne santé », lançait-il souvent à l'une de ses proches amies, Léa. « Il répandait instantanément la bonne humeur, les rires... Son dernier message pour moi était d'ailleurs un sourire. Il m'avait envoyé une photo depuis Faraya, posant dans la neige. J'avais ri en lui écrivant que je n'arrivais pas à le discerner dans l'obscurité. Il m'avait répondu par des rires », confie-t-elle. « En le perdant, le Liban perd sa jeunesse, sa bonté intrinsèque, ses valeurs de vie... », conclut-elle.

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    Dalzi

    Dalzi

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    there should be a limitation and not ban

    Alcohol is becoming very dangerous in Lebanese restaurants and clubs because half of Lebanese do not drink moderately. Every single party is having problems lately. Last wedding i attended turned into a big fight between groom family and the zaffeh dancers. we were watching a Tom and Jerry instead of a celebration, ma 3ech ma3rouf chi min chi. ....
    We have strict limitations on alcohol which pushed a bit further would make us Iran lol You can't even drink on a beach and in parks. Selling alcohol is forbidden after 10pm in most places and alcohol shops need a licence and approval from the local community. If people complain about an alcohol shop in their neighbourhood, it's closed down. It keeps getting stricter and stricter, yet alcohol is still the number one cause of violence in Australia and the second cause of traffic accidents after fatigue. Drink driving is a big crime too.

    There has to be some guidelines and limitations, but then again it's all about the individual. If you don't put limits on your actions and are irresponsible and a trouble maker, you'll get alcohol and shoot people even if the law says you can't!
     
    johnnyFPM

    johnnyFPM

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    So according to the L'Orient le Jour article posted above (to take with precaution, as this newspaper is more of a tabloid than a true news source):
    - Farid el Khazen (ex MP, not the FPM current MP) is hiding the criminal (Farid el Khazen and the criminal's family have common business interests in the kessarat of Kesrouan)
    - The criminal is already in Syria (i fail to see how someone could prefer the hell of Syria nowadays to a few years, if not months given his connection and the corrupted system, in Roumieh)
    - Yves Naoufal, as previously stated, is a perfectly educated young man coming from a law abiding family
     
    Dalzi

    Dalzi

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    Any name(s) for the politician(s) covering khikho?

    Edit: Above; 1- Farid AlKhazen.
     
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    johnnyFPM

    johnnyFPM

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    Any name(s) for the politician(s) covering khikho?

    Edit: Above; 1- Farid AlKhazen.
    Depending on the source you read, it's either Farid al Khazen (because they have interests in kessarat) or Fares Bouez (because bye2rabo).

    In both cases, i fail to see how epsilons in Lebanese politics can harbor a criminal... Lebanon is a ridiculous country.
     
    Dalzi

    Dalzi

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    Depending on the source you read, it's either Farid al Khazen (because they have interests in kessarat) or Fares Bouez (because bye2rabo).

    In both cases, i fail to see how epsilons in Lebanese politics can harbor a criminal... Lebanon is a ridiculous country.
    So he's doing well financially and is related to a politician. That's all you need to get away with everything in jungles inhabited by intelligent beings!

    قالو يا فرعون مين فرعنك قالو ما لقيت حدا يوقفني
     
    agnostic

    agnostic

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    LOL plz stop that. Allah ydhako Eli mato.
    God create us free, we have the choice to do whatever we want in our personal life. If there is no God agnostic, you have the choice to be in bad life standard or in good one no!
    I don't agree with you. Anyway, my post that you quoted was only intended to be flagrantly demagogic to call to mind the people here who use to troll and post demagogic posts at every opportunity.
     
    agnostic

    agnostic

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    there should be a limitation and not ban

    Alcohol is becoming very dangerous in Lebanese restaurants and clubs because half of Lebanese do not drink moderately. Every single party is having problems lately. Last wedding i attended turned into a big fight between groom family and the zaffeh dancers. we were watching a Tom and Jerry instead of a celebration, ma 3ech ma3rouf chi min chi. ....
    ofc a ban solves nothing. Cyprus and Turkey will be very happy to fill the void. Anyway, it is not an easy problem. Some people can drink bottles and destroy their health but still never become aggressive. Others with a simple cup become aggressive. For sure, the Lebanese are predisposed for violence, compared to Chinese or Polish. It also depends on the mood of the moment. Seeing the mood of the forumers here nowadays, the mood is not at its best. In addition, sometimes, when a group of people drink together (ie the family of the bride and the family of the husband) and some are keeping something deep in his heart something against others, alcohol free them from their inhibition to solve the issue in an aggressive manner.
     
    agnostic

    agnostic

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    In a multi-confessional/cultural country like Lebanon we should be free to drink alcohol or not, since you define yourself as an "agnostic" you should understand that.
    Instead of banning alcohol you should think about banning any weapon outside the state/L.A. that would be much more intelligent.
    I am not agnostic anymore but a Mutanawwer, ya3ne new born Muslim who could see the light by the grace of God.

    Anyway, it has nothing to do with me but it is a universal principle that every sane and well formed brain should adhere : Life is sacred. And too many people lost their lives bcz of alcohol. You should be ashamed of your narrowed sectarian view.
     
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    Fakhr eddine 1618

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    In addition, sometimes, when a group of people drink together (ie the family of the bride and the family of the husband) and some are keeping something deep in his heart something against others, alcohol free them from their inhibition to solve the issue in an aggressive manner.
    I like this part.

    But frankly drinking heavily is becoming a serious problem in Lebanon, if we add to alcohol arms, fast cars, then it could lead to death. In addition to social issues related especially to aggression of ladies that irritate their companions and then it becomes an honnor issue. I used to live next to a hotel with a night club down and we had to wake-up 4 AM on honnor retaliation.

    For instance, my cousin starts insulting GMA every time he drinks, now i am not inviting anymore him to lunch or dinners
     
    johnnyFPM

    johnnyFPM

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    So he's doing well financially and is related to a politician. That's all you need to get away with everything in jungles inhabited by intelligent beings!

    قالو يا فرعون مين فرعنك قالو ما لقيت حدا يوقفني
    He drives a Cayenne, pictured below...

    cayenne.jpg
     
    agnostic

    agnostic

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    those who shot Yves and his friends didn't do it because they were drunk, they did it because they are criminals and animals.
    Maybe. But fact is that they were very likely drunk. And when someone is drunk he doesn't control himself very well and may do acts he normally would never do.

    PS : with the numerous pictures he has holding weapons that he posted on internet, the guy seems to have a problematic relationship with weapons. En gros, he looks like a little kid holding the weapons as toys. Letting irresponsible people hold weapons is a crime.
     
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    sailormoon

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    I am not agnostic anymore but a Mutanawwer, ya3ne new born Muslim who could see the light by the grace of God.

    Anyway, it has nothing to do with me but it is a universal principle that every sane and well formed brain should adhere : Life is sacred. And too many people lost their lives bcz of alcohol. You should be ashamed of your narrowed sectarian view.
    I don't know where you have seen "sectarianism" in my previous post... anyway, if such killings happen frequently in lebanon , that's not because the guys have drank alcohol or whatever, it's because you have people outside the state holding weapons, and if the guy has the guts to shoot it's because he knows that in the rotten Lebanese system , if you have connection or the "protection" of an influental group/politician you can get away with it, that's the real problem , shu jeb el alcohol bel 2ossa, but in this forum i ve become used to read loads of nonsense and posts that make you say shu jeb toz la mar7aba.
     
    Dalzi

    Dalzi

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    Maybe. But fact is that they were very likely drunk. And when someone is drunk he doesn't control himself very well and may do acts he normally would never do.

    PS : with the numerous pictures he has holding weapons that he posted on internet, the guy seems to have a problematic relationship with weapons. En gros, he looks like a little kid holding the weapons as toys. Letting irresponsible people hold weapons is a crime.
    All the pics we've seen here are with guns. Allow me to judge: He'd score zero on an IQ test. In another country, seeing those poses, they'd conduct tests on his mental condition before sentencing him. It looks like his brain has not developed past that of a not so very bright child in primary school. He's also arrogant and irresponsible. Heavy machinery fell into the wrong hands. w balad!
     
    agnostic

    agnostic

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    I don't know where you have seen "sectarianism" in my previous post... anyway, if such killings happen frequently in lebanon , that's not because the guys have drank alcohol or whatever, it's because you have people outside the state holding weapons, and if the guy has the guts to shoot it's because he knows that in the rotten Lebanese system , if you have connection or the "protection" of an influental group/politician you can get away with it, that's the real problem , shu jeb el alcohol bel 2ossa, but in this forum i ve become used to read loads of nonsense and posts that make you say shu jeb toz la mar7aba.
    What I wrote wasn't intended to be serious.
     
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    Dalzi

    Dalzi

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    For instance, my cousin starts insulting GMA every time he drinks, now i am not inviting anymore him to lunch or dinners
    jeye yetsammam walla ysemmak? :p

    The Lebanese nightlife is dangerous, especially for the young and good around the older-but-stupid. You come accross trouble makers the likes of Khalil and before you know it your life is over. I'd completely avoid it unless I know which places to select (classy places without garbage) and until there is a system that looks after my safety and my rights as a human being equal to all in the eyes of the law. If I had a kid or a sibling (or myself :p lol) out at night in those places I wouldn't be able to sleep.
     
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